Edited Apr. 16 at 10:25 a.m.
Quoting: Garak
I appreciate the more concise and level headed response than the other guy.
But, you would have to go back to 2016 to find a trade similar to this. Which was Freddy Andersen, who had been just as good, if not better, to TOR for a late 1st and a late 2nd. That was considered an absolute haul at the time. Then Lehner + David Legwand went for a late-ish 1st round pick in 2015, but Legwand was the main piece of that trade. Ryan Miller got a pretty nice return, but he was also packaged with Steve Ott who was a valuable role player with scoring ability at the time.
So, essentially, any trades that were as valuable or "better", included other pieces and/or were comparable goalies in similar situations. And that was a long time ago, too. So, I'm sure the market has changed to some degree. But I had to sift through a million goalie trades just to see anything comparable. There were lots of pretty good goalies that went for next to nothing through the years, though, and none were really better than what this proposal offers. Goalies just don't tend to go for crazy amounts, and those that may or may not be worth a crazy amount are rarely traded. Teams tend to hang onto the younger ones and only move them when they are predicted to be on their way out, in their mid 30's generally.
We got a 1st and Kuraly for Martin Jones RFA rights the last time we traded a goalie of value.
Tomas Vokoun got a 1st, 2nd conditional 2nd.
Corey Schnieder got the 9th overall pick.
The last significant goalie traded was Kuemper who got a 1st/Timmins conditional pick as a pure rental.
Just a few examples.
Considering Swayman’s age and play i’d expect more than late 1st late 2nd. It is not worth trading him if they don’t get more and they have no need to move him.
Would be different if they had to move him.
If he received an offer sheet in range of his expected next contract the compensation would be 1st/2nd/3rd. Boston would match and not take the compensation. If they would not take that they are not taking a similar value trade. It would take an OS the next step up. 8.5+ with compensation of 2 1sts, 2nd, 3rd for them to not match.
I expect if they trade Swayman it is going to take a good young player under 25 coming back. Not necessarily 1 for 1. Likely a package of some sort. Mercer or Zegras come to mind quickly. Or it will take a pick in the upper half of the 1st and second piece. If not there is no interest in moving him.
I agree with the notion Chicago is not likely the team. Commesso there and fits the timeline. But if they decided to mitigate the risk. Oliver Moore or Frank Nazar would be the primary piece for Boston. Anything less Boston walks away,