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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

Thread: 88s united

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>One reason there are few franchise goalie trades…is teams owning goalie won’t feel like market pays full price for goalie. Look at history of goalie deals…especially for goalies without term. It’s underwhelming.

I have posted many times on here before.</div></div>

The Keumper trade you cited literally proved my point. Ullmark is a better goalie than Keumper and will, therefore, get moved for more.

Right now, Gavrikov is not worth as much as a top-100 prospect, and the king's first-rounder is likely a later pick (especially with Ullmark in net).

According to your own blueprint (the Keumper trade), this deal is in line with historical comparisons.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.

Thread: zzzzzzzzzz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>:laugh If William Nylander was willing to sign for $9,000,000 per he'd already be re-signed by now.

And Linus Ullmark doesn't waive for any Canadian team either.</div></div>

Maybe Willy just doesn't want to be in Toronto

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.

Thread: 88s united

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>It’s more than what Hasek got when he got dealt (with 1-year in deal) after winning 6-of-8 last Vezina trophies.

Goalies don’t return much in trade value.</div></div>

Use a comparison that happened this century.

That's like using the Gretzky trade as a blueprint for what a Mcdavid trade would look like.

Franchise goalies are rarely on the market, and when they are, a team isn't moving one unless you make it worth it to them.

The fact is LA needs a goalie to have any consistent playoff success, and boston won't move half of the best goalie tandem in the NHL unless its worth it to them.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2023 at 1:04 a.m.

Thread: Elias

Same value as the Horvat trade; sorry to break it to you, but the Flames are not going to get a boatload of goods for Lindholm.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 5, 2023 at 1:26 a.m.

Thread: 88s united

Ullmark gets ridiculously underrated on this website. He's the reigning Vezina winner and has a .926 this year. He is a franchise goalie.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 25, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.

Thread: Youth Movment

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluetomorrow83</b></div><div>Oilers decline. Hall is not the player the Oilers are looking for. Also there's a handful of wingers in the league worth 3 first round pick equivalent and Hall is not one of them.</div></div>

Broberg has hit a stunt in his development, Borgualt is a mid-late first rounder and your first is likely mid-late as well. It's two late firsts and a project for Hall. Price is likely a little steep, but I think BOS does get significant assets back for Hall.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.

Thread: No more overages read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>It’s unbelievable to me that he would just completely make this up and think it would slip by. I also don’t get why he would do this.</div></div>

Watch Sweeney's post trade deadline interview.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.

Thread: Crazyness year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bensartena</b></div><div>Is Fabian Lysell the best prospect in the NHL because if he's not the Coyotes decline in a heartbeat</div></div>

considering what Arizona ended up getting they take that in a heartbeat.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.

Thread: Crazyness year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>Have you just not watched any bruins games this year?

He’s been fantastic in that role. Scores more at 5 on 5 (and just scores more goals in general) than your boy boeser. More physical. Better defensively.</div></div>

Boeser has 29 even strength points this year on a struggling Canucks team, that's roughly how many total points Freddy is projected to get all season. Boeser is playing worse because of his team and would likely blossom in a bruins uniform, similar to Hall. Yes, Freddy has taken steps this year, but he is better as a mismatch on the 4th line than a "?" on the 3rd line.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.

Thread: Crazyness year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>Adding boeser means losing pastrnak. Hard pass.

The bruins have their 3RW. They’re set.</div></div>

Freddy is still ideally a 4th liner, he's on pace for 30 points this year and was invisible in the playoffs last year. Love Freddy, but he isn't a 3rd liner yet.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: Crazyness year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>You are correct. This is crazy.</div></div>

yup, I think we should just get a 3rd line RW, maybe even buy low on Boeser but Chychrun is 100% off the table.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.

Thread: All in wMeier

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>Filler garbage offer</div></div>

better than what you got LMAO

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2023 at 11:28 p.m.

Thread: Third Line RW

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DefenseFirst</b></div><div>I wouldn’t call it a need.

There is absolutely no chance that nosek is out of the lineup if healthy.</div></div>

Don't get me wrong, I value Nosek as a player. However, I could see him slotting in and out of the lineup toward the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. In this scenario, the bruins have 5 proven 4th liners and Kopanen waiting in the wings. I could see a physical 4th line like the one shown above in a playoff series against a team susceptible to a heavy forecheck, and maybe a 4th line with Nosek against a team reliant on the PP.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: Horvat rumors

I would do that if the deal comes with an extension. I don't think we give up Lysell for a rental.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.

Thread: Make Kuz a bruin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bogdown</b></div><div>Starts with Lysell or Carlo. Canucks have zero interest in picks and would probably like to re-sign Kuzmenko. Gonna take a lot more than a cap dump in a slump and some late picks for Kuzmenko AND Schenn. Might as well gift you the cup again.</div></div>

I would not trade Lysell OR Carlo 1 for 1 for Kuz. If VAN hangs onto him-fine, but he isn't as proven as many Canucks fans think he is.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 1:12 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Canucks got a third round pick for a worse, and 4 times more expensive player in Travis Hamonic last season.</div></div>

the trade market is weird, I'll give you that. There is no use in debating where gms value a certain player. In my personal opinion, Schenn is worth a 4th, maybe a 3rd.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 1:10 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>What do you reckon Horvat will get then? 48 points, 30 goals in 44 games (On pace for 62 points, 39 goals, in 57 games</div></div>

Always loved Horvat, but I couldn't see Boston trading for him, given his looming free agency. However, he probably gets a first, an A or A- Prospect, and a solid roster player with upside (someone like Pavel Zacha in Boston's case). Could also see more picks, and B tier prospects being added.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 1:06 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>If duds like Jeremy Lauzon can get a second, I don't see why Schenn cant</div></div>

Because Schenn is old and Lauzon had some upside, if Schenn was 23 with decent upside, I am sure he could get a 2nd, but given the fact he is 33 and can really only get worse it is probably closer to a 3rd or 4th.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Meant either a 2nd alone or a 3rd + later round pick, not a 2nd + 3rd</div></div>

Got it. Still don't see anyone giving up a 2nd. Maybe a 3rd and a 7th at most.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 1:02 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>On what planet is Giroux anywhere near Kanes value? Kane is by far a better player than Giroux a future hall of famer. He'll get far better than your proposal mark my words.</div></div>

Giroux's stats before being traded last year: 42 points, 18 goals in 57 games (keep in mind he is not a defensive liability like Kane)

Kane's states this year: 28 points, 8 goals in 39 games (on pace for 41 points, 12 goals in 57).

Kane has roughly the same point totals Giroux had while being worse defensively.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 12:56 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Without Reilly the Canucks consider that, although some teams may pay a 2nd or a 3rd and another later pick</div></div>

Schenn is ideally a 7th d man on a contending team. Nobody is giving up a 2nd (in the most stacked draft class in recent memory, no less) AND a 3rd for a depth piece.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 12:53 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>And both are worthless like Smith, Hawks will get a far better offer for Kane. Just because he gets to pick and choose his team. Doesn't diminish his return.</div></div>

Giroux trade says otherwise. Kane is not the top commodity this deadline, there is not going to be a huge bidding war for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 12:51 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Canucks dont have the cap space</div></div>

Canucks are moving core players this offseason they'll have space.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 12:50 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>Canucks can get more for Schenn</div></div>

Most I would do is a 3rd and Reilly

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19, 2023 at 12:50 a.m.

Thread: Add a 3rd line RW read descreption

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Reilly went on waivers unclaimed, Going to take more than a 4th round pick to move him.</div></div>

Maybe a third, not a big deal honestly, the point of the armchair gm is to show bruins depth options and why it is important for them to get a legit playoff tested forward, not getting a Luke Schenn-Mike Reilly swap down to the perfect value

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