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3 way deal

Created by: GetTuched
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 1, 2024
Published: Apr. 1, 2024
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Description
Buffalo Acquires:
F Kirby Dach

Montreal Acquires:
F Pierre-Luc Dubois
F Martin Chromiak
F Alex Kisakov
2025 3rd (LAK)
2025 3rd (BUF)

LA Acquires:
F Jeff Skinner (MTL retains 2 mil)
Free Agent Signings
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3$1,400,000
3$3,750,000
1$2,750,000
2$1,400,000
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3$1,900,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Chromiak, Martin
  2. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Skinner, Jeff
Additional Details:
Montreal is retaining $2 mil of Skinner's contract
2.
MTL
  1. Chromiak, Martin
  2. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  3. Kisakov, Alexander
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (BUF)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (LAK)
3.
PHI
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PHI)
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2026
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Apr. 1 at 5:20 p.m.
#26
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Montreal not touching PIERRE-LUC DUBOIS with a ten-foot pole. Constant underperformer and contract are way too much....
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Apr. 1 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Burnout
Montreal definitely passes, this makes no sense for them.



We pretending that a forward whose overpaid on a long term contract with full trade protection, two depth prospects and two 3rds is a meaningful return for anyone, let alone retaining salary on Skinner for a 3 more seasons? You could replace Dach with Armia or Dvorak and Montreal would still decline.


Dubois is still more valuable than Dach alone. Even in Dubois’ worst season (this year) still produces more than Dach has in his career - Dach is all potential at this point and he continues to not live up to it.

Also dissing on a guy signed to a long term deal that’s having really the 1st bad season of his career but is still 25 is pretty bold. Considering most Montreal fans wanted to trade for him last summer.
Apr. 1 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Not even Krebs would get traded to u guys,
bc there’s nothing you would move that we’d actually want


Can’t tell if your a 90 year old, 8 year old, or AI

Either way you think an elite winger is not as good as a decent 2C (Cozens had 38 pts in 78 games D+3, Slaf had 42 in 72 D+2, not a single GM takes Cozens over Slaf)
Apr. 1 at 5:39 p.m.
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Garbage deal

Habs HARD pass
Apr. 1 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Dubois is still more valuable than Dach alone. Even in Dubois’ worst season (this year) still produces more than Dach has in his career - Dach is all potential at this point and he continues to not live up to it.

Also dissing on a guy signed to a long term deal that’s having really the 1st bad season of his career but is still 25 is pretty bold. Considering most Montreal fans wanted to trade for him last summer.


Ok, then have your your favourite team take Montreal's place in this proposal.

And Montreal fans wanted Dubois at a lower cap hit and a lesser cost than Dach. Actually, its been reported that that's the case with management too.

And its not even the worst season of his career, he was worse in 2020-2021.

The issue with Dach isn't ability, its health. But even if he can't stay healthy, he's younger, has less than half the AAV and doesn't have trade protection.

And its irrelevant what you think of relative value of players, paying over 8 mil a season to a center that's mostly offense oriented and needs to be on the PP to be effective is never a good idea.
Apr. 1 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
Can’t tell if your a 90 year old, 8 year old, or AI

Either way you think an elite winger is not as good as a decent 2C (Cozens had 38 pts in 78 games D+3, Slaf had 42 in 72 D+2, not a single GM takes Cozens over Slaf)


And on what planet is 42pts in 72games “elite”?
Habs fans are LAUGHABLE

We aren’t trading our 2C, who’s under contract for the next 6yrs at a very reasonable price, period

U guys aren’t getting him, So get over it & move on
U also aren’t getting Krebs, bc like i said, there’s nothing we’d want for him that u guys would give up
Apr. 1 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
Can’t tell if your a 90 year old, 8 year old, or AI

Either way you think an elite winger is not as good as a decent 2C (Cozens had 38 pts in 78 games D+3, Slaf had 42 in 72 D+2, not a single GM takes Cozens over Slaf)


And i can’t tell if u can read,
since the quote u responded to was talking about Krebs
NOT Slaflovsky or Cozens

Or do u just REALLY wanna argue about that???
Apr. 1 at 6:01 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
And on what planet is 42pts in 72games “elite”?
Habs fans are LAUGHABLE

We aren’t trading our 2C, who’s under contract for the next 6yrs at a very reasonable price, period

U guys aren’t getting him, So get over it & move on
U also aren’t getting Krebs, bc like i said, there’s nothing we’d want for him that u guys would give up


Y’all here this kid: he wouldn’t trade Cozens for Slaf 🤡, even worse, wouldn’t trade Krebs for Slaf.

Buddy, even Tage Thompson isn’t worth Slafkovsky, the only player that is is Rasmus

Get off LaLa land
Apr. 1 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Burnout
Ok, then have your your favourite team take Montreal's place in this proposal.

And Montreal fans wanted Dubois at a lower cap hit and a lesser cost than Dach. Actually, its been reported that that's the case with management too.

And its not even the worst season of his career, he was worse in 2020-2021.

The issue with Dach isn't ability, its health. But even if he can't stay healthy, he's younger, has less than half the AAV and doesn't have trade protection.

And its irrelevant what you think of relative value of players, paying over 8 mil a season to a center that's mostly offense oriented and needs to be on the PP to be effective is never a good idea.


How bout paying a winger almost $8M to be even more offensive oriented? - sounds like Caufield.

Dubois at his best is a 200ft power forward. He was exactly that when Columbus shut down Toronto in the bubble playoffs and Dubois went head to head with Matthews and was better. The issue with Dubois isn’t skill or his contract ($8.5M for a second line centre actually isn’t bad value), the issue his his consistency because of his attitude. Which would almost certainly be better playing for Montreal but it’s been made quite clear that he wants to play there.

Dach is also only 3 years younger. At the same age:
Dubois - 0.64ppg in 280 games
Dach - 0.46ppg in 212 games
That’s an average of 15 points more per season so yeah, Dubois is better and was better at the same age.
Apr. 1 at 6:04 p.m.
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Except you’re completely wrong about what i was saying
Here’s how things with Mitts went down:
1- he was NOT available as we were attempting to sign him
2- when he priced himself out of Buffalo with his contract demands, THINGS CHANGED
3- at that point, we decided to strengthen our top4 defense,
which made ALL the sense in the world & i have NEVER SAID we didn’t need help for our top4

So if you’re gonna come at me, at least be accurate about what you’re saying

And as far as Krebs goes, idk what u think u guys have that we’d want, but i can assure u the (typical) ideas i see from Habs fans- like Savard or Barron- just won’t cut it


Its not on me to read your mind and you never stated any of this until now.
Its on you to do better at explaining your POV's , dont put that on others . . Be Accountable
When im wrong i own it for better or worse i man up.
You are choosing not to in order to project this "im never wrong " aura of ignorance .

Say what you mean and do less trolling
You choosing not to elaborate at the time is on you, no one else.
Your trollish answers paint you into a corner of your own making ,but i digress
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Apr. 1 at 6:04 p.m.
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Y’all here this kid: he wouldn’t trade Cozens for Slaf 🤡, even worse, wouldn’t trade Krebs for Slaf.

Buddy, even Tage Thompson isn’t worth Slafkovsky, the only player that is is Rasmus

Get off LaLa land


Wtf are u talking about???
I never said we wouldn’t trade Krebs for Slavkovsky

U really can’t read
But I’ll try a THIRD TIME anyways
What i said was:
“there’s nothing we’d want for him,
THAT U GUYS WOULD GIVE UP”

Holy freaking crap
Go back to school son, you’re outta your depth
Apr. 1 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
Can’t tell if your a 90 year old, 8 year old, or AI

Either way you think an elite winger is not as good as a decent 2C (Cozens had 38 pts in 78 games D+3, Slaf had 42 in 72 D+2, not a single GM takes Cozens over Slaf)


I’m not a Habs or Sabres fan but…

Cozens > Slafkovsky

Everyday.
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Apr. 1 at 6:05 p.m.
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Its not on me to read your mind and you never stated any of this until now.
Its on you to do better at explaining your POV's , dont put that on others . . Be Accountable
When im wrong i own it for better or worse i man up.
You are choosing not to in order to project this "im never wrong " aura of ignorance .

Say what you mean and do less trolling
You choosing not to elaborate at the time is on you, no one else.
Your trollish answers paint you into a corner of your own making ,but i digress

He’s like a top 3 troll on the leafs fanbase on CF. Ignore the clown brother
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Apr. 1 at 6:06 p.m.
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Not even Krebs would get traded to u guys,
bc there’s nothing you would move that we’d actually want


Jesus Dude, you sound ridiculous
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Apr. 1 at 6:06 p.m.
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Wtf are u talking about???
I never said we wouldn’t trade Krebs for Slavkovsky

U really can’t read
But I’ll try a THIRD TIME anyways
What i said was:
“there’s nothing we’d want for him,
THAT U GUYS WOULD GIVE UP”

Holy freaking crap
Go back to school son, you’re outta your depth


The funniest thing is that he thinks Slafkovsky is worth Dahlin
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Apr. 1 at 6:07 p.m.
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you never stated any of this until now.


NOT TRUE

And I’m not gonna keep doing this nonsense
1- u guys aren’t getting Cozens- ZERO CHANCE
2- U don’t have anything we’d want for Krebs that you’d actually part with


Sorry, but just move right along
We aren’t trading u our good young talent
And we don’t want your trash
Apr. 1 at 6:08 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Wtf are u talking about???
I never said we wouldn’t trade Krebs for Slavkovsky

U really can’t read
But I’ll try a THIRD TIME anyways
What i said was:
“there’s nothing we’d want for him,
THAT U GUYS WOULD GIVE UP”

Holy freaking crap
Go back to school son, you’re outta your depth


Lets be real here, that is exactly what you think.


You gotta understand, it’s important to troll a troll sometimes, just doing my duty
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Apr. 1 at 6:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
The funniest thing is that he thinks Slafkovsky is worth Dahlin


You also think Max Domi is worth more than Suzuki. At least im closer to reality
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Apr. 1 at 6:10 p.m.
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Jesus Dude, you sound ridiculous


What EXACTLY would the Sabres want from MTL,
that they’d be WILLING TO GIVE UP,
for Krebs???


I can’t wait to hear this
Apr. 1 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
How bout paying a winger almost $8M to be even more offensive oriented? - sounds like Caufield.

Dubois at his best is a 200ft power forward. He was exactly that when Columbus shut down Toronto in the bubble playoffs and Dubois went head to head with Matthews and was better. The issue with Dubois isn’t skill or his contract ($8.5M for a second line centre actually isn’t bad value), the issue his his consistency because of his attitude. Which would almost certainly be better playing for Montreal but it’s been made quite clear that he wants to play there.

Dach is also only 3 years younger. At the same age:
Dubois - 0.64ppg in 280 games
Dach - 0.46ppg in 212 games
That’s an average of 15 points more per season so yeah, Dubois is better and was better at the same age.


First of all, Caufield isn't offensively oriented, he's been a plus defensive player for like 90 games now. Dubois also hasn't played a 200 ft game since he stopped playing for Torts.

As for Dach vs. Dubois, Dubois is not twice as good as Dach and I'm not going to bet on him being good into his 30s (because players with attitude issues almost always fall off early and he's not worth what he's being paid now). The whole point is that you can assume that Dach has zero value and the trade still doesn't make sense for Montreal.
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Apr. 1 at 6:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
How bout paying a winger almost $8M to be even more offensive oriented? - sounds like Caufield.

Dubois at his best is a 200ft power forward. He was exactly that when Columbus shut down Toronto in the bubble playoffs and Dubois went head to head with Matthews and was better. The issue with Dubois isn’t skill or his contract ($8.5M for a second line centre actually isn’t bad value), the issue his his consistency because of his attitude. Which would almost certainly be better playing for Montreal but it’s been made quite clear that he wants to play there.

Dach is also only 3 years younger. At the same age:
Dubois - 0.64ppg in 280 games
Dach - 0.46ppg in 212 games
That’s an average of 15 points more per season so yeah, Dubois is better and was better at the same age.


We pass and how good Dubois used to be isnt our concern
If Dubois wanted to be in MTL he would be .
He coulda been a UFA after this season and do what he declared he was going to do for years in test Free agency
He chose to sign with Bergavin and Blake instead

Like with Perron we've moved on there's better french players and we wont be someone stocking horse 3 times.
Right now if we're gonna overpay for anyone its Josh Roy's Rooomate Alex Lafreniere , its easier to justify even if harder to accomplish
PLD burned that bridge with Hughes i believe ,but ive been wrong before
Apr. 1 at 6:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
Lets be real here, that is exactly what you think.


You gotta understand, it’s important to troll a troll sometimes, just doing my duty


No, it’s not not
And u just went from clueless to the ignored list
Have a great day
Apr. 1 at 6:12 p.m.
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No, it’s not not
And u just went from clueless to the ignored list
Have a great day, take your meds


Big W!
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Apr. 1 at 6:12 p.m.
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You also think Max Domi is worth more than Suzuki. At least im closer to reality


Uh, can you read? I never mentioned Domi. Anywhere. He was never brought up.

& no. You’re not closer to reality. A guy with 51 career points and a career ppg of 0.45 a year and a half after being drafted is not worth a legit #1 defenceman. You’re not in any reality at all there. Unless it’s Montreal’s fantasy land.
Apr. 1 at 6:13 p.m.
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First of all, Caufield isn't offensively oriented, he's been a plus defensive player for like 90 games now. Dubois also hasn't played a 200 ft game since he stopped playing for Torts.

As for Dach vs. Dubois, Dubois is not twice as good as Dach and I'm not going to bet on him being good into his 30s (because players with attitude issues almost always fall off early and he's not worth what he's being paid now). The whole point is that you can assume that Dach has zero value and the trade still doesn't make sense for Montreal.


Lol. Caufield is a mess defensively.
 
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