VAN-PIT-BOS Guentz Lindholm

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Created by: LC_Colorado

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2024

Published: Mar. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Many sources are claiming Guentzel is being involved in a 3 way trade with Vancouver and Boston. They also say Vancouver is looking to move Elias Lindholm (for some reason)

Trades

PIT

Additional Details:

Vancouver may retain salary on Lindholm. Not sure though.

VAN

Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)

PIT

Lysell, Fabian
2025 1st round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

This enough? Or does more or less have to be involved?

BOS

Lindholm, Elias ($2,425,000 retained)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)
Jake Guentzel: $3,000,000 (66.67%)
Elias Lindholm: $2,425,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$83,500,000	$86,954,342	$0	$932,500	-$3,454,342

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Puustinen, Valtteri $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Harkins, Jansen $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Bemström, Emil $900,000$900,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Gruden, Jonathan $775,000$775,000 LW RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Puljujärvi, Jesse $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 2
Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Räty, Aatu $836,667$836,667 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1
		Lysell, Fabian $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5	Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Mar. 5 at 8:45 p.m.

jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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I think PIT is getting too much value, though it's definitely a quantity package.

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Mar. 5 at 8:46 p.m.

Vancity2196

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I have a gut feeling about this 3-team trade.
I don't know if it would work before Trade Deadline.

Mar. 5 at 8:47 p.m.

mv21227

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You aren’t getting that much from Vancouver unless we get the Boston package along with Guentzel

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Mar. 5 at 8:51 p.m.

Celtics21

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To be blunt, I think this is playing out where Lindholm will be available in free agency on July 1st if they do nothing and Boston’s inclusion is just to lock him down.

They probably are the best alternative for a FA center considering their talent level and their cap room.

I don’t believe you are getting Lysell and a first with that in mind. This is more an opportunistic play

Mar. 5 at 8:52 p.m.

Warpbox

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That Guentzel trade is more realistic when you remove Lindholm

Mar. 5 at 8:57 p.m.

TheAlien

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That's way too much for Guentzel. The whole point of the Canucks trading Lindholm is that they aren't trading a 1st++ for Guentzel. The Pens aren't getting multiple 1sts, Lysell, Podz, and Raty for him lmaoo

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Mar. 5 at 9:12 p.m.

KennyBoi

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I honestly don't think BOS is comfortable with moving their high prospects. To make the cap work a roster player would have to go the other way.

Mar. 5 at 9:17 p.m.

Bcarlo25

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boston isn't paying up to bail out vancouver.

Mar. 5 at 9:26 p.m.

Celtics21

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Quoting: TheAlien

My guess is it’s Lysell, Podz, and Raty. A top 75 prospect, a former top 10 pick, and a center who was viewed highly before his draft year. Maybe some extra prospects and secondary picks depending on whom the salary filler is and how much retention is needed.

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Mar. 5 at 9:47 p.m.

#10

edeangel84

JimmyPaek

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Quoting: Celtics21

That’s a steal for Vancouver.

Mar. 5 at 9:47 p.m.

#11

LuckyMoneyPuck

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Podkolzin has like no value to the penguins.

He's got 1 year left on waivers eligibility and he's clearly not playing at an NHL level right now.

You can stop adding him into trade, the penguins are never accepting that.

Mar. 5 at 9:55 p.m.

#12

Celtics21

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Quoting: edeangel84

That’s a steal for Vancouver.

It’s also probably more than a team has secured for a deadline player in a while.

Mar. 5 at 9:56 p.m.

#13

edeangel84

JimmyPaek

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Quoting: Celtics21

It’s also probably more than a team has secured for a deadline player in a while.

It’s mediocre. 3 players who are heading to bust or at best meh territory.

Mar. 5 at 10:03 p.m.

#14

Celtics21

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Edited Mar. 5 at 10:12 p.m.

Quoting: edeangel84

It’s mediocre. 3 players who are heading to bust or at best meh territory.

Lysell’s play at Providence this year isn’t pointing to that. He’s taken the turn of playing within a team game and has been very good since December. His production level at the AHL probably warrants a chance at the NHL level in Boston soon

I have not watched Abbotsford play this year, but i thought Raty looked interesting and Pods was listed around the top 75 even though he didn’t make it

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