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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 8, 2024

Published: Mar. 8, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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@KevinWeekes tweet

“As I’m working the phones, I’m told ; @NHLBruins , @NHLFlames , @LAKings , @NJDevils are all in Goalie discussions, including some potential 3 way trade scenarios, it’ll be intriguing to see where this lands by deadline time.”

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Been trying to play with what this four-way scenario could look like, and this is the best I have got. LAK were rumored to be looking for a goalie and front runners for Toffoli. BOS could sell Ullmark for a center. CGY wants a premium asset or pick. NJD needs a goalie. I am sure others could improve upon this….

CGY gives: Markstrom ($2m retained), Vladar
CGY gets: Clarke, Vanecek, LAK 1st, NJD 3rd

BOS gives: Ullmark, Grz
BOS gets: PLD, Vladar

LAK gives: PLD, Turcotte, 1st
LAK gets: Ullmark, Toffoli, Grz

NJD gives: Toffoli, Clarke, Vanecek, 3rd
NJD gets: Markstrom ($4m), Turcotte

Trades

NJD

BOS

NJD

Dubois, Pierre-Luc
Turcotte, Alex
2024 1st round pick (LAK)

LAK

Grzelcyk, Matt ($1,843,750 retained)
Toffoli, Tyler ($2,125,000 retained)
Ullmark, Linus

NJD

Markström, Jacob ($2,000,000 retained)
Vladar, Daniel

CGY

Clarke, Graeme
Vanecek, Vitek
2024 1st round pick (LAK)
2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD

BOS

Buyouts

Cory Schneider: $2,000,000
Janne Kuokkanen: $325,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Christopher Tanev: $1,125,000 (50%)
Tyler Toffoli: $2,125,000 (50%)
Tyler Toffoli: $2,125,000 (100%)
Matt Grzelcyk: $1,843,750 (50%)

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$77,567,917	$422,500	$7,032,500	$5,932,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Meier, Timo $8,800,000$8,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 7	Bratt, Jesper $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 8
Palat, Ondrej $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C UFA - 4	Mercer, Dawson $894,167$894,167 ($400,000$400K) RW, C RFA - 1
Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 1	Haula, Erik $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 3	Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Nosek, Tomas $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Bastian, Nathan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD UFA - 4	Markström, Jacob $4,000,000$4,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Siegenthaler, Jonas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD UFA - 5	Nemec, Simon $918,333$918,333 ($3,250,000$3M) RD RFA - 3	Daws, Nico $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) G RFA - 1
Bahl, Kevin $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD RFA - 2	Miller, Colin $1,850,000$1,850,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Smith, Brendan $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1		Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5
DeSimone, Nick $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1		McLeod, Michael $1,400,000$1,400,000 C RFA - 1
MacDermid, Kurtis $987,500$987,500 LD/RD, LW UFA - 1		Foote, Cal $800,000$800,000 RD RFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Tierney, Chris $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Schmid, Akira $850,833$850,833 ($0$0$0$0) ($57,500$58K) G RFA - 1

Mar. 8 at 7:06 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Pretty fast no from Calgary

Mar. 8 at 7:10 a.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Pretty fast no from Calgary

Markstrom - Clarke, 1st
Vladar - Vanecek, 3rd

Seems pretty close. How would you change it?

Mar. 8 at 7:20 a.m.

NinjaMonkeyzz

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Would be a no from Boston without retention, we haven't got the cap space for PLD

Mar. 8 at 7:23 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Sure seems like NJ wins big time

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Mar. 8 at 7:23 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: NinjaMonkeyzz

Would be a no from Boston without retention, we haven't got the cap space for PLD

Retention for 7 years? Come on

Mar. 8 at 7:23 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Markstrom - Clarke, 1st
Vladar - Vanecek, 3rd

Seems pretty close. How would you change it?

Clarke isn't worth that much and you know Holtz has been connected like a hundred times

Mar. 8 at 7:25 a.m.

NinjaMonkeyzz

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Retention for 7 years? Come on

No, possibly on vladar for 2 years.

It's $10.7m coming in, with only $8.688m going out and we've got zero cap space.

Mar. 8 at 7:28 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: NinjaMonkeyzz

No, possibly on vladar for 2 years.

It's $10.7m coming in, with only $8.688m going out and we've got zero cap space.

I mean you specifically said they couldn't afford PLD and didn't mention vladar.

Yes, retention on vladar would make sense, or moving out a contract

Mar. 8 at 7:31 a.m.

NinjaMonkeyzz

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

I mean you specifically said they couldn't afford PLD and didn't mention vladar.

Yes, retention on vladar would make sense, or moving out a contract

Yeah, my bad on that one.

Only really JDB that would be moveable, but i dont know if he would get a good enough return.

Mar. 8 at 8:03 a.m.

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villenash

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Why would BOS, or any team for that matter, trade for PLD?

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Mar. 8 at 8:11 a.m.

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Natebarrette

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Guarantee Boston wants nothing to do with lazy ass PLD

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Mar. 8 at 8:15 a.m.

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dgibb10

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@celtics21 the stuff we’ve been talking about this entire time may actually happen

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Mar. 8 at 8:32 a.m.

#13

Bruins_Guy613

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i dont see how boston does this unless they have another move to bring in a dman

Mar. 8 at 8:33 a.m.

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Clarke isn't worth that much and you know Holtz has been connected like a hundred times

Holtz in tor Clarke - and different pick maybe

Quoting: NinjaMonkeyzz

No, possibly on vladar for 2 years.

It's $10.7m coming in, with only $8.688m going out and we've got zero cap space.

Both Calgary and NJD are at max retention spots, so would either need LAK to retain Vladar….or it’s a 5-team trade (!)

Quoting: villenash

Why would BOS, or any team for that matter, trade for PLD?

Using the four teams from Weekes tweet…and the needs/wants that I believe each team has….there weren’t many other options to add a center for Boston.

Mar. 8 at 8:44 a.m.

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Lancebmx

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Very interesting. I just can't see Kings selling PLD after part of one season. Never know though.

Mar. 8 at 8:46 a.m.

#16

NHLfan10506

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Alternative

CGY gives: Markstrom (50%), Kadri
CGY gets: Holtz, Geekie, Vanecek, 2025 LAK 1st

BOS gives: Ullmark, Geekie
BOS gets: Kadri, Schmid, Kaliyev

LAK gives: Turcotte, Kaliyev, 2024 1st, 2025 1st
LAK gets: Ullmark, Toffoli (50%)

NJD gives: Toffoli (50%), Holtz, Vanecek, Schmid
NJD gets: Markstrom (50%), Turcotte

Mar. 8 at 9:47 a.m.

#17

Celtics21

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Quoting: villenash

Why would BOS, or any team for that matter, trade for PLD?

I could see Boston taking in PLD. His play has been less than expected, but so has his role

I can also see Blake going “I don’t want this contract long term”

Pierre Luc Dubois and Cam Talbott (Rittich if he exercises his NMC) for Linus Ullmark and Jake DeBrusk

There may need to be other small parts added or retention on one year contracts

I doubt both GM’s have the stones to do this deal, but there is logic to it if they do

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Mar. 8 at 9:55 a.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

PLD would be so ballsy but if any team can get him to buy in it is 100% Boston

Mar. 8 at 10:03 a.m.

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Celtics21

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Quoting: dgibb10

PLD would be so ballsy but if any team can get him to buy in it is 100% Boston

If LA were to do it, it would mean that Turcotte would take his third line center role.

Mar. 8 at 10:04 a.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

If LA were to do it, it would mean that Turcotte would take his third line center role.

That would be a good spot for Turcotte. If they don’t move out a center he’s a guy I’d be blowing up their phone with offers for as NJD.

“Cmon you know you want Brandt’s brother”

Mar. 8 at 10:12 a.m.

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Celtics21

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Quoting: dgibb10

That would be a good spot for Turcotte. If they don’t move out a center he’s a guy I’d be blowing up their phone with offers for as NJD.

“Cmon you know you want Brandt’s brother”

The three team variation i can see is

Ullmark going to Jersey.
Talbott staying in LA
Schmid going to Boston
Toffoli going to LA

My assumption is a pick going to LA (2nd or 3rd)

Blake and his goalie aversion comes to fruition

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Mar. 8 at 10:13 a.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

The three team part of it that iI can see is

Ullmark going to Jersey.
Talbott staying in LA
Schmid going to Boston
Toffoli going to LA

Blake and his goalie aversion comes to fruition

I'd expect that to be the case if anything. Apparently LAK is heavy on toffoli

Mar. 8 at 10:30 a.m.

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Celtics21

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Quoting: dgibb10

I'd expect that to be the case if anything. Apparently LAK is heavy on toffoli

Maybe. My belief is if you put Ullmark behind the defensive structure of the Kings, they would be flat out frightening to me.

People want to claim he’s a byproduct of the Boston defense. He’s improved his fundamentals 10 fold under Bob Essensa. He bails the team out as much, if not more, than the other way around

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Mar. 8 at 10:31 a.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Celtics21

Kings are stingy when it comes to goalies tho.

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Mar. 8 at 11:43 a.m.

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Celtics21

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Quoting: dgibb10

celtics21 the stuff we’ve been talking about this entire time may actually happen

Quoting: NHLfan10506

Markstrom - Clarke, 1st
Vladar - Vanecek, 3rd

Seems pretty close. How would you change it?

Good luck in your pursuit of Markstrom. It’s been a good couple of months discussing the possibility of a forward for Ullmark type deal or possibilities between Boston / NJD.

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