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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Open For Business
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OkMan</b></div><div>Terrible value for the Preds. They decline</div></div>
You just got Galchenyuk in a trade for 93. That’s a terrible trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
Thread:
Matthews agrees to sign back home
Arizona is a sinking ship, they have no arena deal, they have no arena, they have zero prospects of an arena.
Sorry mate, Arizona Coyote’s are going to be the Houston Aero’s in two years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Hopefully not very long, which is why we traded Meier and are right now attempting to trade Karlsson. Vlassic says he doesn't want to be traded and Couture will be tough with his contract and probably doesn't want to go either based on interviews. Hertl will probably still be viable by the time we are competitive again but trading him isn't a bad idea if the return is good.
We are in a rebuild, so yes we will continue to suck until these magic beans start to pay off. Paying for short term players is a losing strategy for teams who are trying to completely rebuild their rosters/systems. It's like buying tickets to a concert you know you're not going to be in town for.</div></div>
You have no RHD, EK will be gone soon. Nobody in the SJ organization has said “Rebuild”, further to that you have nobody to trade.
My point is SJ fans can piss and moan about a player all day long, the fact is Grier makes that trade Ceci for a late pick) all day long.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Benning was solid for us last year and we're extremely happy with his contract. Kynyzhov is LD and the reason he's been up and down is due to injury. Simek Vlasic and Macdonald can all slide over to the right, but its not ideal. None of this actually matters in a discussion about whether or not the Sharks should trade for Ceci though. We shouldn't be trading for anyone who doesn't further the rebuild. Yes Cody Ceci would fit in well in SJ. If you'd like to send him over for free we'd be thankful, but otherwise we'll keep the 7th and use it to draft a player that will be with the organization longer than two years.
We're not going to win anything next year or any time soon. Cody Ceci won't change that before he walks in free agency two years from now and so he isn't worth a 7th (to the Sharks). If he's as amazing as you say I'm sure there will be a line of contenders happy to pay a 7th for him.</div></div>
Have you actually ever read the statistics of ANY player making the NHL past the 3rd round? Ceci has two years left on his contract, a normal pick takes 3-4 years to mature.
So suck it is for SJ.
How much longer do the veterans of the SJ hang around waiting for these magic beans to appear?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 23 pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oiler_fan88</b></div><div>Yes you can trade the future but you don't put all your eggs in one basket when you can't afford an extension</div></div>
Next years cap should go up between 8M & 10M
The Oilers can afford an extension.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
Thread:
METROPOLITAN Trade partner and Bergeron one more time
Oilers don’t have the cap space to make this trade for ether player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
logical I hope
Oilers wouldn’t give up 1st rounder to move Campbell.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 23 pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Sharks pass</div></div>
On what? Getting better?
Your R side consist of EK - Benning who couldn’t make the Oilers bottom pair full time when they weren’t good, same as in Nashville & a Russian tweeter who spend just as much time in the AHL.
Meanwhile, Ceci has played 37% of his time vs elites.
He would instantly be your number 2 RHD but most likely push EK down to second pairing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 23 pesce
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oiler_fan88</b></div><div>Holy overpay</div></div>
Vegas won the cup, tell us how many 1st rounders they have? I’ll save you the trouble. One. That’s it. That is why Vegas has the players they do, they don’t care about picks or prospects.
Look at the Ekholm deal.
3 firsts plus a 4th and a legit top 5 offensive defenceman
JP traded so the Oilers could use his cap to acquire Ekholm.
Reid Schaefer
1st rounder in 2023
4th rounder.
Pesce is every bit as good as Ekholm. Oilers set this precedent & I don’t know why you’re surprised.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>They aren’t paying anything to take him on…not even a 7th</div></div>
SJ RHD is as follows EK who wants to be traded, Matt Benning who wasn’t good enough on the Oilers to be even a 3rd pairing Dman or Nashville’s 3rd pairing Dman and an absolute tweeter in Nikolai Knyzhov who is jumping back and forth to the AHL and Cody Ceci a RHD who has played 37% against elites for the last 3 years isn’t good enough?
You’re out to lunch dude, he would be SJ best RHD defender against elites immediately on SJ.
That’s how piss poor your defence is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 5:17 a.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>You gave up 3 first round picks for a 1 year rental defenseman and you think that's a good deal for Edmonton? Okay then...</div></div>
Ya, almost identical to the Ekholm trade so I ‘m not sure which part has you confused?
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/what-the-oilers-get-and-give-up-in-bold-trade-for-mattias-ekholm/
Oilers traded the1st round pick and 4th overall pick (Puljujarvi) in order to move money to make the Ekholm trade work.
Then they sent Reid Reid Schaefer a 1st round pick
They sent the 1st overall pick in 2023
They sent a 4th overall pick.
Let’s count the 1st overall picks together 1 - JP 2 - Schaefer 3 - the 2023 pick
Now before you say anything else, You’re going to say the JP pick went to Carolina……Yes, but Holland mentions in the article the Ekholm trade was the main reason JP was traded.
Ether way, the return on Ekholm was 2 firsts and a top ten scoring RHD.
So your giving up to much isn’t any different then what the actual team gave up.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 4:59 a.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Not a chance Konecny gets 70-80 points in Edmonton, as he's not getting 1st unit PP time. He literally scored just 5 points more than Foegele at 5v5 last season with better linemates. How is that worth giving up essentially 2 firsts + 2 seconds? And at twice the cap hit of Foegele too.</div></div>
If you think TK isn’t better than Foegele I don’t know what to tell you.
Cheers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 7:50 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>That's too much for Pesce. Start with the Ekholm deal and drop the bid based on term and ability.
Also too much for Konecny, but maybe I'm higher than most on Holloway. Foegele had 27 points at 5v5 last season and Konecny had 32. Is that 5 point boost worth all the stuff you gave up? Not even close.</div></div>
Not according to the masses here.
I don’t think the Pesce deal is bad ether way.
TK is a 60 point player if healthy and probably a 70 to 80 points playing with Draisaitl or McDavid.
TK is a nasty player too, a true Marchand type player.
I think the deal might be a bit over, but TK is a player Oilers could use.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>I think he means within reason... like you aren't going to ask for Connor McDavid for Brett Pesce. There are a couple of pieces I might be interested in coming back to Carolina</div></div>
Ya, I was just messin.
Cheers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
Thread:
If McDavid requested a trade tomorrow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Then he holds out and that gets uglier and uglier and hurts your return more and more. Pray it never comes to it, because there is no scenario where the Oilers come out happy if McDavid wants out. You maximize what you can get because it won't be enough.</div></div>
So be it, Oilers did this with Proger and screwed themselves, Quebec did it and got fair value.
If McDavid sits out he won’t sit for long.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
Thread:
If McDavid requested a trade tomorrow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Totally agree with this accessment.</div></div>
Eric Lindros trade made the Colorado Avalanche Stanley Cup Champions & the Flyers never really recovered.
Oilers management simply doesn’t trade McDavid to one team, player picks ten teams.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
Thread:
If McDavid requested a trade tomorrow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Edmonton wouldn't have much say in it. If McDavid wants out, you are getting bent over. His NMC will drive the price down so so much.</div></div>
We’ve been down this road before and management screwed it up bad.
The player doesn’t have control. If the contract is signed and the player wants out a ten team negotiation starts.
If the player only wants to go to one team then the answer is simply no…..We’re not trading you then.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
Thread:
If McDavid requested a trade tomorrow
Edmonton declines
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>T0R</b></div><div>Brown is not signing for 1 mil or else he’ll have multiple destinations besides this one</div></div>
Going by what he said on Luke Gazdic podcast.
The 1M is explained in the comment section above, Browns contract and Toews contract would be bonus based. 1.5M in bonuses. So the actual contract would be 2.5M.
Hope that clears it up.
Cheers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rhenry18</b></div><div>Canes decline, I just don’t think there’s anyone on the Oilers roster that’s worth receiving by giving up Pesce. There really isn’t a fit for us.</div></div>
Really? Anyone………You can’t think of one player the Oilers have that would be worth it………Hahaha
Cheers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>InRodWeTrust</b></div><div>I don't think Canes fans are going to blow up on you. We got that out of our system the first 50 times we saw this exact trade and sales pitch. Not sure how it sounds any different now.</div></div>
It gets old fast, I get it.
Which is why I doubt this trade happens unless it’s a TD deal, no way the Oilers can’t make this deal without Ceci money going out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
Thread:
Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>Yes, we are used to getting baited like this
There needs to be like an NHL icon at the top to fix it but</div></div>
Completely agree.
Cheers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
Thread:
bye bye Nuge
RNH has a full blown NMC, he isn’t going anywhere.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
Thread:
An Absolute Unit of a Team
The Jets would be asking for Skinner not Campbell
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
Thread:
Draft Day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Drshnuckels91</b></div><div>Nah I disagree, karlsson at 7.5 mil for only 4 years if fair, Mesar is a fantastic forward prospect, Allen is a fine replacement and we lost Campbells contract without giving up anything extra? I say yes to this deal honestly, we still have assets and room to make a move for Pesce or another top 6 RW.</div></div>
It’s a huge risk, good points…
Campbell nixes the deal anyways, the thought of moving that contract out is so appealing though.
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