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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 14, 2020 at 7:17 a.m.
Thread: CUP CHAMPIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad21</b></div><div>Haha haha surely you must be joking.How?</div></div>

How are Calgary and Toronto measurably better in theory or in practice?

Toronto went 36-25-9 in 70 games last year. Calgary went 36-27-7 in 70. Edmonton went 37-25-9 in 71 games last year. Better than both teams (but they played an extra game). Edmonton did better in the standings than either team.

Goaltending? Markstrom's save percentage last season? .918 Andersen's save percentage? 9.09. Koskinen's save percentage? 9.17. So Calgary will pay an aging goalie an extra 1.5m for another 6 years for literally an extra thousandth of a save percentage. Freddie Andersen's save percentage is no better than a backup goalie's. Does it even have a backup goalie? WTF are you talking about?

Probably the reason Freddi Andersen's save percentage was so horrible is because Toronto's defense is so bad. Seriously, who Does Toronto have on Defense? Aside from TJ Brodie and Morgan Rielly, who are legit, it has 2 NHL has-beens, Muzzin and Bogosian, then the rest are AHLers. Seriously, JUSTIN HOLL, RASMUS SANDIN, CALLE ROSEN, and MARTIN MARINCIN? Calgary's defense is legit, but it was gutted with the loss of TJ Brodie and Hamonic, etc. A lot of great prospects whom I love like Juuso Valimaki, etc. But Edmonton's is still by far the best in terms of GA and puck-moving, followed by Calgary. Toronto can't defend and that's why it routinely gets creamed by good teams like Boston.

Forwards? Out of kindness, I will leave Calgary alone and pick on Toronto. Forget Connor McDavid vs. Auston Matthews . . . Draisaitl is better than Auston Matthews in each and every available metric. Toronto pays just 4 forwards just over $40m. Hard to pay the other 19 guys you need to fill out a roster.

What did Toronto do to improve? Well, they LOST two young promising wingers in Kapanen and Johnsson and replaced them with 32 year old RW Wayne Simmonds. Simmonds scored 25 points last season and was MINUS 21. On LW, Toronto replaced Johnsson with Jimmy Vesey (20 pts) of the Buffalo Sabres. Yikes.

Edmonton signed Barrie, Turris, and Puljujarvi to sweetheart deals. Oh, and Dominik Kahun, Draisaitl's longtime linemate who has roughly the same points per 60 as Taylor Hall and is only getting paid 925k. Edmonton's PP was the best in the league in 30 years. It had the best combined PP/PK in the league this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread: Kahunanza
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bringer_Of_Snow</b></div><div>Im hoping Holland has a few moves up his sleeves for the forwards still. There are so many guys signed. I like Haas way more than Khaira and even though Chaisson still produces and it appears Tippett really likes him, Im not sure there is any room for them to be in the lineup if the Oilers can land either Kahun or Duclair. Thats too much money to waist. If they can move out about the $3,5M between Chiasson and Khaira, that would open up the opportunity to get one of those guys.

I like Kahun too. Seems like a good middle 6 guy who has the skill to play top 6 if given the opportunity. As for the contract you proposed, that seems like a big time overpayment in term and AAV given the times. If the Oilers had no problems giving that contract out to Kahun, you'd think Anthanasiou would still be here.</div></div>

I don't think that they should move out Chiasson. He is a power play GENIUS and one of the keys to the Oilers' unreal success on the PP last season. He has a great shot and is also a great net front guy. His 5 v 5 scoring might also be a product of not having a great centre. He's overpaid by 500k at most, IMO.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Not as easy as it seems. For this to work klef has to be placed on ltir after season starts to maximize ltir relief.</div></div>

Right you are. As I understand it, each team has to be 100% cap-compliant when the season starts. Kahun would have to be signed on Day 1 of the season after Klefbom goes on LTIR.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 19, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
Thread: We should at least try to sign Kahun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kukas2600</b></div><div>if he’s buddies with Drai, why not play him there and give McDavid an even better winger in RNH?</div></div>

Yep. Worth a shot. I Just like the RNH/Draisaitl/Yamamoto line because it was the best in the NHL. Why mess with it?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilsince95</b></div><div>Sure would love to replace Chiasson's salary with Kahun's. If we were able to present Kahun with the same number promised, hold that deal, and then ship out Chiasson for any late pick, I'd sure be down.</div></div>

Chiasson is overpaid $500k at most . . . but he's the net front guy on the league's best power play (best combined special teams in 40 years). Huge part of the team winning this year. I say keep him.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread: How to Spend Klefboms LTIR Plus other ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cody_tugak</b></div><div>I'm confident that they'll be ready by the 2021-2022 season, be nice if we could find a seasoned veteran for each pair, someone who'd be a good fit with all the young guys, and yes I'm skeptical about Berglund too, would have been nice if we got Helge Grans in this past draft, I think he would have been great with Broberg, I know Samorukov will be great, I just still can't find someone who'd be a nice pairing with him, I think it would be awesome if we could get the guys paired up with guys from the same country as them, beat the language barrier which we all know Puljujärvi had and was a huge road block in his development, if you can't understand your linemate, you'll be lost on the ice, after all this happens, we need to work on getting more quality scoring wingers</div></div>

Agreed. I just meant that I didn't know much about Berglund, not that I doubted his abilities. I've heard that he's the most developed on the ones you listed and he plays good minutes in Sweden.

Agree though about language barrier. People squawk at me all the time when I say that Edmonton should trade for Patrik Laine . . . Imagine a line with Laine/McDavid/Puljujarvi. Laine and Pool were magic at the World Juniors when they were on a line together.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 14, 2020 at 11:22 p.m.
Thread: How to Spend Klefboms LTIR Plus other ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cody_tugak</b></div><div>Sign Bear short term for as minimal as possible 2 years is what I'd feel comfortable with, basically a prove it or lose your spot on the team contract, if Bear can play twice as good as he played last season, keep him, if not, trade him while he still has value, we do have defense in the likes of Broberg, Samorukov and Bouchard that definitely should come up not this upcoming season but the season after, as a life long Oilers fan this is what I'd like to see in the season after this upcoming season.

Nurse/Bouchard
Broberg/Berglund
Samorukov/Shutdown defenceman possibly from UFA</div></div>

Ken Holland's statements on drafting defensemen were really interesting. He said that you select them for their offense. But they make the team on the merits of their defensive reads. Bouchard, Broberg, and Samorukov are all good offensive players, but I have no idea how they are progressing defensively. Not sure about Berglund if I am being honest. Basically, they are all unproven and need to prove their defensive abilities at the NHL level. The current formula seems to be working so I don't think they need to radically overhaul things.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 6:29 p.m.
Thread: Hoffman and dado
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>If they're willing to sign that cheap, sure, but I don't see it happening.

I think (hope) Poile goes after one final signing this free agency - a top 6 forward. Both of these players fill that need, but I'd prefer to keep the term to 4 years or less. If it happens to go to 5, then I'd want the AAV under $6m like you have here.

It definitely makes NSH contenders next season if they can add both Dadonov + Hoffman. I think a Hoffman deal will look closer to $6.25m x 4 years and Dadonov slightly below, maybe $5.75 x 3 years. I don't know if Poile will be savvy enough to do it this off-season, but stranger things have happened.</div></div>

Nah. Nobody has any cap space to sign either for those terms except maybe Ottawa.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread: Bear and Poolparty for Kapanen and Liljgren
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Time will tell, of course. Here are all 4 players boxcars from their 22-year-old season:

Letang: 73, 3- 24-27 +1 (3rd full NHL season)
Ellis: 80, 6-21-27 +9 (1st full season)
Spurgeon: 70, 3-20-23 -4 (1st full season, although he played 53 games the prior year)
Bear: 71, 5-16-21 -4

Some of these guys got more PP opportunity than others, so here's their 5v5 scoring numbers:

Letang: 2-18-20 (1st pairing)
Bear: 71, 4-15-19 (1st pairing)
Ellis: 6-13-19 (3rd pairing)
Spurgeon: 70, 1-9-10 (2nd / 1st pairing)

Sure Bear needs to prove he can sustain this level of play, but it's not obvious from what I can see that these guys are "several levels" better.

As far as value goes, Bear probably has just as much as Spurgeon and Letang for two key reasons: cap hit and age. At 33, Letang doesn't have very many great years ahead - he's already sustained several serious injuries in his career - and his $7.25M cap hit until he's 35 is significant. Spurgeon has less upside than Letang and although he's a little younger, his $7.575M cap hit stretches to cover his 37-year-old season which is prohibitive for most teams.

It could be argued that Bear has at least equal trade value to Letang, greater value than Spurgeon and less value than Ellis.</div></div>

Stop using numbers and logic on Toronto fans. It's wasted. :)