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Sid does not understand direction of Dubas

Created by: Wreckless
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 8, 2024
Published: Mar. 8, 2024
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If this actually happened, Sidney would have infused the most energy into this market that we have seen since the glory days.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$890,000
2$890,000
2$812,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,500,000
Trades
1.
ANA
    What do you think the cost is in terms of draft pick?
    Which pick in the 2024 first round exactly?
    1st overall? 10th overall? 15th overall? 20th overall?
    3 RFA years left until UFA.
    2.
    MTL
    1. Crosby, Sidney ($4,350,000 retained)
    2. Letang, Kris ($3,050,000 retained)
    PIT
      For whatever the return. Salary retention that the Pens won’t need during a rebuild massively ups the return.
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2024
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      Logo of the MIN
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      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the SJS
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the EDM
      Logo of the WSH
      2025
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the PIT
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the NJD
      Logo of the VAN
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the DET
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      2026
      Logo of the MTL
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      Logo of the MTL
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      24$87,700,000$85,813,750$1,022,500$3,920,000$1,886,250
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $8,500,000$8,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
      $4,350,000$4,350,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $6,500,000$6,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
      $5,750,000$5,750,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $7,875,000$7,875,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $7,850,000$7,850,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $2,900,000$2,900,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,362,500$3,362,500
      C, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,700,000$1,700,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $812,500$812,500
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $812,500$812,500
      RW, LW
      RFA
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,875,000$4,875,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
      $3,050,000$3,050,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,150,000$3,150,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $890,000$890,000
      G
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $890,000$890,000
      LD/RD
      RFA
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $875,000$875,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,400,000$1,400,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $766,667$766,667
      RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,450,000$4,450,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1

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      Mar. 8 at 4:45 p.m.
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      Core 3 are NOT being moved.
      Mar. 8 at 4:46 p.m.
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      Quoting: loganocota
      Core 3 are NOT being moved.


      Crosby’s choice. Not your’s.
      Mar. 8 at 4:46 p.m.
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      Would be crazy to see Crosby in another jersey. Maybe he'll be on a retirement tour next season.
      Mar. 8 at 4:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
      Would be crazy to see Crosby in another jersey. Maybe he'll be on a retirement tour next season.


      He’s got way more than 1 season left in him, imho.
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      Mar. 8 at 4:51 p.m.
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      Zegras has a 3 year deal that ends as an RFA my guy.

      Cost is extremely high, he’s loved in ANA by the locker room, coaches, and fans alike, and fits a desperate need as a scoring winger that has positional flexibility. I’d guess there are 3 players in this draft that Beek would even consider moving him for and that’s it. Celebrini, Lev, and Lindstrom. Even then, for the latter two I doubt he’d do it straight up, if at all
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      Mar. 8 at 5:01 p.m.
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      To begin with, the basic assumption is that Montreal's pick is 6, 7, 8 or 9. Montreal shouldn't be trading picks 1 through 5 and I can't see you dropping to 10 even if "other" teams win the two lotteries. And your esteemed colleague @Campabee has pointed out that if certain preferred prospects are still on the table at Montreal's pick, the Habs won't be trading it.

      We would want a prospect like Owen Beck or Filip Mesar or Josh Roy in addition to the pick. Justin Barron isn't quite enough.

      Much of this depends, of course, on what Zegras does when he comes back this season, and where we end up in the final selection order.
      Mar. 8 at 5:12 p.m.
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      Crosby said as recently as yesterday after the trade that he's always said it's important to him to play his whole career with the Penguins and nothings changed about that
      Mar. 9 at 5:08 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jded
      Zegras has a 3 year deal that ends as an RFA my guy.

      Cost is extremely high, he’s loved in ANA by the locker room, coaches, and fans alike, and fits a desperate need as a scoring winger that has positional flexibility. I’d guess there are 3 players in this draft that Beek would even consider moving him for and that’s it. Celebrini, Lev, and Lindstrom. Even then, for the latter two I doubt he’d do it straight up, if at all


      This summer, he’ll have two years left on his deal, plus one more RFA year. So, 3.
      Mar. 9 at 5:11 p.m.
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      Quoting: GoGuinsGo_18
      Crosby said as recently as yesterday after the trade that he's always said it's important to him to play his whole career with the Penguins and nothings changed about that


      Yep, nothing’s changed about what he’s decided to say publicly.
      And his desire to do this, is in direct conflict with his desire to have meaningful seasons at the end of his career.
      My guess is the latter wins out.
      I can’t possibly state enough what the experience would be like for him if he came here.
      He would literally transform the entire culture of our province.
      We have the young core in place to support him.
      It’s his childhood team.
      It’s the perfect fit.
      Mar. 9 at 5:25 p.m.
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      Edited Mar. 9 at 5:55 p.m.
      Quoting: Wreckless
      Yep, nothing’s changed about what he’s decided to say publicly.
      And his desire to do this, is in direct conflict with his desire to have meaningful seasons at the end of his career.
      My guess is the latter wins out.
      I can’t possibly state enough what the experience would be like for him if he came here.
      He would literally transform the entire culture of our province.
      We have the young core in place to support him.
      It’s his childhood team.
      It’s the perfect fit.


      Colorado would be before MTL. Sid has earned whatever he wants. Obviously if we were rebuilding it'd be more beneficial to the rebuild to get the absolute haul and the draft picks that Sid would bring (and for the receiving team youre selling out every single game at a 50% price increase) and if Sid wants to go then I know for a fact we would honor that. He's earned his say. If he wants to stay, stay. However, Sid has always said that it's important to him to only wear one jersey for his whole career. So idk. Outside of punditry and speculation I've never seen Sid say anything other than it's still important to him to retire a Penguin.
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      Mar. 9 at 5:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: GoGuinsGo_18
      Colorado would be before MTL. Sid has earned whatever he wants. Obviously if we were rebuilding it'd be beneficial to get the absolute haul and the draft picks that Sid would bring (and for the receiving team youre selling out every single game at a 50% price increase) and if Sid wants to go then I know for a fact we would honor that. He's earned his say. If he wants to stay, stay. However, Sid has always said that it's important to him to only wear one jersey for his whole career. So idk. Outside of punditry and speculation I've never seen Sid say anything other than it's still important to him to retire a Penguin.


      I dunno about Colorado. I mean, better team, sure. But if he wins there, vs. if brings cup number 25 to Montreal?

      Number 87 in the rafters? Oh my god…

      He definitely has had this cross his mind.

      And I fully agree. That move would instantly make Geoff Molson millions upon millions of dollars in extra ticket revenue, ad revenue, beer revenue…
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      Mar. 9 at 5:54 p.m.
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      Quoting: Wreckless
      I dunno about Colorado. I mean, better team, sure. But if he wins there, vs. if brings cup number 25 to Montreal?

      Number 87 in the rafters? Oh my god…

      He definitely has had this cross his mind.

      And I fully agree. That move would instantly make Geoff Molson millions upon millions of dollars in extra ticket revenue, ad revenue, beer revenue…


      You're right. Crosby isn't Lebron he wouldn't just choose the best team. If colorado just because his best buddy Mackinnon is there lol he's very competitive of course playing playoff hockey is important to him but he wouldn't just solely be swayed by going on the best team. Continuing to speak hypothetically bc i don't think he's going anywhere but yes Montreal would be top of the list and if he brings a cup there hed be even more immortal, itd be something to see for sure...
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      Mar. 9 at 6:17 p.m.
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      I say Sid would pick a playofff team but one that never wins or hasn’t won in a while…get them over the hump…I think Boston is the best fit…Leafs could use him…but I don’t think it’s Montreal.
      Mar. 9 at 6:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: GoGuinsGo_18
      You're right. Crosby isn't Lebron he wouldn't just choose the best team. If colorado just because his best buddy Mackinnon is there lol he's very competitive of course playing playoff hockey is important to him but he wouldn't just solely be swayed by going on the best team. Continuing to speak hypothetically bc i don't think he's going anywhere but yes Montreal would be top of the list and if he brings a cup there hed be even more immortal, itd be something to see for sure...


      Gretzky went to big market teams and couldn’t win. If Sid goes to Montreal and wins? I think he takes over GOAT status.
      Mar. 9 at 6:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: GoGuinsGo_18
      You're right. Crosby isn't Lebron he wouldn't just choose the best team. If colorado just because his best buddy Mackinnon is there lol he's very competitive of course playing playoff hockey is important to him but he wouldn't just solely be swayed by going on the best team. Continuing to speak hypothetically bc i don't think he's going anywhere but yes Montreal would be top of the list and if he brings a cup there hed be even more immortal, itd be something to see for sure...


      Pure speculation on my part also, it wouldn’t surprise me if Price’s knee could handle one more playoff run. Cap hit doesn’t count in the playoffs.
       
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