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GM Game v2 - Ottawa Senators

Created by: rangersandislesfan
Team: 2017-18 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2017
Published: Sep. 15, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Player rights:

LW - Filip Ahl - Orebro HK
C - Shane Eiserman - Univ. of New Hampshire
C - Drake Batherson - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
C - Shane Bowers - Boston Univ.
C - Tyler Soy
RW - Todd Burgess - RPI
RW - Markus Nurmi - TPS
D - Mikael Wikstrand - Farjested BK (If he returns to the NHL)
D - Kelly Summers - Clarkson Univ.
D - Miles Gendron - Univ. of Connecticut
D - Christian Wolanin - Univ. of North Dakota
G - Joel Daccord - Arizona State Univ.
G - Jordan Hollett - Medicine Hat Tigers

AHL:
F Francis Perron
F Max McCormick
G Marcus Hogberg
F Colin White
G Chris Driedger
F Kalle Kossila
D Macoy Erkamps
D Patrick Sieloff
F Max Reinhart
G Danny Taylor
F Dale Weise
D Christian Jaros
D Maxime Lajoie
D Ben Harpur
D Cody Donaghey
F Tyler Randell
F Gabriel Gagne
D Andreas Englund
F Mike Blunden
F Ben Sexton
F Nicholas Paul
D Erik Burgdoerfer
F Vincent Dunn

How available players* are (not picks, just players):
Untouchable**: E Karlsson, M Stone, T Brodie, K Turris***
Hard to get: J Pageau, M Hoffman, R Panik, B Ryan, R Dzingel, L Brown, C Ceci, D Batherson, A Forsberg, A Duclair
Don't want to have to move but could: S Bowers
Open to possibly moving: Z Smith
Available: D Weise, M Condon
Being shopped: F Claesson, D Phaneuf

Would move in the right deal: Everyone else

*-Includes prospects, signed and unsigned. Also AHLers, etc. Any players.
**-By untouchable, i don't mean price is very high, i mean not being moved.
***-Cannot be traded until Jan 1 2019
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex
3$925,000
Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
4$5,250,000
Brassard, Derick
1$5,000,000
Batherson, Drake
4$763,333
Bowers, Shane
4$925,000
Wolanin, Christian
2$925,000
Soy, Tyler
4$863,333
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Weise, Dale
Additional Details:
Not long after claiming Weise, Didomineco was claimed on waivers by the Islanders.
PHI
  1. DiDomenico, Chris
Additional Details:
Waiver claim.
2.
OTT
  1. Mitchell, Zack
  2. 2018 7th round pick (MIN)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Formenton, Alex
3.
CGY
  1. Borowiecki, Mark
  2. Chabot, Thomas
  3. 2018 5th round pick (OTT)
4.
OTT
    Because of real life trade
    5.
    OTT
      Because of real life trade
      6.
      CHI
        Waiver claim (from Anaheim, not Chicago)
        7.
        OTT
          Waiver Claim
          8.
          OTT
          1. Duclair, Anthony
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Detroit, not Chicago.
          CHI
          1. Chlapik, Filip
          2. 2019 3rd round pick (OTT)
          9.
          OTT
          1. 2018 5th round pick (TBL)
          Additional Details:
          Trade is with Toronto, not Tampa Bay
          10.
          OTT
          1. Kossila, Kalle
          Additional Details:
          Rights to Tyler Soy
          Richard Panik
          2nd MIN 2018
          ANA
          1. Brassard, Derick
          11.
          OTT
          1. Pánik, Richard
          2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
          ARI
            Part of Brassard trade
            12.
            CGY
            1. Ceci, Cody
            2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
            13.
            OTT
            1. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
            14.
            OTT
            1. Kukan, Dean
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
            CBJ
            1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            Trade is with Minnesota, not Columbus.
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            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2018
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            Logo of the TBL
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            Logo of the NYR
            Logo of the MIN
            2019
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
            2020
            Logo of the OTT
            Logo of the OTT
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            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
            23$75,000,000$68,724,209$0$1,250,000$6,275,791
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $5,187,500$5,187,500
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,500,000$3,500,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $1,200,000$1,200,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            $3,100,000$3,100,000
            C
            UFA - 3
            $7,250,000$7,250,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 5
            $1,800,000$1,800,000
            LW, RW, C
            UFA - 2
            $894,166$894,166
            C, LW
            RFA - 4
            $2,800,000$2,800,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 2
            $3,250,000$3,250,000
            LW, C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
            $1,650,000$1,650,000
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RW, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $660,000$660,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $4,650,400$4,650,400
            LD/RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            $6,500,000$6,500,000
            RD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            $4,200,000$4,200,000
            G
            UFA - 1
            Phaneuf, Dion (7M cap hit)
            $5,250,000$5,250,000
            $3,857,143$3,857,143
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $2,400,000$2,400,000
            G
            UFA - 3
            $1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,250,000$1M)
            LD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            $800,000$800,000
            RD
            UFA - 1
            $750,000$750,000
            G
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
            $700,000$700,000
            LD/RD
            UFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
            $4,650,000$4,650,000
            LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3

            Non-Roster

            Left WingCentreRight Wing
            $703,333$703,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            Batherson, Drake
            $763,333$763,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $670,000$670,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            C, LW
            UFA - 1
            Bowers, Shane
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
            C, RW
            UFA - 2
            $742,500$742,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
            RW
            UFA - 2
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            $2,350,000$2,350,000 ($1,325,000$1M$1,325,000$1M)
            RW, LW
            UFA - 3
            Soy, Tyler
            $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
            $737,500$737,500 ($0$0$0$0)
            RW
            UFA - 1
            $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 2
            $635,833$635,833 ($0$0$0$0)
            C
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            Wolanin, Christian
            $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            G
            UFA - 2
            $775,833$775,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
            LD
            UFA - 2
            $735,000$735,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            G
            UFA - 1
            $755,000$755,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            RD
            UFA - 3
            $720,000$720,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            RFA - 4
            $655,000$655,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            D
            UFA - 2
            $653,333$653,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            RD
            UFA - 2
            $650,000$650,000 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 1
            $641,667$641,667 ($0$0$0$0)
            LD
            UFA - 2

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            Mar. 30, 2018 at 9:42 p.m.
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            Is Stone Available at the deadline?
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 1:33 a.m.
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            Quoting: McJesus_
            Plekanec & Svechnikov?


            Yeah, no, sorry, that's not gonna get it done.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 1:34 a.m.
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            Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
            Is Stone Available at the deadline?

            Not unless we get something absolutely ridiculous.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 11:21 a.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Not unless we get something absolutely ridiculous.


            Are you actually selling anything at the deadline then? Or is it just bottom6 / 3rd pair players that had probably been available the entire game.... or at least should have been.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 3:30 p.m.
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            Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
            Are you actually selling anything at the deadline then? Or is it just bottom6 / 3rd pair players that had probably been available the entire game.... or at least should have been.


            We might do bigger stuff in the offseason ... right now we're mainly selling rentals, and also some other lower-line guys ... the only big-name player that we're very open to trading is Brassard.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 5:13 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            We might do bigger stuff in the offseason ... right now we're mainly selling rentals, and also some other lower-line guys ... the only big-name player that we're very open to trading is Brassard.


            Okay, if you decide you're willing to let go of Stone I could offer a package where you get a few assets. I could do Spooner + 2018 1st + Malcolm Subban + Ryan Lindgren. My thoughts behind this package was that Spooner plays best at RW, so he fills the void left by Stone. Subban is a better goalie than anything you have including prospects (I looked at them all). Lindgren would replace Phaneuf in a year or two with a similar physical DFD style. The 1st would help you get the other need you might have after using your own 1st. I'd assume a top C, a good RHD and a skilled scoring winger might be on your wish list via the draft. If you had the extra 1st you'd get 2 of those crossed off..... This is just something to think about, I'd be flexible about which players were in the deal, but it'd be working around the same value.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 5:48 p.m.
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            Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
            Okay, if you decide you're willing to let go of Stone I could offer a package where you get a few assets. I could do Spooner + 2018 1st + Malcolm Subban + Ryan Lindgren. My thoughts behind this package was that Spooner plays best at RW, so he fills the void left by Stone. Subban is a better goalie than anything you have including prospects (I looked at them all). Lindgren would replace Phaneuf in a year or two with a similar physical DFD style. The 1st would help you get the other need you might have after using your own 1st. I'd assume a top C, a good RHD and a skilled scoring winger might be on your wish list via the draft. If you had the extra 1st you'd get 2 of those crossed off..... This is just something to think about, I'd be flexible about which players were in the deal, but it'd be working around the same value.


            Yeah, i think we're probably keeping Stone for now. I doubt we move him in the offseason either. Spooner's good but i don't see him as a real top line RW. He's having a good year but it's just one year so i think he's more of a 2RW. That's a pretty good offer, but i still don't think it's gonna get us to move a potential superstar in Stone. Not saying he's a superstar, or even that he will become one, but he definitely could, whether he does or not. And he's a top line RW anyway.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 6:29 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Yeah, i think we're probably keeping Stone for now. I doubt we move him in the offseason either. Spooner's good but i don't see him as a real top line RW. He's having a good year but it's just one year so i think he's more of a 2RW. That's a pretty good offer, but i still don't think it's gonna get us to move a potential superstar in Stone. Not saying he's a superstar, or even that he will become one, but he definitely could, whether he does or not. And he's a top line RW anyway.


            Yeah he's definitely a 1st line RW and Spooner is a 2nd line RW, but that's why there were 3 more assets. I don't know if Stone would become a superstar, but I was thinking he'd be more physical and also score more. I think he'd be a much better fit with Krejci than Spooner. On a separate note: I'd trade you Subban for a 2nd + 3rd + Forsberg... I thought you might want a potential franchise goalie.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 10:12 p.m.
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            Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
            Yeah he's definitely a 1st line RW and Spooner is a 2nd line RW, but that's why there were 3 more assets. I don't know if Stone would become a superstar, but I was thinking he'd be more physical and also score more. I think he'd be a much better fit with Krejci than Spooner. On a separate note: I'd trade you Subban for a 2nd + 3rd + Forsberg... I thought you might want a potential franchise goalie.


            Not interested in the Subban trade, that's quite a bit for us to give up. About Stone, not saying the value isn't there, just saying that he's a big part of our team and to move him we'd need a 1RW + something else pretty good. We aren't gonna make deals just because we'd be getting fair value. It has to actually make sense for the team, and Stone is one of the guys we're building our team around.
            Mar. 31, 2018 at 10:44 p.m.
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            Alright RAIF, doesn't look like you've managed to get any of your desired RW targets. Wanna squeak in a quick March deal? A 2019 4th and 2018 6th is all it'll take to get Yakupov.

            Before quickly responding to this, make sure to review what I've already said and what my reasoning was in my previous posts on this thread, so that I won't have to repeat myself Sticking Out Tongue

            Edit: well, obviously can't be a March deal anymore Sticking Out Tongue. But still, take a look to review my previous posts on this matter, and respond to my offer as soon as possible. Thanks
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 1:40 a.m.
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            Brian Gibbons for a 2019 4th?

            Would also consider Burrows + 2019 3rd for Gibbons... saves you 2.5M against your cap
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 2:40 a.m.
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            Quoting: DavidBooth7
            Alright RAIF, doesn't look like you've managed to get any of your desired RW targets. Wanna squeak in a quick March deal? A 2019 4th and 2018 6th is all it'll take to get Yakupov.

            Before quickly responding to this, make sure to review what I've already said and what my reasoning was in my previous posts on this thread, so that I won't have to repeat myself Sticking Out Tongue

            Edit: well, obviously can't be a March deal anymore Sticking Out Tongue. But still, take a look to review my previous posts on this matter, and respond to my offer as soon as possible. Thanks


            We're still talking to a few other teams about some other guys.
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 2:42 a.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            Brian Gibbons for a 2019 4th?

            Would also consider Burrows + 2019 3rd for Gibbons... saves you 2.5M against your cap


            Not interested at the moment, Gibbons is a UFA.
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 2:28 p.m.
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            I notice that cap space has been an issue in a number of deals you're trying to negotiate. I would take Burrows' contract off your hands if you throw in 2018 4th and 2018 7th
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 2:36 p.m.
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            Quoting: TonyStrecher
            I notice that cap space has been an issue in a number of deals you're trying to negotiate. I would take Burrows' contract off your hands if you throw in 2018 4th and 2018 7th


            Not looking to give up picks just to get rid of him. Also, RW is a problem for us anyway.
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 2:43 p.m.
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            I would also save you 2M by doing a Burrows + pick swap for Gibbons... could likely call up a young guy to take over the 3/4 wing spot next year like Brown/White/Bowers/Batherson
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 3:32 p.m.
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            Quoting: jmac490
            I would also save you 2M by doing a Burrows + pick swap for Gibbons... could likely call up a young guy to take over the 3/4 wing spot next year like Brown/White/Bowers/Batherson


            Like i said, i don't want to give up a pick just to get rid of Burrows. Also not interested in Gibbons.
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 3:46 p.m.
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            I have a player in mind I'd like to take "Hoff" your hands
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 4:21 p.m.
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            Quoting: Turner33
            I have a player in mind I'd like to take "Hoff" your hands


            Not interested in moving Hoffman at the moment ... but you could always make an offer. We'd need a 1LW + something pretty good though.
            Apr. 1, 2018 at 7:00 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            Not interested in moving Hoffman at the moment ... but you could always make an offer. We'd need a 1LW + something pretty good though.


            Ok well I wouldn't trade Hoffmann plus something for Hoffman. That wouldn't make any sense
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            Apr. 1, 2018 at 7:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: Turner33
            Ok well I wouldn't trade Hoffmann plus something for Hoffman. That wouldn't make any sense


            I know, i'm just saying that's what it would take. Not saying you should do it, but there's nothing else that's gonna get you Hoffman other than a huge overpayment.
            Apr. 2, 2018 at 5:32 p.m.
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            Price on Erik Karlsson....and I'm serious. Give me a price.
            Apr. 2, 2018 at 6:09 p.m.
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            Quoting: flamesfan419
            Price on Erik Karlsson....and I'm serious. Give me a price.


            You don't have what it would take to get him. He's almost 100% untouchable. The only guy i'd move him straight up for is McDavid (who you don't have) and any package would have to include a younger superstar.
            Apr. 2, 2018 at 6:16 p.m.
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            Quoting: rangersandislesfan
            You don't have what it would take to get him. He's almost 100% untouchable. The only guy i'd move him straight up for is McDavid (who you don't have) and any package would have to include a younger superstar.


            I give you a chance to name your price, and this is what you come back with???

            So you're telling me that if I offered you...
            2018 1st rd pick
            2018 2nd rd pick
            2 x 2019 1st rd pick

            That's 3x 1st round picks plus a 2nd round pick.

            I bet @HoffmanisKing would take this offer. But since you want what I don't have I'll have to take my picks and move along.
            Apr. 2, 2018 at 6:20 p.m.
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            Quoting: flamesfan419
            I give you a chance to name your price, and this is what you come back with???

            So you're telling me that if I offered you...
            2018 1st rd pick
            2018 2nd rd pick
            2 x 2019 1st rd pick

            That's 3x 1st round picks plus a 2nd round pick.

            I bet @HoffmanisKing would take this offer. But since you want what I don't have I'll have to take my picks and move along.


            Karlsson is the superstar of the Senators. We're going to try to sign him and there's no reason to trade him.
             
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