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Created by: Sabresguy1987
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 11, 2024
Published: Mar. 11, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,500,000
3$3,500,000
3$2,500,000
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4$5,500,000
4$4,500,000
2$2,500,000
1$1,250,000
1$800,000
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  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
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10th overall. shock the world. not saying it would ever happen but would be funny
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$88,500,000$85,843,848$0$3,500,000$2,656,152

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
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UFA - 6
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$855,833$855,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, LW
UFA
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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LD/RD
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LD/RD
UFA - 8
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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RFA
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 6
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RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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RD
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Mar. 11 at 5:42 p.m.
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We don't need Zegras we need gritty forward. Roy would be great but can we afford that much money in top 4 d? He's going to cost 5.75-6.25 six year minimum
Him and Demelo,Carrier about to get big paydays
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Mar. 11 at 6:03 p.m.
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Yeah go ahead and count Anaheim out of this deal

Doesn’t convince Verbeek to trade Trevor
Mar. 11 at 6:09 p.m.
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Zegras is not worth top 10 pick
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Mar. 11 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: BUFF742
We don't need Zegras we need gritty forward. Roy would be great but can we afford that much money in top 4 d? He's going to cost 5.75-6.25 six year minimum
Him and Demelo,Carrier about to get big paydays


would be fun tho lol but i do agree, post was more just fun. and you are probably right i see him getting the walker deal and i regretted it as soon as I made the post lol
Mar. 11 at 6:17 p.m.
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Yeah go ahead and count Anaheim out of this deal

Doesn’t convince Verbeek to trade Trevor


really? what are you expecting to get for him if you dont mind me asking
Mar. 11 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Czu8iks
Zegras is not worth top 10 pick


Even if he is. He's just not helping Buffalo enough
Mar. 11 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
would be fun tho lol but i do agree, post was more just fun. and you are probably right i see him getting the walker deal and i regretted it as soon as I made the post lol


We're all here hoping to improve teams with players we love but cap is a nasty thing to overindulge
Mar. 11 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Czu8iks
Zegras is not worth top 10 pick

Ignorance is always so amusing.

8th overall pick: first 94 games, 20 goals, 31 assists, 51 points, -6
Trevor Zegras: first 99 games, 26 goals, 48 assists, 74 points, -15

7th overall pick, career to date: 263 games, 62 goals, 95 assists, 157 points, -44
Trevor Zegras, career to date: 200 games, 53 goals, 93 assists, 146 points, -44 (includes 14 games this season played while injured and three shifts in his last game before breaking his ankle)

63 games is kind of the entire season to date, isn't it?
Mar. 11 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Ignorance is always so amusing.

8th overall pick: first 94 games, 20 goals, 31 assists, 51 points, -6
Trevor Zegras: first 99 games, 26 goals, 48 assists, 74 points, -15

7th overall pick, career to date: 263 games, 62 goals, 95 assists, 157 points, -44
Trevor Zegras, career to date: 200 games, 53 goals, 93 assists, 146 points, -44 (includes 14 games this season played while injured and three shifts in his last game before breaking his ankle)

63 games is kind of the entire season to date, isn't it?


He is this shiny thing, that looks great on the outside, but is not very useful.
Sabres does not need that kind of player, they have Skinner.
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Mar. 11 at 6:40 p.m.
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He is this shiny thing, that looks great on the outside, but is not very useful.
Sabres does not need that kind of player, they have Skinner.

Gee, I don't know, to me, 0.73 PPG is more useful than 0.6 PPG or 0.54 PPG, especially when the 0.6 PPG is over a sample of 263 games.

The only Sabres forwards who have a higher PPG are Alex Tuch and Tage Thompson. But maybe I'm wrong, and Dylan Cozens and Jack Quinn aren't very useful.

And before we get into a discussion about Zegras' perceived defensive shortcomings, allow me to point out that Rasmus Dahlin is -75 for his career.

(Full disclosure: it wouldn't occur to me to claim that Zegras has anywhere near the same worth as RD.)
Mar. 11 at 6:41 p.m.
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really? what are you expecting to get for him if you dont mind me asking


Honestly, from Buffalo, nothing, you guys don't draft the type of players we like with your early picks.

And if you wanted this to happen, why not just keep Mitts?
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Mar. 11 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Honestly, from Buffalo, nothing, you guys don't draft the type of players we like with your early picks.

And if you wanted this to happen, why not just keep Mitts?


Bingo. And another bingo.
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Mar. 11 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Gee, I don't know, to me, 0.73 PPG is more useful than 0.6 PPG or 0.54 PPG, especially when the 0.6 PPG is over a sample of 263 games.

The only Sabres forwards who have a higher PPG are Alex Tuch and Tage Thompson. But maybe I'm wrong, and Dylan Cozens and Jack Quinn aren't very useful.

And before we get into a discussion about Zegras' perceived defensive shortcomings, allow me to point out that Rasmus Dahlin is -75 for his career.

(Full disclosure: it wouldn't occur to me to claim that Zegras has anywhere near the same worth as RD.)


I just told you, Zegras is only about those PPG. One dimentional player who is not even putting absurd numbers to justify trading for im. Sabres have Skinner for putting 0.73 ppg and play no defense what so ever, and he is already becoming big issue when those number dropped.

Quinn and Cozens play 200 yrd hockey, both playing on PK and PP.

Sabres have one decent defensive season during Dahlins tenure, so his number must be bad.
Mar. 11 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: BUFF742
We're all here hoping to improve teams with players we love but cap is a nasty thing to overindulge


good thing they still have space?
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Mar. 11 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Czu8iks
I just told you, Zegras is only about those PPG. One dimentional player who is not even putting absurd numbers to justify trading for im. Sabres have Skinner for putting 0.73 ppg and play no defense what so ever, and he is already becoming big issue when those number dropped.

Quinn and Cozens play 200 yrd hockey, both playing on PK and PP.

Sabres have one decent defensive season during Dahlins tenure, so his number must be bad.


No, Cozens doesn't, he's just as bad defensively as Zegras, your centers not playing a strong enough 200 ft game plus a defense too focused on offense is why your goalies have so much trouble. If you threw any of Buffalos goalies behind a Vegas or Boston defense they would probably be 0.920 guys for good stretches of the season.

And again, Zegras is 22, he's got his best hockey still in front of him, unlike Skinner who's on the back 9 of his career.
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Mar. 11 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Czu8iks
I just told you, Zegras is only about those PPG. One dimentional player who is not even putting absurd numbers to justify trading for im. Sabres have Skinner for putting 0.73 ppg and play no defense what so ever, and he is already becoming big issue when those number dropped.

Quinn and Cozens play 200 yrd hockey, both playing on PK and PP.

Sabres have one decent defensive season during Dahlins tenure, so his number must be bad.

If Cozens is a 200-foot player, why is he the same -44 that Trevor Zegras is?

If Quinn plays on the power play and penalty kill, why is his total career special-team output two power-play goals this season and one short-handed assist last season?

If Dahlin's plus-minus is inflated due to the fact that Buffalo has been defensively bad for all but one season of his career, how would you characterize Anaheim's defense for Zegras' entire career? Do you think that might have something to do with your perception that Zegras is "one dimensional," i.e., bad defensively?
Mar. 11 at 8:23 p.m.
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If Cozens is a 200-foot player, why is he the same -44 that Trevor Zegras is?

If Quinn plays on the power play and penalty kill, why is his total career special-team output two power-play goals this season and one short-handed assist last season?

If Dahlin's plus-minus is inflated due to the fact that Buffalo has been defensively bad for all but one season of his career, how would you characterize Anaheim's defense for Zegras' entire career? Do you think that might have something to do with your perception that Zegras is "one dimensional," i.e., bad defensively?


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No, Cozens doesn't, he's just as bad defensively as Zegras, your centers not playing a strong enough 200 ft game plus a defense too focused on offense is why your goalies have so much trouble. If you threw any of Buffalos goalies behind a Vegas or Boston defense they would probably be 0.920 guys for good stretches of the season.

And again, Zegras is 22, he's got his best hockey still in front of him, unlike Skinner who's on the back 9 of his career.


Guys, I do realize Sabres sucks. But I also realize that Zegras is not the solution to any of Sabres problem.

And you said, Sabres are bad defensively, are commited to players bad defensively and adding anoter bad defensively player is bad move, without establishing if Zegras is worth top 10 pick
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Mar. 11 at 8:38 p.m.
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Guys, I do realize Sabres sucks. But I also realize that Zegras is not the solution to any of Sabres problem.

And you said, Sabres are bad defensively, are committed to players bad defensively and adding another defensively bad player is bad move, without establishing if Zegras is worth top 10 pick

Well, now, that's an entirely different argument, and an entirely defensible one, too -- and one with which I at least agree. And I also agree that at this stage of his career, Zegras isn't very good defensively. But there is both room and plenty of time for improvement.
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