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GM Game v2 - Ottawa Senators

Created by: rangersandislesfan
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017
Published: Sep. 15, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Player rights:

LW - Filip Ahl - Orebro HK
C - Shane Eiserman - Univ. of New Hampshire
C - Drake Batherson - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
C - Shane Bowers - Boston Univ.
C - Tyler Soy
RW - Todd Burgess - RPI
RW - Markus Nurmi - TPS
D - Mikael Wikstrand - Farjested BK (If he returns to the NHL)
D - Kelly Summers - Clarkson Univ.
D - Miles Gendron - Univ. of Connecticut
D - Christian Wolanin - Univ. of North Dakota
G - Joel Daccord - Arizona State Univ.
G - Jordan Hollett - Medicine Hat Tigers

AHL:
F Francis Perron
F Max McCormick
G Marcus Hogberg
F Colin White
G Chris Driedger
F Kalle Kossila
D Macoy Erkamps
D Patrick Sieloff
F Max Reinhart
G Danny Taylor
F Dale Weise
D Christian Jaros
D Maxime Lajoie
D Ben Harpur
D Cody Donaghey
F Tyler Randell
F Gabriel Gagne
D Andreas Englund
F Mike Blunden
F Ben Sexton
F Nicholas Paul
D Erik Burgdoerfer
F Vincent Dunn

How available players* are (not picks, just players):
Untouchable**: E Karlsson, M Stone, T Brodie, K Turris***
Hard to get: J Pageau, M Hoffman, R Panik, B Ryan, R Dzingel, L Brown, C Ceci, D Batherson, A Forsberg, A Duclair
Don't want to have to move but could: S Bowers
Open to possibly moving: Z Smith
Available: D Weise, M Condon
Being shopped: F Claesson, D Phaneuf

Would move in the right deal: Everyone else

*-Includes prospects, signed and unsigned. Also AHLers, etc. Any players.
**-By untouchable, i don't mean price is very high, i mean not being moved.
***-Cannot be traded until Jan 1 2019
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex
3$925,000
Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
4$5,250,000
Brassard, Derick
1$5,000,000
Batherson, Drake
4$763,333
Bowers, Shane
4$925,000
Wolanin, Christian
2$925,000
Soy, Tyler
4$863,333
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Weise, Dale
Additional Details:
Not long after claiming Weise, Didomineco was claimed on waivers by the Islanders.
PHI
  1. DiDomenico, Chris
Additional Details:
Waiver claim.
2.
OTT
  1. Mitchell, Zack
  2. 2018 7th round pick (MIN)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Formenton, Alex
3.
CGY
  1. Borowiecki, Mark
  2. Chabot, Thomas
  3. 2018 5th round pick (OTT)
4.
OTT
    Because of real life trade
    5.
    OTT
      Because of real life trade
      6.
      CHI
        Waiver claim (from Anaheim, not Chicago)
        7.
        OTT
          Waiver Claim
          8.
          OTT
          1. Duclair, Anthony
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Detroit, not Chicago.
          CHI
          1. Chlapik, Filip
          2. 2019 3rd round pick (OTT)
          9.
          OTT
          1. 2018 5th round pick (TBL)
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Toronto, not Tampa Bay
          10.
          OTT
          1. Kossila, Kalle
          Additional Details:
          Rights to Tyler Soy
          Richard Panik
          2nd MIN 2018
          ANA
          1. Brassard, Derick
          11.
          OTT
          1. Pánik, Richard
          2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
          ARI
            Part of Brassard trade
            12.
            CGY
            1. Ceci, Cody
            2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
            13.
            OTT
            1. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
            14.
            OTT
            1. Kukan, Dean
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
            CBJ
            1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
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            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2018
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            Logo of the OTT
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            Logo of the NYR
            Logo of the MIN
            2019
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            2020
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$75,000,000$68,724,209$0$1,250,000$6,275,791
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $5,187,500$5,187,500
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $1,200,000$1,200,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,100,000$3,100,000
            C
            UFA - 3
            $7,250,000$7,250,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 5
            $1,800,000$1,800,000
            LW, RW, C
            UFA - 2
            $894,166$894,166
            C, LW
            RFA - 4
            $2,800,000$2,800,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            $3,250,000$3,250,000
            LW, C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
            $1,650,000$1,650,000
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $660,000$660,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $4,650,400$4,650,400
            LD/RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $6,500,000$6,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $4,200,000$4,200,000
            G
            UFA - 1
            Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
            $5,250,000$5,250,000
            $3,857,143$3,857,143
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $2,400,000$2,400,000
            G
            UFA - 3
            $1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
            LD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            $800,000$800,000
            RD
            UFA - 1
            $750,000$750,000
            G
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
            $700,000$700,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
            $4,650,000$4,650,000
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3

            Non-Roster

            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $703,333$703,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            Batherson, Drake
            $763,333$763,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $670,000$670,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            C, LW
            UFA - 1
            Bowers, Shane
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
            C, RW
            UFA - 2
            $742,500$742,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            RW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $2,350,000$2,350,000 ($1,325,000$1M$1,325,000$1M)
            RW, LW
            UFA - 3
            Soy, Tyler
            $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 2
            $635,833$635,833 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            Wolanin, Christian
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            G
            UFA - 2
            $775,833$775,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
            LD
            UFA - 2
            $735,000$735,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            $755,000$755,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            RFA - 4
            $655,000$655,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            D
            UFA - 2
            $653,333$653,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RD
            UFA - 2
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $641,667$641,667 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 2

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            Mar. 27, 2018 at 7:20 p.m.
            #3276
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            Your page header says you'll be deadline sellers.....so just WHO are you prepared to sell and for what kind of prices.
            Mar. 27, 2018 at 7:40 p.m.
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            Quoting: flamesfan419
            Your page header says you'll be deadline sellers.....so just WHO are you prepared to sell and for what kind of prices.


            We're selling rentals. Maybe Zack Mitchell and/or Johnny Oduya. Oduya would cost a later pick and Mitchell maybe a 4th?
            Mar. 27, 2018 at 8:26 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            I don't see yakimov as a great fit for us. We'd do a 6th and a 7th, that's our offer.

            Edit: Yakupov*


            That's the exact same offer as before. Counter with something else. I'd want a 4th + another pick to be involved
            Mar. 27, 2018 at 8:28 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            We're selling rentals. Maybe Zack Mitchell and/or Johnny Oduya. Oduya would cost a later pick and Mitchell maybe a 4th?


            Conditional 2019 6th for Zack Mitchell

            if he plays in at least 50% of Minnesota's Playoffs Game or is resigned, you get the pick. Otherwise, you do not get a pick.
            Mar. 27, 2018 at 11:08 p.m.
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            Quoting: DavidBooth7
            That's the exact same offer as before. Counter with something else. I'd want a 4th + another pick to be involved


            I'm saying we don't want to go higher than a 6th and a 7th.
            Mar. 27, 2018 at 11:10 p.m.
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            Quoting: BoltsPoint21
            Conditional 2019 6th for Zack Mitchell

            if he plays in at least 50% of Minnesota's Playoffs Game or is resigned, you get the pick. Otherwise, you do not get a pick.


            We don't want to end up not getting anything. We might consider moving him for a 5th.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 12:06 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            I'm saying we don't want to go higher than a 6th and a 7th.


            I respect that, but don't you think it's a little out for proportion to be demanding a 4th for Zach Mitchell, however then claiming Yakupov isn't worth a 4th and all you would pay up for him is a 6th and a 7th? In my opinion, if Mitchell is worth a 4th then Yakupov should be worth a 3rd. The talent is still in him, he just needs to find a way to use it.

            You're not going to get anything of value for Mitchell, and with Burrows and Mitchell in your lineup, it depletes your bottom 6 RWs. And as far as I can see, your hunt for another winger on your third line, from Fischier to Tuch, has failed. The way I see it, Yakupov is your last option left. If you think having a guy who went through waivers IRL without anyone claiming him and a guy who has 5 points this season is going to help your bottom 6 RWs, that's fine, but your team won't benefit from it. I'm giving you a pretty bargain for Yakupov, your last option to improve your bottom 6 RW situation; if you don't want to take advantage of that, then that's fine.
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            Mar. 28, 2018 at 12:58 a.m.
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            Quoting: DavidBooth7
            I respect that, but don't you think it's a little out for proportion to be demanding a 4th for Zach Mitchell, however then claiming Yakupov isn't worth a 4th and all you would pay up for him is a 6th and a 7th? In my opinion, if Mitchell is worth a 4th then Yakupov should be worth a 3rd. The talent is still in him, he just needs to find a way to use it.

            You're not going to get anything of value for Mitchell, and with Burrows and Mitchell in your lineup, it depletes your bottom 6 RWs. And as far as I can see, your hunt for another winger on your third line, from Fischier to Tuch, has failed. The way I see it, Yakupov is your last option left. If you think having a guy who went through waivers IRL without anyone claiming him and a guy who has 5 points this season is going to help your bottom 6 RWs, that's fine, but your team won't benefit from it. I'm giving you a pretty bargain for Yakupov, your last option to improve your bottom 6 RW situation; if you don't want to take advantage of that, then that's fine.


            Yeah, i know, i just don't know if this is the right team for him. There are other guys we're going after ahead of him though.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 1:56 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Yeah, i know, i just don't know if this is the right team for him. There are other guys we're going after ahead of him though.


            I'll make a bold prediction and say that you won't end up acquiring any of the guys you're after, for one simple reason: you're not willing to give up the assets teams would be looking for in order to move those guys. There's nothing wrong with that, you've done a good job of sticking with your plan and staying cautious with most of your players, and I'll actually go out and appluad you for that. However, take Fischier as an example. You weren't willing to move any of the guys it would take to acquire Fischier. Even when it came down to Batherson, you were hesitant to move him for Fischier, despite the fact that Marco had no interest in him at all.

            If you're looking to upgrade your wing while not moving any of your top prospects or high picks, I doubt it's going to happen. It hasn't worked with almost all the guys you've gone after so far. Therefore, I thought you'd like to have an option to upgrade that position, while not having to give up anything of significance. I'm not asking for gold and diamonds, RAIF, I only ask for a 4th and 6th rounder. It was only 5 years ago that this guy was drafted 1st overall, and only 4 years ago that he leads rookie scoring. He's still only 23, younger than both Mitchell and Burrows, while being better than them. And he will barely cost you anything cap-wise. I'm not sure what else you'd be looking for; I believe I'm meeting your trade demands and team needs quite well for a more than decent price.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 10:18 a.m.
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            Quoting: DavidBooth7
            I'll make a bold prediction and say that you won't end up acquiring any of the guys you're after, for one simple reason: you're not willing to give up the assets teams would be looking for in order to move those guys. There's nothing wrong with that, you've done a good job of sticking with your plan and staying cautious with most of your players, and I'll actually go out and appluad you for that. However, take Fischier as an example. You weren't willing to move any of the guys it would take to acquire Fischier. Even when it came down to Batherson, you were hesitant to move him for Fischier, despite the fact that Marco had no interest in him at all.

            If you're looking to upgrade your wing while not moving any of your top prospects or high picks, I doubt it's going to happen. It hasn't worked with almost all the guys you've gone after so far. Therefore, I thought you'd like to have an option to upgrade that position, while not having to give up anything of significance. I'm not asking for gold and diamonds, RAIF, I only ask for a 4th and 6th rounder. It was only 5 years ago that this guy was drafted 1st overall, and only 4 years ago that he leads rookie scoring. He's still only 23, younger than both Mitchell and Burrows, while being better than them. And he will barely cost you anything cap-wise. I'm not sure what else you'd be looking for; I believe I'm meeting your trade demands and team needs quite well for a more than decent price.


            Yeah, it's just that there are a few other guys we're going after instead right now. I do think Yakupov has potential, and we might do a 4th and a 6th if none of the other deals work, but idk if i'd call him a for sure 3rd line right wing. There are a few other guys that are closer to being 3RWs.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 10:57 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Yeah, it's just that there are a few other guys we're going after instead right now. I do think Yakupov has potential, and we might do a 4th and a 6th if none of the other deals work, but idk if i'd call him a for sure 3rd line right wing. There are a few other guys that are closer to being 3RWs.


            I'll wait a few more days until it's clear whether you can get one of those guys or not, and then we can talk then. How does that sound?
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            Mar. 28, 2018 at 11:21 a.m.
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            Quoting: DavidBooth7
            I'll wait a few more days until it's clear whether you can get one of those guys or not, and then we can talk then. How does that sound?


            Sounds good
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 11:41 a.m.
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            Would you deadline sell Hoffman?
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 12:19 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            Would you deadline sell Hoffman?


            Probably not, but i won't stop you from making an offer.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 1:48 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Probably not, but i won't stop you from making an offer.


            Ideally what would you be looking for? Something along the lines of a Rick Nash esque deal? So a 1st + LW coming back?
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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            bjorkstrand would cost a 1st+
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 5:22 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            Ideally what would you be looking for? Something along the lines of a Rick Nash esque deal? So a 1st + LW coming back?


            We'd need a top line LW + more coming back.
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 5:26 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
            bjorkstrand would cost a 1st+


            We don't have a 1st we want to give up. Do you have interest in prospects?
            Mar. 28, 2018 at 10:30 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            We don't have a 1st we want to give up. Do you have interest in prospects?


            nope
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            Mar. 28, 2018 at 11:34 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
            nope


            What if we included a 2nd in 2020?
            Mar. 30, 2018 at 1:55 a.m.
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            Florida has interest in JG Pageau. What would you want in return?
            Mar. 30, 2018 at 10:14 a.m.
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            Quoting: McJesus_
            Florida has interest in JG Pageau. What would you want in return?


            @McJesus_ we're not interested in moving him at the moment. I mean, if we got something totally crazy, we'll do it, and you can make an offer, but as of right now, we're not interested in trading him.
            Mar. 30, 2018 at 10:42 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            @McJesus_ we're not interested in moving him at the moment. I mean, if we got something totally crazy, we'll do it, and you can make an offer, but as of right now, we're not interested in trading him.


            Can you give me an idea of what you'd want before I make an offer?
            Mar. 30, 2018 at 11:11 a.m.
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            Quoting: McJesus_
            Can you give me an idea of what you'd want before I make an offer?


            To tell the truth, we'd need a centre coming back in the deal, as well as maybe a 1st and a top prospect. We'd need a big overpayment.
            Mar. 30, 2018 at 11:18 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            To tell the truth, we'd need a centre coming back in the deal, as well as maybe a 1st and a top prospect. We'd need a big overpayment.


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