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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs

Apr. 24 at 9:46 p.m.
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3 things I want this summer

1. Sign Debrusk

2. Improve this Dcore

3. New PP and PK coach
Apr. 24 at 9:46 p.m.
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Congrats JT stupid penalty # I lost count
Apr. 24 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
3 things I want this summer

1. Sign Debrusk

2. Improve this Dcore

3. New PP and PK coach


Sign Debrusk and lose Domi and/or Bert?
Apr. 24 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Sign Debrusk and lose Domi and/or Bert?


Both as at least Debrusk can kill penalties and score on the PP
Apr. 24 at 9:50 p.m.
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So I guess the game plan for Game 4 is:
Don’t take stupid penalties
Get the PP going
Hopefully Nylander is back
Hope for better refs who don’t blatantly rig the game
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Apr. 24 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Like why pay a PP coach then?

You have such a weird hate boner for Keefe


He sucks man. He can implement a decent system for the regular season and then he gets soundly out coached all the time in the playoffs.

This team has better players than Boston but are poorly coached and our goalie isn't good enough.
Apr. 24 at 9:56 p.m.
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That was one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen. Totally winnable...
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Apr. 24 at 9:56 p.m.
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He's looked better tonight. Give it up


No he didnt. Watch the game
Apr. 24 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
That was one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen. Totally winnable...


Its not close to the worst game youve seen lmao.
It was excruciatingly winnable tho and we blew it.
Yes the refs ****ed us, but we put ourselves in a spot to get ****ed by them
Apr. 24 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
That was one of the worst playoff games I've ever seen. Totally winnable...


Special team coaches need to start reading the help wanted section in the newspaper

PP aint scoring and PK aint keeping pucks out of the net

Now if I had to choose one yeet PP coach and bring in guys who better fit Chynoweth system

And while Willy would help the PP him being out should not = 1/11 with Matthews, Marner, JT, etc

Bruins have gotten PPG from Geekie, Debrusk x 3, Marchand sure EN but still counts
Apr. 24 at 10:14 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 24 at 10:27 p.m.
https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1783312972917420107?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

When u got 4 guys making double digit money this is unacceptable

PP isnt converting, PK aint stopping and now we learn 5 on 5 team in playoffs dont get yah alot lul

Oh boy
Apr. 24 at 10:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
No he didnt. Watch the game


Alright you are very much one of those guys that only see what he wants to see.
Apr. 24 at 10:53 p.m.
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Alright you are very much one of those guys that only see what he wants to see.


Marner played better.

By better I mean he stopped looking like an AHLer and instead looked like Daniel Sprong.

Still nowhere near being worth $4M/year nevermind $11M/year or the $13M/year he will ask for this summer.

His style very simply doesn't translate to the playoffs. It requires time and space that isn't available.

Go back and watch him and count how many plays died on his stick, especially on the PP.
Apr. 24 at 10:55 p.m.
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Alright you are very much one of those guys that only see what he wants to see.


No I just actually know how to intelligently watch a hockey game.

I told yall about Cowen and you didnt believe me for example
Apr. 24 at 10:58 p.m.
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Seems like they need to split up the PP and go with two units. Assuming that Nylander is NOT back I'd go with:

Tavares (bumper)
Mathews (right wall)
Domi (left wall)
Bert (net front)
Rielly (top)

Marner (left wall)
Robertson (right wall)
Jarnkrok (net front)
Lili (top)
McCabe (bumper)

If Nylander is back then I'd go with

Nylander (top)
Matthews (right wall)
Domi (left wall)
Tavares (bumper)
Bertuzzi (net front)

Marner (left wall)
Robertson (right wall)
Jarnkrok (net front)
Rielly (bumper)
Lili (top)
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Apr. 24 at 10:59 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 24 at 11:08 p.m.
Quoting: fangm
Seems like they need to split up the PP and go with two units. Assuming that Nylander is NOT back I'd go with:

Tavares (bumper)
Mathews (right wall)
Domi (left wall)
Bert (net front)
Rielly (top)

Marner (left wall)
Robertson (right wall)
Jarnkrok (net front)
Lili (top)
McCabe (bumper)

If Nylander is back then I'd go with

Nylander (top)
Matthews (right wall)
Domi (left wall)
Tavares (bumper)
Bertuzzi (net front)

Marner (left wall)
Robertson (right wall)
Jarnkrok (net front)
Rielly (bumper)
Lili (top)


Thats not gonna work at all

JT aint a bumper guy hes a net front guy thats where he does his dmg

Unit 1 of

Matthews, Marner, Willy, Bertuzzi, and Rielly ran at 50% in February

Just do that no need for galaxy brain nor a 5 forward PP lul
Apr. 24 at 11:06 p.m.
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Man sometimes Keefe just does a quote that you get but also are like dude should know better as the media just gonna eat this up

Add quote on Marchand to the list lul
Apr. 24 at 11:10 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Thats not gonna work at all

JT aint a bumper guy hes a net front guy thats where he does his dmg

Unit 1 of

Matthews, Marner, Willy, Bertuzzi, and Rielly ran at 50% in February

Just do that no need for galaxy brain nor a 5 forward PP lul


Way different going through the bottom of the league in Feb (something many don't consider when talking about how it was all clicking then) and facing an aggressive bruins PK in the playoffs.

Marner needs to be off and JT is statistically one of the best bumpers in the league. Also in Feb we had Rielly as the bumper which is just crazy. Why bother with a D if they are going to be the second deepest player in the zone.
Apr. 24 at 11:18 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 24 at 11:24 p.m.
Quoting: fangm
Way different going through the bottom of the league in Feb (something many don't consider when talking about how it was all clicking then) and facing an aggressive bruins PK in the playoffs.

Marner needs to be off and JT is statistically one of the best bumpers in the league. Also in Feb we had Rielly as the bumper which is just crazy. Why bother with a D if they are going to be the second deepest player in the zone.


0 difference who is and who isnt on the PP its not the players its the system

March PP without Marner = 9.9% Comes back goes up to 16.7% in April reg season but again not good enough for 4 guys making 10+m

JT is a net front guy not a bumper guy anymore. His work is done in front of the opponents net we see it. In his prime yes he could do it everywhere but now no

And there's a reason no team does a 5 forward PP they never work and with BOS having SH weapons lets just add those to their goals game 4

Again personnel aint the problem its the system going cold and 0 adjustment system wise to rectify it. Entry suck, setup suck, chances meh, its not working

Looks like were gonna be looking for another PP coach this summer
Apr. 24 at 11:36 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Its a question we ask every playoffs as in playoffs it always goes cold

Why u acting surprised the stats be there and we joke about em often


It’s been worse this year than years past…
Apr. 24 at 11:43 p.m.
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It’s been worse this year than years past…


Nope years past its been the same lul

BAD

This years no different as in the entire Matthews era special teams come playoffs let em down

When you have Matthews and the other big boyz PP should never be below 25%
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Apr. 24 at 11:49 p.m.
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This has 3-1 going back to Boston written all over it…

2013 vibes are going on rn
Apr. 24 at 11:50 p.m.
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Also, Sammy had a brutal 2 goals against that never should have happened

And this is the 8th time in the last 9 games where the Leafs couldn’t score more than 3 goals
Apr. 25 at 12:15 a.m.
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Edited Apr. 25 at 12:59 a.m.
Quoting: Leafsfan98
Also, Sammy had a brutal 2 goals against that never should have happened

And this is the 8th time in the last 9 games where the Leafs couldn’t score more than 3 goals


I will say of those 2 goals one of them was a pretty good shot where Marchand threaded it right past the bar and his head. That said why he left that open lul. As when you look Matthews skates by Samsonov & knocks his stick out of his hand, Domi puck watching & so late to react to Marchand all alone…


The Fredric one im going yes it was not good but also um refs 2 guys be tripping eachother center ice and play should have been dead lul. Heck could have been called earlier when Matthews got rock bottomed lul

Still was it an issue yes but was it the main one no as a 0.910 should be a win most nights

How about give Sammy some goal support

5 PP's and 0 goals and u have guys making how much on it?

But yea the thing thats making me mad is despite Matthews, Marner, JT, and others TOR a high of 3 goals in a playoff game its last 8 or 9 I believe

Unacceptable
Apr. 25 at 12:18 a.m.
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Edited Apr. 25 at 12:49 a.m.
But yea Willy being out is highlighting a big issue with this team's structure and I dont want to hear the oh if blah blah blah was out for another team

TBL won a cup without Stamkos where he played 5mins in one game scored then got hurt.

Imagine if this team had proper depth. Debrusk is outscoring TOR big boyz

3 goals 5 points in 3 games 4m

Matthews, JT and Marner combined have the same totals and the total salary between = over 30m

Not good
 
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