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Draft day

Created by: aldore
Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 15, 2024
Published: Apr. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Pick #16. That first wave of good defensemen is gone and we’re early for the second. Realistically could pick here but I want a defensemen(or a few) in one of those groups. Or both!
I know Buffalo is gonna say overpay and no and so are other blues fans so this is what would make me happy.
Trades
1.
STL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
10th, Draft Zeev Buium, Carter Yakemchuck, or any of that first wave of D men that will be gone by our pick but will be available at 10OA
NJD
  1. 2024 1st round pick (STL)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
16th, 56th, 96th
2.
STL
PIT
    Do that, or
    3.
    STL
    1. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (ANA)
    Additional Details:
    25th and 35th
    Draft 3 of Leo Sahlin Wallenius, Henry Mews, Charlie Elick, Alfons Freji, Dominik Badinka, EJ Emery with these two and our second
    ANA
      Blues 1st- 16th OA
      Rags 3rd - 96th OA
      4.
      STL
      PIT
        Or draft Jiricek at 16
        5.
        STL
        1. Kulich, Jiri
        2. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
        Additional Details:
        Or do this trade and then use our pick to trade back and do both!
        BUF
        1. Buchnevich, Pavel ($2,900,000 retained)
        2. 2024 3rd round pick (STL)
        3. 2024 4th round pick (STL)
        Retained Salary Transactions
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2024
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        Logo of the BUF
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the ANA
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        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the NYI
        2025
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the STL
        2026
        Logo of the STL
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        20$83,500,000$72,591,428$0$412,500$10,908,572
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $8,125,000$8,125,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $8,125,000$8,125,000
        RW
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        LW, RW
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        C, LW
        NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $1,250,000$1,250,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $3,571,429$3,571,429
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
        LW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $852,500$852,500
        C
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $835,833$835,833
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
        $918,333$918,333
        C, LW
        RFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $775,000$775,000
        LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $775,000$775,000
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $800,000$800,000
        RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the St. Louis Blues
        $800,000$800,000
        LD/RD
        RFA - 1

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        Apr. 16 at 11:28 p.m.
        #1
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        I've been hoping the Flames draft badinka with their 2nd mostly because his names fun to say lol
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        Apr. 16 at 11:28 p.m.
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        all for that buchnevich trade but i just cant see him waiving and signing an extension, and they cant give up kulich and 11th for a guy who will walk in a year.
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        Apr. 16 at 11:30 p.m.
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        aldore
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        Quoting: Stadel
        all for that buchnevich trade but i just cant see him waiving and signing an extension, and they cant give up kulich and 11th for a guy who will walk in a year.


        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams
        Apr. 16 at 11:30 p.m.
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        Of all these options, #1 and #4 seem both most feasible and most appetizing. #5 seems super optimistic and trading down is not really appealing. I think I'd rather trade the pick for a young vet D who fits the mold than trade down.

        I mean, if you could promise we'd definitely get Freij and Skahan, I'd say okay. But that's impossible to promise.
        Apr. 16 at 11:31 p.m.
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        Quoting: aldore
        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams


        ehhh, id love it if he believed that, but its a reach lol. 12 team no trade i assume will wipe out that small markets. At this point hes probably angling for a team that can lock him in for 8 years and give him his salary mostly in signing bonuses. I dont mind an 8 year risk, but ownership isnt going to pay him in bonuses unfortunately.
        Apr. 16 at 11:51 p.m.
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        Can't see the devils trading away a pick that would be a LHD like Buium when LHD is their biggest need long term besides goalie
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        Apr. 17 at 12:12 a.m.
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        All of these draft scenarios have little chance of occurring by definition, since there are an almost limitless number of permutations and combinations, including but not limited to who's on the board where. Here's one that strikes me is a little closer to reality than New Jersey giving up #10:

        Carter Yakemchuk is rated the 11th overall North American prospect. Suppose 9 of the 10 youngsters rated ahead of him (and note that Carter Eiserman is rated #12), and four of the 6 top-rated European prospects are selected. There sits San Jose with their second pick in the first round. I think it would be a lot easier to persuade the Sharks to move back a couple of places than the Devils. And if Pittsburgh's pick turns out to be #13 instead of #14, it shouldn't take much more to convince them. (The Toronto second should be enough in either case.)
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        Apr. 17 at 2:18 a.m.
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        Quoting: aldore
        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams


        Even if (and that’s a big IF) Buchnevich was:
        1- willing to come here
        and
        2- willing to sign a long term extension

        Idk that the Sabres are even looking to add a bacon tract like that??
        I’d say it’s likely that we are not


        It just seems like a very unlikely deal to happen in real life
        Apr. 17 at 3:52 a.m.
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        Edited Apr. 17 at 10:42 a.m.
        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        All of these draft scenarios have little chance of occurring by definition, since there are an almost limitless number of permutations and combinations, including but not limited to who's on the board where. Here's one that strikes me is a little closer to reality than New Jersey giving up #10:

        Carter Yakemchuk is rated the 11th overall North American prospect. Suppose 9 of the 10 youngsters rated ahead of him (and note that Carter Eiserman is rated #12), and four of the 6 top-rated European prospects are selected. There sits San Jose with their second pick in the first round. I think it would be a lot easier to persuade the Sharks to move back a couple of places than the Devils. And if Pittsburgh's pick turns out to be #13 instead of #14, it shouldn't take much more to convince them. (The Toronto second should be enough in either case.)


        For starters, I dont go by Central Scouting. They always have a few kooky things going on. More to the actual point, I don't think Yakemchuk falling to #14 is realistic. Buffalo grabbing him feels like the absolute latest. Also, a 2nd is kinda steep for two mid-round places, no?

        But above all that, I don't think Yakemchuk is what they're after. And if they think they can get Jiricek at 16 without giving anything up, I'm guessing he's their designated RD consolation prize choice.

        What they are almost certainly after is Dickinson or Buium or Silayev. I think. Fairly sure.

        I would only select Parekh to trade him for a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit haul.

        But above all that jibber jabber, I think this summer is unusually ripe for trading up. After the first 5-6, it drops to a level where there's very little difference between #7 or 8 and about #14 or 15 or 16. And while this draft class is quite heavy with strong D prospects, a bunch of the lottery teams are already pretty deep to holy crap theyre loaded deep with young Dmen.

        It's kinduva perfect trade up for a Dman storm.
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        Apr. 17 at 7:17 a.m.
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        We would want to move up further than 16OA

        Anyways 25 & 35 get us higher than 16 value wise
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        Apr. 17 at 9:32 a.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        We would want to move up further than 16OA

        Anyways 25 & 35 get us higher than 16 value wise


        Yeah, maybe to 15. According to Puckpedia, that 16 for 25 and 35 is actually pretty much spot on. And that 3rd coming to your way just makes it better for you.

        Not saying they are the Holy Bible of these things, but nice tool to check these kind of things.
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        Apr. 17 at 2:45 p.m.
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        I'm all for trading up, but if we are going to trade Buch, I hope we get a better return than that.
         
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