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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs

Mar. 28 at 7:30 a.m.
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I mean why get flamed for what's correct. People wanted Matthews and Marner to be split up anyways and Domi's a playmaking guy seems like a good trade off

And by doing so u can spread the offense with Nylander down to the third line if you so wish and make an all Swede line

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Domi
Knies-JT-Marner
Jarnkrok-Holmberg-Nylander
Dewar-Kampf-McMann


Because people get butthurt over Domi criticism for some reason, and the fact that we have to leave him with Matthews (imo) out of necessity due to his shortcomings is a criticism.
Mar. 28 at 8:07 a.m.
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Why would u put Marner on the third line and not with his former linemate in Tavares?

If your separating Matthews from Marner via Domi your not lowering Marner to the third line that would be a waste of his playmaking. You would put him with the other big center on the team JT. That way Matthews and Tavares both have a playmaker on their lines and JT takes on less of a load with Marner helping him. Willy drops to the third line to spread out the scoring threat all 3 lines.

Jarnkrok also aint a good center option his place is wing.


Because McMann-JT-Willy is already a good line, so why not have 3 threats on 3 different lines? It's not necessarily Line 1/2/3, it's just 3 really really good lines to prevent shutdown lines

And replace Jarny with Holmberg then
Mar. 28 at 8:08 a.m.
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Because people get butthurt over Domi criticism for some reason, and the fact that we have to leave him with Matthews (imo) out of necessity due to his shortcomings is a criticism.


I think they've got to keep Bert with Matthews as well for different reasons

(i.e. has had most of his success with Matthews)
Mar. 28 at 8:48 a.m.
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While it would make things weird in terms of our Dcore next season and while I will put it on the fence until I see the playoffs and what he brings

I am leaning towards bringing Edmundson back for next season on a 2 year deal in around the 2-2.4m range

This guy has brought an element to this Dcore we have not seen from anyone except for McCabe and Benoit here and there. Saturday man he targeted McDavid and gave it to him (Crosschecks, Big hits, messing with him). He has also made a nice third pair with Liligren and I have quite enjoyed it. Its almost like Muzzin has kind of come back.

Yes he cannot skate fast and this and that but if you use him as a third pair guy and PKer I think its fine.

The one issue is k u do it Dcore =

Rielly-new partner
Benoit-McCabe
Edmundson-Liligren

Does that feel improved idk as sure you can go get Roy or Demelo or Pesce but will one of those guys alone make enough of an impact.


100% agree... What are the height from the Vegas defensive core that won it: most are 6'0-6'2" range, then you have Hague at 6'6"
Mar. 28 at 2:14 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 28 at 2:43 p.m.
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Because McMann-JT-Willy is already a good line, so why not have 3 threats on 3 different lines? It's not necessarily Line 1/2/3, it's just 3 really really good lines to prevent shutdown lines

And replace Jarny with Holmberg then


That line really has not been good. Its had moments but when u look at the stats opposing teams do more dmg when they on the ice

SF 18
SA 23

CF 37
CA 53

GF 4
GA 3

A defensive playmaker is what you want to help ease the load off JT and when we look at when JT and Marner have played together results were good. For Willy and JT its always way to streaky

Nylander can score on any given line. Marner's playmaking is best suited for when there is a top center with him to utilize his passes

We saw it with Domi, Matthews, and JT at times this season. In the end it better helps the depth scoring to have Marner paired with JT and Nylander to drop down with Holmberg and Jarnkrok

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Domi
Knies-JT-Marner
Jarnkrok-Holmberg-Nylander
Dewar-Kampf-McMann
Mar. 28 at 5:07 p.m.
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Anyone else who feels that the best think that cold happen right now is to lose a few games and lock in the 1st WC.

I feel like Toronto would matchup very well against either NYR or Carolina.
Mar. 28 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
That line really has not been good. Its had moments but when u look at the stats opposing teams do more dmg when they on the ice

SF 18
SA 23

CF 37
CA 53

GF 4
GA 3

A defensive playmaker is what you want to help ease the load off JT and when we look at when JT and Marner have played together results were good. For Willy and JT its always way to streaky

Nylander can score on any given line. Marner's playmaking is best suited for when there is a top center with him to utilize his passes

We saw it with Domi, Matthews, and JT at times this season. In the end it better helps the depth scoring to have Marner paired with JT and Nylander to drop down with Holmberg and Jarnkrok

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Domi
Knies-JT-Marner
Jarnkrok-Holmberg-Nylander
Dewar-Kampf-McMann


I'd be more inclined to go with these lines solely because Willy can carry a line and Marner can't. He needs JT more than Willy does.

That being said, I'd like to see:

Bert-Matthews-Domi
McMann-JT-Marner
Knies-Holmberg- Nylander
Dewar-Kampf- Jarnkrok

I think that 4th line can eat 70%+ of your D-Zone draws even against 1st lines. And all you need them to do is start in the D zone and get a faceoff in the O-Zone or dump and change. Then let the other three lines attack.

Similar to how Tampa deploys the Paul line so that their top 6 doesn't waste minutes paying defense.
Mar. 28 at 6:56 p.m.
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McMann Season
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I dont know if its wise to have 2 pass first guys or playmakers on Matthews line. One's enough

Robertson is such an IF for playoffs it sucks but man idk if he's got enough of Keefe's trust rn for a series vs. BOS or FLA

And that third line has not been great would rather not have those 3 together.


Fair enough, I’d like for keefe to try stuff now before the playoffs though
Mar. 28 at 6:56 p.m.
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Anyone got the lineup for tonight? I’m out so won’t see much, when the lineups are out post please and thanks!
Mar. 28 at 6:58 p.m.
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Anyone got the lineup for tonight? I’m out so won’t see much, when the lineups are out post please and thanks!


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Mar. 28 at 7:16 p.m.
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McMann Season
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Thanks, much appreciated
Mar. 28 at 7:17 p.m.
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McMann Season
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Love Benoit on top pair, good for him he’s been great
Mar. 28 at 7:50 p.m.
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Its one game but Gio's making things interesting in terms of okay who u want and not want in lineup lul
Mar. 28 at 8:35 p.m.
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So happy seeing Dewar score, really impressed with him so far
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Mar. 28 at 8:53 p.m.
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Why is Liljegren out of the lineup?
Mar. 28 at 9:12 p.m.
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Why is Liljegren out of the lineup?


Entire team licks doorknobs for fun
Mar. 28 at 9:16 p.m.
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Bertuzzi waking up at the right time = perfect TDL acquisition

5 goals 1 assist in 5 games and game's still going
Mar. 28 at 9:19 p.m.
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Can Matthews score plz
Mar. 28 at 9:28 p.m.
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Entire team licks doorknobs for fun


Apparently it's an upper body injury
Mar. 28 at 9:35 p.m.
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Much better game tonight and Gio has not looked like he's missed a step.

PP still needs work but rare moment tonight where they won without any of the big 4 getting a goal

See what happens when u dont allow the first shot to go in

Anyways got BUF who will be on second half of a b2b


We criticize Keefe but his callout seems to have woken them up
Mar. 28 at 9:36 p.m.
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10 shots, 14 attempts...

Come on... I wanted to see him hit 60 vs Ovi
Mar. 28 at 10:46 p.m.
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Apparently it's an upper body injury


Close enough
Mar. 28 at 10:48 p.m.
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Leafs vs. NJ 19 turnovers

Keefe Calls them out

Leafs vs. WSH 5 turnovers

Keefe dont use bullets to often but when he does this is the best outcome of it
Mar. 28 at 11:57 p.m.
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Mindfreak lul
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Mar. 29 at 10:14 a.m.
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Leafs vs. NJ 19 turnovers

Keefe Calls them out

Leafs vs. WSH 5 turnovers

Keefe dont use bullets to often but when he does this is the best outcome of it


He should just use them after every playoff loss
 
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