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Joe_La_Garnotte

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Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Hoffman could get back a 2nd with a decent season. And if Pitt falls in the top 10 I don't mind a 2025 First with Pitts aging core. They'll likely only get worst, and potentially not enough cap to re-sign Guentzal, making that unprotected first even lower.

And most importantly only 1.5 retention??? That's absolutely wild. We knew the haul woul dbe a lot less with very little retention and that's what we got here. Fair deal all around IMO</div></div>

Hoffman isn't getting back a 2nd. He hasn't been good in 4 years. He'll likely get a mid round pick retained, and San Jose only has 1 retained spot left, so are they going to use it on him? I doubt it.

Yeah, the retention is low, I'm assuming that's why the package wasn't as good as it could've been.
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 15, 2023 at 8:57 p.m.
Thread: Tampa Bay Lightning signed Tanner Jeannot (2 Years / $2,665,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenkins</b></div><div><strong>When you just traded this:</strong>

- Round <strong>1</strong> selection (014 overall)
- Round <strong>1</strong> selection (016 overall) <em>*estimate*</em>
- Round <strong>2</strong> selection (048 overall) <em>*estimate*</em>
- Round <strong>3</strong> selection (083 overall)
- Round <strong>4</strong> selection (115 overall)
- Round <strong>5</strong> selection (147 overall)

for a guy you could re-sign for 2.6 million

and everyone still thinks you overpaid

<strong>You know you dun messed up.</strong></div></div>

I don't think it's right to say that the package included a 14th overall pick. The fact that Foote was the 14th overall pick in 2017 doesn't mean he's equivalent to that now. Nashville let him go without a qualifying offer, so apparently he was the least valuable part of the package, not the most valuable as your list would have us believe.

However, even if you strike him from the list, I still see your point.