GM Game 2017-2018: Montreal Canadiens

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Created by: ricochetii

Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017

Published: Sep. 15, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Win now mode.

Status: Looking for depth improvements and futures.
I'm listening to anything, but main roster is pretty much set, so offer accordingly.

---------- Available -----------
Schlemko - 3rd/4th or equivalent prospect
Morrow - 6th/7th round prospect, prefer RW/RHD

Offers should include futures without having a negative impact on my roster. (ie: if you want Benn I'd expect a RHD that helps me now as well as a pick or a prospect).
If prices are high it is because I have no NEED to move anyone.

Players currently in the minors are negotiable (view Capfriendly team list: https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canadiens)

------------ Wants -------------
- Missing picks
- The last 5 years back

----------- Directives ------------
- Build a contender
- Manage cap
- Restock picks

** Ignore lines and roster set up. I'll be playing with it a lot. **

----- Player Rights -------
F: Naatinen Pezzetta Cates Vejdemo Ikonen Trunev Friberg
D: Koberstein Staum Henrikson Tyszka Walford Fleury Brook
G: Hawkey

----- Notes -----
I own the 2nd (WSH - 2018) from the conditional picks in the Drouin/Sergachev trade.

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Niemi, Antti		1	$700,000

Trades

MTL

If Sergachev plays less than 40 NHL games. Revert this trade.
If he plays 40 or more NHL games, acquire 2nd (WSH - 2018) back from Tampa.

TBL

2018 6th round pick (TBL)

MTL

Tanev, Brandon

Additional Details:

September 19th

WPG

Davidson, Brandon

MTL

Hartnell, Scott
Johansen, Ryan
2018 4th round pick (NSH)

Additional Details:

September 22nd

NSH

MTL

Williams, Justin ($2,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

September 22nd

CAR

McCarron, Michael
2018 2nd round pick (CHI)

MTL

Staal, Eric

Additional Details:

September 23rd
3-way with NYR

MIN

Gallagher -> NYR
Staal -> MTL
JT Miller -> MIN

MTL

(continued from above 3-way trade)

NYR

Gallagher, Brendan

MTL

Fowler, Cam
Kase, Ondrej
Roy, Kevin
2019 5th round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

October 8th

ANA

MTL

Additional Details:

October 16th

CHI

Alzner, Karl
De La Rose, Jacob
2019 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Additional Details:

November 4th

COL

10.

MTL

Ang, Jonathan

Additional Details:

Leddy
Baertschi
Bastian
5th (TOR - 2019)

FLA

Additional Details:

December 1st

11.

MTL

Leddy, Nick

Additional Details:

Via Florida

NYI

12.

MTL

Baertschi, Sven

Additional Details:

Via Florida

VAN

13.

MTL

Bastian, Nathan

Additional Details:

Via Florida

NJD

14.

MTL

2019 5th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

Via Florida

TOR

15.

MTL

Prince, Shane

Additional Details:

Waiver Claim

NYI

16.

MTL

2018 6th round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

December 20th

BOS

Cayden Primeau

17.

MTL

2018 7th round pick (MTL)
2019 5th round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

Noah Cates
December 21st

PHI

Jake Evans

18.

MTL

Senyshyn, Zach

Additional Details:

January 4th

BOS

Rights to Poehling
Rights to Bitten

19.

MTL

PK Subban from Nashville
Winnik from Florida

January 7th

FLA

Additional Details:

3-way with Nashville

20.

MTL

Winnik, Daniel

Additional Details:

Via Florida

MIN

21.

MTL

Subban, P.K.

NSH

22.

MTL

Rights to Linus Olund
Antti Niemi

January 8th

PIT

Montoya, Al ($531,250 retained)

23.

MTL

Part of original 3way with NSH and FLA on January 7th (durp)

NSH

2018 2nd round pick (MTL)

Retained Salary Transactions

Tomas Plekanec: $3,000,000 (100%)
Al Montoya: $531,250 (50%)

Buried

Torrey Mitchell: $175,000 ($1,200,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$65,065,417	$0	$0	$9,934,583

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 6	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 8	Williams, Justin $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Baertschi, Sven $1,850,000$1,850,000 LW UFA - 1	Staal, Eric $3,500,000$3,500,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
	Danault, Phillip $912,500$912,500 C UFA - 1	Kase, Ondrej $670,000$670,000 RW UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $1,166,667$1,166,667 LW, RW UFA - 2		Tanev, Brandon $700,000$700,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Hartnell, Scott $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Winnik, Daniel $660,000$660,000 C UFA - 1
Prince, Shane $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Froese, Byron $650,000$650,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Leddy, Nick $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 5	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 5	Price, Carey $6,500,000$6,500,000 G NMC UFA - 1
Fowler, Cam $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 4
Schlemko, David $2,100,000$2,100,000 LD UFA - 3	Benn, Jordie $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Niemi, Antti $700,000$700,000
Barberio, Mark $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Non-Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing

	Roy, Kevin $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW UFA - 1
		Terry, Chris $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
Addison, Jeremiah $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW RFA - 3
Waked, Antoine $726,667$726,667 ($0$0$0$0) RW UFA - 3	Fortin, Alexandre $706,666$706,666 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW UFA - 3	Senyshyn, Zach $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) ($400,000$400K) RW UFA - 3
Bourque, Gabriel $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW UFA - 1	Morrow, Joe $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1	Bastian, Nathan $728,333$728,333 ($0$0$0$0) RW UFA - 4
Réway, Martin $706,666$706,666 ($0$0$0$0) ($182,500$182K) LW, C RFA - 2	Martinsen, Andreas $675,000$675,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1	Mitchell, Torrey $1,200,000$1,200,000 ($175,000$175K$175,000$175K) C, RW UFA - 1
	Eisenschmid, Markus $642,500$642,500 ($0$0$0$0) C RFA - 1
	Grégoire, Jeremy $633,333$633,333 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
	Holland, Peter $675,000$675,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 2
	Ang, Jonathan $759,166$759,166 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender


		McNiven, Michael $682,222$682,222 ($0$0$0$0) ($55,000$55K) G UFA - 3
Jeřábek, Jakub $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 1	Juulsen, Noah $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 3	Fucale, Zachary $714,167$714,167 ($0$0$0$0) ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
Taormina, Matt $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD UFA - 2	Redmond, Zach $612,500$612,500 ($0$0$0$0) RD UFA - 1
Bourque, Simon $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD RFA - 3
Lernout, Brett $653,333$653,333 ($0$0$0$0) ($257,500$258K) RD UFA - 2
Parisi, Tom $717,500$717,500 ($0$0$0$0) ($157,500$158K) D UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Drouin, J.		Johansen, R.		Williams, J.
	Fowler, C.		Subban, P.

Power Play 2
Saad, B.		Staal, E.		Williams, J.
	Leddy, N.		Petry, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Danault, P.	Byron, P.
	Schlemko, D.	Benn, J.

Penalty Kill 2
	Winnik, D.	Tanev, B.
	Fowler, C.	Petry, J.

Jan. 2, 2018 at 7:38 p.m.

#426

TMLSage

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Quoting: ricochetii

Going to hang on to Fleury. Poehling and Bitten are negotiable. Might be interested in Senyshyn and I'd like to recover a 1st round pick in 18, but 19 is a possibility as well. Have anything in mind?

I think Seny is more valuable than Poehling tbh. and bitten isnt worth a 1st.

Jan. 2, 2018 at 7:57 p.m.

#427

ricochetii

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Quoting: TMLSage

I think Seny is more valuable than Poehling tbh. and bitten isnt worth a 1st.

I agree. I wasn't making an offer, just letting you know what I'm interested in. Which piece you want to start with would determine where we go from here.

Jan. 3, 2018 at 3:20 p.m.

#428

TMLSage

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Peohling+Bitten+Ikonen for SenyShen?

Jan. 3, 2018 at 5:35 p.m.

#429

ricochetii

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Quoting: TMLSage

Peohling+Bitten+Ikonen for SenyShen?

That's too much for me. I'd do something like Poehling and Bitten for Senyshyn and Bukac. I'd be willing to add one of my extra 5ths in 2019 as well.

If you want to add Ikonen to that, I'd want at least a 2nd added from you.

Senyshyn Bukac for Poehling Bitten 5th or
Senyshyn Bukac 2nd for Poehling Ikonen Bitten 5th

Jan. 3, 2018 at 5:38 p.m.

#430

TMLSage

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Quoting: ricochetii

Id so Seny+Bukac for Poehling+Ikonen+Bitten

Jan. 3, 2018 at 6:10 p.m.

#431

ricochetii

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Quoting: TMLSage

Id so Seny+Bukac for Poehling+Ikonen+Bitten

Sorry. I think you value Senyshyn too highly, or at least significantly higher than I do. The Bruins were reaching when they drafted him in the first round. While trying to figure out his value and potential, everything seems to fit the profile of a 2nd rounder or late 1st at best. That asking price is too much of a risk.

If you're willing to move a 1st, I'll give up Poehling for Bukac and a 1st. I don't see anyone else I'm particularly interested in.

Jan. 3, 2018 at 6:27 p.m.

#432

LicMysak

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Looks like you can officially have your 2nd back in about 24 hours...

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Jan. 3, 2018 at 7:40 p.m.

#433

TMLSage

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So either Senyshen for Poehling+Bitten
or Senyshen+2nd for Peohling+Bitten+Ikonen?

Jan. 3, 2018 at 9:52 p.m.

#434

ricochetii

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Quoting: boltscharge17

Looks like you can officially have your 2nd back in about 24 hours...

We both knew it was only a matter of time lol.
Tampa's the early winners regardless (and probably the late winners as well).

Quoting: TMLSage

So either Senyshen for Poehling+Bitten
or Senyshen+2nd for Peohling+Bitten+Ikonen?

The first option works if you have an attachment to Bukac, but can you handle the extra contract?

For the second option, I'd need another prospect back to balance the number of pieces. I'm losing organizational depth otherwise. Doesn't have to be Bukac, but he's the least valuable player I'm interested in because I'm lower on depth at that position.

Jan. 3, 2018 at 10:27 p.m.

#435

LicMysak

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Quoting: ricochetii

We both knew it was only a matter of time lol.
Tampa's the early winners regardless (and probably the late winners as well).

Yzerman proceeds to send Sergachev back to Juniors..

Jan. 4, 2018 at 9:32 a.m.

#436

ricochetii

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Quoting: boltscharge17

Yzerman proceeds to send Sergachev back to Juniors..

... he refuses to report, for a while. Eventually both parties settle into an uneasy relationship, but the writing's on the wall. Yzerman trades Sergachev back to Montreal in 2 years, where Montreal proceeds to play him at center.

Jan. 4, 2018 at 11:19 a.m.

#437

LicMysak

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Quoting: ricochetii

And Montreal sends back their recently drafted prospect who proceeds to tear up the league

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Jan. 4, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.

#438

TMLSage

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Can you confirm Senyshen for Peohling+Bitten?

Jan. 4, 2018 at 4:35 p.m.

#439

ricochetii

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Quoting: TMLSage

Can you confirm Senyshen for Peohling+Bitten?

Yeah. I can do that. Feel free to write it up. I'm on mobile atm. If not I'll get to it later. Thanks for the trade.

Jan. 4, 2018 at 9:53 p.m.

#440

PrincessChloe

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Derek Forbort + what for Nick Leddy? (Or Cam Fowler depending on who you value less?)

Jan. 4, 2018 at 10:23 p.m.

#441

ricochetii

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Quoting: Icegirl

Derek Forbort + what for Nick Leddy? (Or Cam Fowler depending on who you value less?)

No thanks. Forbort doesn't have enough of an offensive dimension to his game for me to consider him.
He might make sense for someone with a more offensive RHD (Karlsson?) as a partner, but the majority of my offense on the back end comes from my left side.

Jan. 4, 2018 at 10:37 p.m.

#442

PrincessChloe

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Quoting: ricochetii

You sure? Weber is still a good offensive dman, while Petry is also passable offensively.

Jan. 4, 2018 at 10:55 p.m.

#443

ricochetii

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Quoting: Icegirl

You sure? Weber is still a good offensive dman, while Petry is also passable offensively.

I'm sure. I prefer them both with more offensive partners.

Jan. 5, 2018 at 6:12 p.m.

#444

Kotkaniemi15

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Would you be interested in this (it would be part of a 3-way):

To Montreal;
P.K. Subban (w/ $2 million retained)

To Florida;
Shea Weber
Joni Ikonen

You get a younger, cheaper, faster, more dynamic, and a shorter contract.

Jan. 5, 2018 at 6:49 p.m.

#445

ricochetii

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Quoting: EthanK24

My first thought is hell yes, but every thought after that won't let me agree to it. I want to be at least somewhat realistic in individual trades, (even though I've overshot the mark in quantity of trades).
I don't think Subban should be traded with retention. I don't think Weber and Ikonen is enough for Subban with that retention.
I resolved myself to keep Weber early on and I've built my defense with him in mind as part of it. I'm satisfied with what I have now.
Subban is not coming back to Montreal during this contract. I think the organization burnt that bridge.

The only way I could do it is if Subban was not retained and I was satisfied with the return for all 3 parties. The rest I can work around.
What would the entire deal look like right now?

Jan. 5, 2018 at 9:34 p.m.

#446

TML_Milo

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Anyone on NJD interest you??

Jan. 5, 2018 at 10:29 p.m.

#447

ricochetii

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Quoting: TML_Milo

Anyone on NJD interest you??

Popugayev somewhat. I'd like to pick up a 1st round pick somewhere as well. Was there anything you were interested in?

Jan. 5, 2018 at 11:01 p.m.

#448

TML_Milo

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Quoting: ricochetii

Popugayev somewhat. I'd like to pick up a 1st round pick somewhere as well. Was there anything you were interested in?

I was wondering if there were any actual players to buy frmo me not prospects.

Jan. 5, 2018 at 11:14 p.m.

#449

ricochetii

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Quoting: TML_Milo

I was wondering if there were any actual players to buy frmo me not prospects.

Ahh. Check description. I'm not doing any heavy shopping. Might make minor tweaks here and there, but I'm mostly working on my depth pool right now.

Jan. 6, 2018 at 6:48 p.m.

#450

Kotkaniemi15

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How about this?

Montreal Canadiens

P.K. Subban
Alex Petrovic

Nashville Predators

2018 1st (STL)
2018 2nd (MTL)
Morgan Frost
Tyler Bertuzzi

Florida Panthers

Shea Weber
A prospect of your choice

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