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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 6 at 9:53 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>Del Zotto spent a huge chunk of the year assigned to Belleville, despite the Senators defense being thin. They also were shopping him, but teams only wanted him with retained salary. It is pretty clear they want to move on from Del Zotto. More likely because he isn't a fit in their room, for one reason or another.

Foligno's role in Ottawa would be to be a 4th liner who is a fantastic veteran presence in an otherwise young room. He wouldn't be brought in to be a star, those days are behind him. The Senators depth isn't all that great up front that they couldn't use a competent veteran in the 12th/13th forward spot. The Senators have also always very much wanted their young guys to have to force their way into the lineup, rather than be granted a spot. So while there are quite a few players from the AHL knocking on the door, there's nothing wrong with having a few veterans for them to have to outplay.

Should they go out and pay a premium for a veteran 4th liner when Gaudette or Gambrell could be qualified? No. But if no one will take Del Zotto, and it's salary in/salary out, there is a huge benefit to bringing a veteran like Foligno in to be the 12th/13th forward.</div></div>

Yet what team, especially a buget team wants to spend 3.5 or 3m on a 12/13th forward when they have plenty of those for 750k or 1m$. It also screws our cap over when you have to sign Stutzle, Sanderson, and Pinto where the money could be easily distrubuted and better used.

You also said it yourself that Ottawa shouldn't do this while having Gaudette and Gambrell available. So why would they detract from a week LD side where one or two injurys puts him in action. They also are paying more money long-term on the Foligno contract then they are on the Del Zotto one as a budget team.

The idea looks okay on the surface but when you actually go in and break it down for both teams it doesn't really make sense.

Ottawa to take this and deal Del Zotto would need a sweetener coming back like a mid round pick.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 5 at 3:29 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>This trade sheds cap space for Boston, and is better cap wise than buying out Foligno. Ottawa is a budget team, so they do not care about cap implications because they are unlikely to exceed the cap ceiling. This trade is real money salary neutral for Ottawa. They do not want to keep Del Zotto. They value adding a veteran presence to their 4th line. This comes at no extra cost to them since Foligno's remaining salary would be subsidized by dumping Del Zotto on Boston. Seems like a win/win to me.

-This trade saves Boston over 1M in cap (2M if Del Zotto is buried in the AHL).
-This trade is salary neutral for Ottawa. Ottawa is a budget team, therefore they care about real money salary, not cap space.
-Michael Del Zotto makes 2.25M in real money against a 2M cap hit.
-Foligno makes 2.8M against a 3.8M cap hit AFTER Boston pays his 1M signing bonus.
-Boston retains 20 percent of Foligno's cap hit. This is 760k in cap and 560k in base salary.
-Boston clears just over a million in cap space while moving on from a veteran who has played his way out of their lineup. If they bury Del Zotto, they can bring this total up to approx. 2 million, which is better than the buyout that puts roughly 2 million on the books in year 1 and 933k in year 2.
-The trade is cap neutral for the Senators. They get rid of a problem in Del Zotto. They add a veteran forward who can play on their 4th line. They do not have as much depth as Boston so Foligno is more likely to find a home in their lineup.</div></div>

I like you're explanation and it would bring Foligno back to the team that drafted him. (Yes, Ottawa drafted him)

Yet they really don't have a need for bottom six forwards or middle six forwards and Del Zotto provides depth on a pretty thin left side.

For those reasons Ottawa declines.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 5 at 7:03 a.m.