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OTT would be much more interested in Konecny than Laughton

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Apr. 18 at 2:27 p.m.

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I don't hate that deal as a Sabres fan. I don't think Kulich would be the prospect Philly would be interested in though.

Apr. 18 at 2:27 p.m.

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Sens should steer well clear of Laughton

Thought they could use some veteran presence, but I totally get it if they would rather look elsewhere.

Apr. 18 at 2:28 p.m.

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Kings have zero interest in Johansen. Kopi PLD Danault Lizzote are all better than Johansen so he fits literally nowhere in our lineup.

Apr. 18 at 2:30 p.m.

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Thought they could use some veteran presence, but I totally get it if they would rather look elsewhere.

Yes, nothing against Laughton at all but the fit wouldnt be great. Konecny only the other hand would a perfect addition for the Sens.

Apr. 18 at 2:31 p.m.

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OTT would be much more interested in Konecny than Laughton

I don't think Ottawa has the right pieces to make a Konecny trade happen, unless they are willing to trade their 1st which I doubt they will part ways with.

Apr. 18 at 2:34 p.m.

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There’s no way that’s all TK gets I mean come on it’s not even their 1st rounder this year?

Apr. 18 at 2:34 p.m.

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I don't hate that deal as a Sabres fan. I don't think Kulich would be the prospect Philly would be interested in though.

Kulich seems like a pretty good fit for them since he is listed as a center/left wing in here which are positions Flyers could use some help in on their forward core. Savoie is another Player which they could be interested in since he is a center.

Apr. 18 at 2:35 p.m.

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I don't think Ottawa has the right pieces to make a Konecny trade happen, unless they are willing to trade their 1st which I doubt they will part ways with.

what kind of return you expecting in a Konecny trade from a team?

Apr. 18 at 2:43 p.m.

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Thought they could use some veteran presence, but I totally get it if they would rather look elsewhere.

They need vets who have some idea of how to defend

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Apr. 18 at 2:43 p.m.

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You’re not getting that for rental TK.
Lotto protected 1 and a B prospect and a late pick

Apr. 18 at 2:43 p.m.

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what kind of return you expecting in a Konecny trade from a team?

I would want a 1st and a center prospect as a base if they are trading him. Ottawa doesn't have valuable center prospects other than Ostapchuk who I'm not that high on. Unless they are willing to part ways with their 1st I don't see them tradign him to Ottawa.

Apr. 18 at 2:46 p.m.

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Greig who is a C/LW, Boston 1st and OTT 2nd this year (39th i believe)

Apr. 18 at 2:51 p.m.

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There’s no way that’s all TK gets I mean come on it’s not even their 1st rounder this year?

I don't see them trading their this years 1st and Kulich. To me that seems like a reasonable return for unretained TK. He could get more, but I wouldn't be upset over that return since I'm kinda high on Kulich and he fits what they need. Add retention to that and you could raise the price more.

Apr. 18 at 2:54 p.m.

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Greig who is a C/LW, Boston 1st and OTT 2nd this year (39th i believe)

Would Ottawa really be willing to part ways with Greig? I would assume Greig would just be off the table in trade conversations. If they are willing to part ways with him for TK then there would be a better fit.

Apr. 18 at 3:01 p.m.

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Would do this deal for TK but Sabres won’t touch this. Kulich on an elc is way more desirable for ownership than paying konecny.

Apr. 18 at 3:04 p.m.

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He could get more but I’ll sell him for less anyway is certainly a choice for ur biggest asset at the start of a rebuild that’s all I’m saying lol it doesn’t make sense

Apr. 18 at 3:04 p.m.

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you need to give to get, Konecny would need to agree to a reasonable extension of course but i would be willing to add Greig in a TK deal. TK would help OTT more now to make the playoff than Greig and Greig is young enough for P{hilly rebuild.

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Except :
1- Sabres unlikely to move Kulich
2- we don’t “need” retention
3- we probably aren’t even looking to bring in a player like Konecny (someone who’ll need a big contract)

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Apr. 18 at 3:11 p.m.

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I would've thought Greig was almost untouchable with the way the Sens fanbase has liked him so far, but this seems reasonable to me. The toughest part then would be to get him signed to a reasonable extension.

Apr. 18 at 3:18 p.m.

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He could get more but I’ll sell him for less anyway is certainly a choice for ur biggest asset at the start of a rebuild that’s all I’m saying lol it doesn’t make sense

I could definitely see him getting more than that. Now I'm interested in hearing how much you think he should be getting in a return, since you value him higher than me.

Apr. 18 at 3:25 p.m.

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I could definitely see him getting more than that. Now I'm interested in hearing how much you think he should be getting in a return, since you value him higher than me.

If Briere doesn’t get more value for TK than DeBrincat got it’s a failure. ADB got 7OA, 39OA, and a 3rd. TK is cheaper and frankly better. I don’t see Kulich being that special and he was taken 28th. Buffalo’s pick next year is gonna be anywhere from 12-20 probably so even at best it’s 12OA and 28OA (equivalent). 7th is extremely more valuable in every draft than 12th and that would be assuming best case scenario. There at minimum needs to be another early 2nd, late 1st, or another solid solid prospect in this trade to make it worth it. Briere himself wanted two 1sts and two solid prospects last summer and TK had a career year, so his ask for Tk isn’t going to be cut in half like you have it here. Now I know they aren’t going to get 4 great pieces for TK but they should be getting at least 3 good pieces then.

Apr. 18 at 3:51 p.m.

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ABD was also 24 at the time and already had two 40 goal seasons under his belt and was a RFA, so part of his value was because there was room for improvement and the controllability with his contract. Konecny will be a UFA in 1 year and has reached his prime which will lower his value in this case compared to ABD. That trade has also pretty much set the market price for wingers. I doubt a team is willing to even give up 3 good pieces now that Konecny has only 1 year left and has reached his prime. Maybe a team is willing to give a pretty high pick for Konecny but I wouldn't expect them to give too much more on top of that depending on the pick. One of the big value drivers last summer was TK's cheap contract that a team could get for 2 years and now there's only 1 year left on it.

Apr. 18 at 4:01 p.m.

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