Or Detroit keeps their 1st and buys out Holl.

So your idea is to keep Nazar in the NHL, but then play him on the 4th line w/ two guys far less skilled than Nazar is? That makes no sense. AA at 2c really isn't a solution either. Also doubt the Hawks are giving any UFA a 4 year deal.

And Detroit declines that deal easily.

Why would Detroit do that? Dumping a 1M buyout and someone who is LTIR 24/7/365 would not cost moving back from 15 to 34.

They've only got ~$29 mil to bring back Seider, Raymond, Kane, Veleno. Plus they need to fix up their defense, and their goaltending isn't really good either.



Chicago's rolling four bottom six caliber lines so I don't think it matters much if he's 4RW on paper. Sure he could be deployed with better linemates even though Guttman & Donato are relatively similar skill wise to his two most common linemates Richardson has played him with so far this year. Athanasiou's just a 2C on paper, he's just there since because of Reichel.

What does "2C on paper" mean exactly? Who is taking faceoffs on that line? Who is providing 3rd man back support in the D zone? Why wouldn't you put Dixkinson (or Nazar) an actual center on the 2nd line and use Guttman (or Nazar) another actual center on the 3rd line?

Sorry, but Nazar is already FAR MORE skilled than Guttman or Donato. If that's Nazar's spot in the grand plan, the Hawks send him to Rockford to play top line minutes with a couple of his future teammates. Let Carrier or Puustinen play those 12 minutes a night on the 4th line.

Very not worth it for Detroit. Holl's buyout isn't bad and Husso will be given another chance to rebound. We could get that cap space for a whole lot less cost.

Oh yeah I'm sure the $1.1 mil Holl buyout will cripple Detroit into folding. 🤔

Instead let's trade the 15th overall draft pick to make Holl disappear. 🤭

Yzerman couldn't possibly trade Fabbri or Maatta for cap space.

Impossible!

Wings pass, not even close

AA can take faceoffs, Rielly Smith's a reliable on the defensive side of the puck. The reason why I put Dickinson below Athanasiou is while even though he's a better forward than AA that 17-16-15 line ended up being one of our better line combinations this season. But if having a traditional C is that important then Dickinson or Donato can slot in inbetween Reichel and Smith.

As for Nazar, Richardson got him for two games and ended up playing him primarily with the likes of Joey Anderson & Landon Slaggert. The general quality of this forward group is pretty low so Nazar's gonna end up playing 13-15 minutes a night either way. He can play alongside Dickinson, or even top line wing as the year goes on, I don't mind starting him out with the likes of Guttman & Donato at 5v5 while giving him PP1 looks.

Yeah sure Detroit is giving up their 15OA pick to move Justin Holls contract, Sorry people on here need to use some common sense.

while everyone else squabbles over that detroit trade... that pens trade is... not great. you can choose to believe kyle dubas or not, but the fact is that he stated there was more interest in reilly smith than there was interest in other forwards he was shopping that werent named jake guentzel. interest may not imply offer, but again, those were his words. reilly has value and is capable of more, perhaps on a team that can counter attack and run effective transition offense, which the penguins were really, really bad at last season. that and i think like 20% retention would be fine and fair because they can probably replace him with a player with better dollar for dollar value at 4 mil or less.

tl;dr reilly is still a good player that didnt fit, someone will take him at a reasonable cost, reilly + 3rd for a lottery ticket is not reasonable cost

I love how CHI fans think teams are going to pay them for their useful players.

The picks going the other way.
At worse the Penguins will flip Smith at TDL if they aren't in the hunt next year.