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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.

Thread: Loading up on picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Exactly! It’s an awful contract that requires retention to be…not as awful. You aren’t moving him any other way.

Between an awful contract, age, a NTC, <a href="https://www.crossingbroad.com/2023/05/kevin-hayes-philly-house-for-sale-amid-summer-trade-rumors.html?amp" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">a known desire to leave PHI,</a> and for PHI to leave him, nobody is giving up the haul some PHI ACGMs seem to think Hayes will get.

After all, “I don’t care what people in these forums think.”</div></div>

I agree that nobody would touch him at $7+ mil but at $5 mil he has value and isn't just a cap dump.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.

Thread: Leafs

Quality, not quantity please

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.

Thread: Loading up on picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>I really wouldn’t call an expiring contract with a $4M cap a dump, particularly with Rosy. Plenty of teams would give up a 2nd or so for him (check out some of the PIT ACGMs around here).

I would call a 3 x $7.1M contract a cap-dump, though. <a href="https://theathletic.com/4380971/2023/04/05/kevin-hayes-flyers-trade-contract/?source=user_shared_article" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">And PHI</a> seems <a href="https://twitter.com/CBJcenter/status/1638911693299351552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1638911693299351552%7Ctwgr%5Ee874d2221f1661c982b5ca567eaef8214ac9d96d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.capfriendly.com%2Fforums%2Fthread%2F710528" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">to agree.</a></div></div>

But it's not $7.1 when you retain 30% now is it...and nobody is giving up a 2nd for Roslovic, I don't care what people in these forums think.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

Thread: Loading up on picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>Good point, I just wonder if he would take that as "they buy you out and you get to sign with someone else" or "they buy you out and your NHL career is pretty much over."</div></div>

It's either the Leafs buy him out or we do in this scenario...there is no other option

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

Thread: Loading up on picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Moss_Bucket</b></div><div>Not bad at all. My only concern would be the Toronto trade, cause I doubt Murray will not put Philly on his M-NTC.</div></div>

My reasoning would be that everyone tells Murray that he's going to be bought out either way so his NTC is irrelevant.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.

Thread: Philly Fans

The Flyers waited years for Cates and he was one of the best defensive players in the league last year. He will not be available.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.

Thread: Loading up on picks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I think most of those are a bit weak for PHI</div></div>

You know how CF works...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.

Thread: Canesss bigtime

Need more quality for TK. A trade for TK should include at min a 1st in the teens or equivalent prospect + a pick

Forum: GM Game 2019-20Jun. 3, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.

Thread: General Chat

BOG admitting in GC that they make people they don’t like pay more for contracts.

Time for a brand new bog.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.

Thread: Flyer Fans What is his cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BenningTruther</b></div><div>so why would van sell low on him? was also sent down to keep his waiver status and because he had never played in the ahl. management has made it a point they want EVERYONE to get games in abby (Podkolzin, Aman also sent down. Linus Karlson could have gotten nhl games too this year but canucks development in Abby is a priority)</div></div>

Why would the Flyers sell low on Provy? Either pay a reasonable price for a guy that plays 24 min a night or move on

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.

Thread: Flyer Fans What is his cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>Probably won’t get more than 2024 1st and a 2nd if we are being honest unless there’s some major retention involved and or someone in VAN loves Provy lol</div></div>

Hoglander couldn't even stay in the the NHL last year, he's not worth much right now.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.

Thread: TreLive TreLaugh TreLove

You just posted the cost to dump Murray let alone pay for TK

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.

Thread: Flyer Fans What is his cost

2024 1st, top 5 protected, Hoglander and another pick?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Yeah, Canes will pass on that. Likely downgrading both picks, so no reason to do that.</div></div>

The CBJ pick is likely an upgrade. The Flyers aren't going to be a bottom team next year

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:55 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>The cap is about to rise significantly 1 year from now. He'll get a lot more money then if he signs a 1-year bridge now.</div></div>

You think the Oilers are gonna pay him like $9 mil? Have 2 $9 mil D men :grimace

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Selling everything for picks then giving up 4 picks on one guy is the most flyers thing ever</div></div>

I mean there are still 5 1sts in the next 2 years in this scenario. Bouchard is 23 and would fit out timeline perfectly. It's hard to find players of his caliber.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>I don't think he'd sign it, making your point moot. It's not enough money for a 7 year term and Philadelphia sucks.</div></div>

"It's not enough money"

$53 million dollars isn't enough money? I think he'd like $53 mil over the $3 mil the Oilers are going to offer him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Why would Bouchard sign that though? His long term value is likely higher right now and PHI isn't exactly a prime destination.</div></div>

Do the Oilers plan on paying him in peanuts or something because you can't afford that price.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Why doesn't PHI sign Bouchard for 1 year instead of 7 if you're going to offer sheet him? You end up paying less</div></div>

If he'd sign it then sure but longer term for lots of money is harder to pass on.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>How much for just Laughton?</div></div>

1st, Allison was just thrown in to appease Leafs fans like Snipe and he still got upset.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.

Thread: OS Bouchard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>Leafs decline</div></div>

I already know your stance, thanks...

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.

Thread: 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grog</b></div><div>A first, a prospect, and an NHL ready defenseman. What else would you like added? Provorov will be moved by Philly at some point. I'm curious what return you're looking for.</div></div>

The Prospect is like D level, he adds no value. The 1st is likely to be mid to late 20's and Timmins is a 3rd pairing D man. That doesn't get you our top paid D man let alone with retention. TOR doesn't have the assets imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.

Thread: 2024

If the Flyers are retaining their top D man down to $4 mil, you need better than this.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: Buying

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>What's wrong with the stud Jake Allen?</div></div>

You mean 32 year old Jake Allen? Might have a timeframe issue with our rebuild

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.

Thread: Buying

Quality over quantity please

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