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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread: Konecny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>I suppose I should've specified that it's the cap and timing that limits it, not that Pesce is lacking. Even adding the extra 750k in difference between Pesce and Ceci really limits the team's ability to ice a mostly-full roster. For me, it's best to focus on getting the RFAs locked up without going too tight to the cap. Bouchard 3 * 1, McLeod 1.75 * 2, and Lavoie 775k * 2 should leave them around 1.6mil to add a proper 4C and still have not be too tight to the cap with a 22-man roster. At the deadline once some cap space has been accrued through the season, then I could see them pursuing Pesce for a package like this. The problem is that I think Carolina is going to move him well before then.

As for your specific point about any of Broberg, Holloway, or Lavoie going out to "balance the numbers", unless you're intending to ice a 20 or 21-man roster, that's not going to save you much of anything.</div></div>

Now that makes sense!
Cheers mate.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 26, 2023 at 3:12 a.m.
Thread: Karlsson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian_O_Blivion</b></div><div>50% retention returns an elite prospect or a top 4 RHD in their prime or it doesn’t happen. Period. We need Bouchard or SJ walks. A 3x Norris winner coming off a legendary season for only 5750000 is robbery with this deal</div></div>

Let me start off by saying I personally don’t like this trade, SJ absolutely missed the boat with the Oilers trade request &amp; they’re stuck wit a piss poor defence.

Having said that, Ceci plays 37% against elites about 5-7 minutes a game vs elite players automatically making him SJ second best defensive player &amp; best RHD (Defensively)
Phillip Broberg is tracking as a top 4 Defender who plays both sides.
Also, you have no goalie……

The picks to me are ridiculous to give up to an overages player who can fall off a cliff at any minute.
Not only that, we have cost control on Bouchard for another 10 years, you have an overage player that makes 4M to much.

If I was a SJ fan the very thought of dumping that 11M contract would be paramount as an Oiler fan I’d keep both Ceci &amp; Broberg before helping the SJ sharks out of a horrible contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 23, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
Thread: oilers 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Hopefully not very long, which is why we traded Meier and are right now attempting to trade Karlsson. Vlassic says he doesn't want to be traded and Couture will be tough with his contract and probably doesn't want to go either based on interviews. Hertl will probably still be viable by the time we are competitive again but trading him isn't a bad idea if the return is good.

We are in a rebuild, so yes we will continue to suck until these magic beans start to pay off. Paying for short term players is a losing strategy for teams who are trying to completely rebuild their rosters/systems. It's like buying tickets to a concert you know you're not going to be in town for.</div></div>

You have no RHD, EK will be gone soon. Nobody in the SJ organization has said “Rebuild”, further to that you have nobody to trade.
My point is SJ fans can piss and moan about a player all day long, the fact is Grier makes that trade Ceci for a late pick) all day long.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
Thread: oilers 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Benning was solid for us last year and we're extremely happy with his contract. Kynyzhov is LD and the reason he's been up and down is due to injury. Simek Vlasic and Macdonald can all slide over to the right, but its not ideal. None of this actually matters in a discussion about whether or not the Sharks should trade for Ceci though. We shouldn't be trading for anyone who doesn't further the rebuild. Yes Cody Ceci would fit in well in SJ. If you'd like to send him over for free we'd be thankful, but otherwise we'll keep the 7th and use it to draft a player that will be with the organization longer than two years.

We're not going to win anything next year or any time soon. Cody Ceci won't change that before he walks in free agency two years from now and so he isn't worth a 7th (to the Sharks). If he's as amazing as you say I'm sure there will be a line of contenders happy to pay a 7th for him.</div></div>

Have you actually ever read the statistics of ANY player making the NHL past the 3rd round? Ceci has two years left on his contract, a normal pick takes 3-4 years to mature.
So suck it is for SJ.
How much longer do the veterans of the SJ hang around waiting for these magic beans to appear?
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2023 at 5:17 a.m.
Thread: Rumours- What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>You gave up 3 first round picks for a 1 year rental defenseman and you think that's a good deal for Edmonton? Okay then...</div></div>


Ya, almost identical to the Ekholm trade so I ‘m not sure which part has you confused?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/what-the-oilers-get-and-give-up-in-bold-trade-for-mattias-ekholm/

Oilers traded the1st round pick and 4th overall pick (Puljujarvi) in order to move money to make the Ekholm trade work.
Then they sent Reid Reid Schaefer a 1st round pick
They sent the 1st overall pick in 2023
They sent a 4th overall pick.

Let’s count the 1st overall picks together 1 - JP 2 - Schaefer 3 - the 2023 pick

Now before you say anything else, You’re going to say the JP pick went to Carolina……Yes, but Holland mentions in the article the Ekholm trade was the main reason JP was traded.
Ether way, the return on Ekholm was 2 firsts and a top ten scoring RHD.
So your giving up to much isn’t any different then what the actual team gave up.