Why would we trade for Kyrou? He's pretty useless after drafting Catton and Eiserman

No

Kyrou really not having that good of a season for a guy getting paid 8m imo...

Id prefer Parekh over Catton

Blues stink this year. After back to back 70 point years, hes bound to rebound

You’re right - he’s having a down year. He does only have 3 less points than Caufield though…

No.

So much wasted on a 9th round pick
All this to trade the 7th and 9th to SJS for a 2nd OA if im understanding this right.

I'd pass if im SJS
Unless MTL hands me a 3rd OA pick and assurances Silayev and Leshunov are off their radar they want a Demidov or someone else
Then i'd be taking a pass as both those kids are game changers for SJS in a big way and nothing MTL offered in terms of Quantity matches a 6'7 Mobile D or a NCAA Standout just below Hutsons totals last year as a Rookie who's doing big things in the NCAA right now. Both those players are future top pairing Dmen in the NHL with very different styles neither of which SJS has today.

If i'm MTL i'd be more interested in getting another 1st rounder like CGY's before they draft Tij Iginla or Catton with it as quality Forwards will fall outside the top 10 due to so many D in the top 20.
If i was to trade Barron it would be in a deal for a mid first this year maybe with another pick but deffinately not a Mesar , Maybe a Kappanen or Kidney

If MTL had lets say 7th ,12th and 27th OA picks thats potentially a number of good qualified top 5 potential players , a Iginla or Catton and a C.Hutson or A.Jiricek falling into our laps.
The later 2 later picks are in a draft with a lot of quality D and if this were last year would have ranked top 20 easily if not higher.
Cole's done everything Lane has at the same pace basically but is a playmaker more then a goal scorer like his 2 brothers. He's also set to inherit Lane's role in Boston U as he signs with MTL
So we know the system and path he'll be going as well so it makes him the his Reward at the lowest Risk.
I think Adam Jiricek is better then his brother Defensively he just pick the wrong year to be a Ghost then he got hurt so that poor showing is what he's judged on now Pre-draft.

A lot more Value for MTL in those mid to later picks right now
We get who we get top 7 as there's about 8 top 5 quality guys ranked by about 2 dozen sources with many disagreeing on which D rank top 10 making this real interesting.


This is one of those years where its #1 then everyone else but the Quality all the way through the 1st round is good because so many D are ranking 1st round this year (happens like once a decade)
A lot of Forwards who would normally go higher are falling and teams with more picks will benefit the most like 2003 draft more or less

Caufield had his spot taken though
He always shot from Ovi's Spot basically
MSL grilled him about it switching him and Slaf
He said he expects Caufield to be able to adapt and score goals in those high pressure area's if he's to evolve as a Goal Scorer.
He's not had the strides MSL was hoping for there but still doing solid as Caufields instead improved on his playmaking that early on made him popular in MTL.
That feed to Toffoli in the TML Series to put us back in the series was a pass i'll remember forever and Caufields expanding on that as he figures out how to succeed in the high pressure zones.

As MSL did this the line became one of the most productive in the NHL
Suzuki's on a Point Streak on pace for a career high and might be the first Canadian to break 80pts since Koivu and i think the 2nd to do it this millenium
Slaf's games taken big leaps forward too and im sure you're asking but how does that help Caufield?
He's staying healthy,playing smart and become a great shut down guy ask Matthews one of the hottest hands in the whole NHL and Nylander who Suzuki and Caufield covered all night.

Kyrou's got his reasoning to with all the changes since he came into the leagues in STL til now
But i doubt it was because his Coach decided he was getting to comfortable scoring goals in a place and took that option away from him like MSL did.
MSL is realizing he's in a Rebuild that nows the time to make these changes

No, the pens 1st is top 10 protected, so if they finish 9th, their 2025 1st goes to San Jose and the Habs trade for their 2024 1st

Yes

The blues will do a lot better than 2 firsts in 2025 if and when they decide to trade Kyrou.

Didn’t need the 3 paragraph excuse train about Caufield. Kyrou outscored him on total points and point per game basis the two seasons prior to this one. Blues have been a debacle this season.

Where did i say they wouldnt ?
I said it doesnt make much sense to acquire it at that cost

I disagree, i feel you did given your comment.
Maybe so in the Regular Season but Come Playoffs who's on top again Sir?
Caufield did more in 1 outing then Kyrou in 5 years in the Post Season
Have your Regular Season victories , TML fans always do the same thing
But come Playoffs what matters is who can score most , play defense the best or be the best Goalie
Which ever team can balance that the best wins the Cup

Which of the two franchises we root for has more recently won a cup?

Last time Kyrou was in the playoffs, he had 9 points (7 goals) in 12 games. The only time Caufield has been in the playoffs, he had 12 points (4 goals) in 20 games. Keep trying…

Not with Kyrou you didnt which is the context of the Statement being Discussed.
By the way Congratulations on your first every cup, i dont remember ours my Grandfather wasnt born yet
But enjoy yours, im sure we did

Yup and 9>12 clearly im wrong lol
You spun Caufield scoring 12 in 20 games into a SCF as a Negative
Trying to say Kyrou doing less and being eliminated actually makes him the better choice?
Man your Dedicated to this narrative at a level Wrestling Fans are to Kayfabe
I wanna hate it but i kinda respect it , All franchise need their die hard marks
Especially in sports

No Kyrou was not in the cup team - correct. Appreciate the congrats - I do think the Habs will be really good soon based on your young dmen.

The year Kyrou put up 9 points, Blues lost to eventual cup winning Avs. Had Kadri not injured Binnington, think Blues might have won - I know being homer saying that but he was playing unbelievable at time. Regardless Kyrou showed up. Don’t think just because Habs went farther as a team you can say Caufield is better playoff performer.

I also am one who believes the blues will eventually trade Kyrou. It would be for another legit player or players though. Not for picks 2 drafts from now like original post.

I don't get it...
They penguins aren't giving up their 2025 1st, especially not unprotected.
The sharks already have the penguins 2024 1st with top 10 protection. So the possibilities are the pick being outside the top 10 (probably by not very much), and the sharks have it. Or it is in the top 10, but 5-9 and the penguins possibly consider giving it up this year because they think they'll be worse the next year. OR the penguins are mega crap, and the sharks get their pick next year which will be unprotected.

There is zero incentive to move from a protected 2024 pick to a protected 2025 pick (cause there is a 0% chance that pick is unprotected)

If you do that you're back to chasing your tails like before Armstrong signed on as your GM
He used to make those deals to then too many saw him as the loser and he ended up Jobless.
Lucky his Son was operating on a team building Via the draft and thats how he turned the corner in his career.
Not saying he wont make those high impact trades for help
But most of the time when its trades like you're describing it situation like Buchnevich trade

I just dont see him doing a Byram/Middlestadt type deal
But ive been wrong before and ill be wrong again
I still think you'll get value though nevertheless as your GM is a crafty one

penguins don't even pick up the phone to talk to you