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Joekings09
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread:
Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>Interesting observation : With that Winnipeg trade, it leaves Kupari as the only right handed forward(other than F&emo who will be out of waivers)on the roster. Conversely, most of the forwards in Ontario from what I recall are right handed. I just found it interesting and felt the need to say it out loud. Lol</div></div>
It's been a problem for a while, and one of the reasons why Vilardi being involved in trade rumors didn't make much sense. However, if Vilardi is playing hardball in contract negotiations as rumored, he's buying himself a one-way ticket to Winnipeg.
A lot of Kings fans are speculating that the Kings are floating the "Vilardi for PLD" rumor to scare Vilardi into signing a team friendly extension.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
Thread:
Conspiracy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>I’ve heard this theory more than once and with the whole back and forth offer sheets between Carolina and Montreal when Bergervin was GM and now he’s in LA, seems at least a little plausible. Idk but it makes for some interesting water cooler talk amongst the rest of us on here</div></div>
It would be a brilliant chess move ahaha.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
Thread:
LA Win Mon
We can't afford Hellebuyck's full cap hit this year. He'd have to be 50% retained. THEN we can talk about Gabe Vilardi, which is a NO.
I echo my esteemed friend <a href="/users/tryger" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@tryger</a>'s suspicion that our primary goalie targets are either a cheapie or Linus Ullmark.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 25, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
Thread:
LA Win Mon
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Sorry, I meant to add an extension on Hellebuyuk for the 6-7 mil range on a 5 year deal. I know he wants more but I just don't see it right now</div></div>
If Helle took that sort of deal that could very well work. But all signs to me seem like he’s going to test free agency.
From the LA perspective, Blake just spent assets to get out of Petersens contract, spent a 3rd to get Portillo, and signed the penguins old goalie coach.
I feel like LA is looking for a 1-2 year contract (so Blake doesn’t get burned again) with a goalie who would be an upgrade over Korpisalo and work with the new goalie coach. Could be totally wrong here, but I think the Kings are interested in either an old penguins goalie or a rental like Ullmark.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread:
Difficult Decisions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>The easy answer is time to allow Byfield to develop into the Center the team drafted him to be. He’s a bit behind on his development due to injuries mainly so PLD entering his prime could become the # 1 center when Kopitar retires and Danault can slot into the 3C and hopefully Byfield could at least be the 2C by then. I’m apprehensive about him being unsatisfied too but Columbus and Winnipeg as markets leave a lot to be desired. Not sure how it will shake out but it’s fun to pretend on here so why not</div></div>
I’d rather hold out for Byfield to improve. He made the first line better in the second half and has a much higher ceiling than PLD.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread:
Difficult Decisions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>Is it though? Two 2nds seems like too much.</div></div>
its close, maybe a bit too much. But looking at his numbers and cap hit for next year/team control its not far off.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
Thread:
Difficult Decisions
Fair value for Durzi, Wild could accept if the move on from Addison.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
Difficult Decisions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div></div>
"No, Arvidsson and Iafallo are bad contracts. Both are 30 or close to it, don't produce to their contract value and only have one year of term. Turcotte has been around long enough to be what he is. It's an extreme longshot that he gets much better.
With multiple teams bidding on PLD the Jets won't have to settle for a package that just makes them older and worse. They will get something they want.
Trades don't work like fans want them to. It won't be a bunch of pieces that you couldn't care less about losing because you realize they have little value, hence why you offer them, there will be at least one piece you don't want to lose. [/quote] "
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This is wrong. Per The Athletic's player value models Arvidsson was worth $3.7 million in surplus value last year. Iafallo generated $3.6 million in surplus value. Those metrics can vary from methodology to methodology, but there is no world in which those are bad contracts. None.
I'm not saying that two very-good-but-not-young-and-soon-expiring-contract players are specifically what WPG is going to want for PLD, but its not because the contracts are bad and you wouldn't want them on your team. They absolutely make the Kings better (as they would any team). As a Kings fan I would be very VERY bummed if we had to jettison both those guys (and frankly, they are so valuable to the team I don't think they will move both). I am sad that we probably will have to lose one of them to make sure we get a #1 goalie.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread:
lowkey solid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>Lol
That’s gonna be a “no” from the Sabres
Those guys have no value, and we’d have no interest</div></div>
Blake Lizotte has been our fourth-line center for two years, wins over 50% of his faceoffs, and is better than anyone you're going to put there on your team this season.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.
Thread:
calg
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>Kempe is a top six winger so if you were to play on Calgarys third line then this trade would make no sense. But it would make sense in the event that Calgary cannot keep Gaudreau, Thachuk , and Mangiapane. Well of course you guys wouldn't trade him one for one, you're desperate to have him play on your middle pairing with Tanev.Otherwise you would just be overvaluing him in comparison to Kempe</div></div>
I did this assuming Gaudreau is gone. Kempe could play on the right wt Tkachuk and Lindholm. And the flames have Hanifin Zodorov and Valimaki on left
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
Thread:
ARZ LA TOR Draft Day Blockbuster Leafs POV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>You also have to take into consideration that a it pertains to Nylander, Dubas will not be dealing from a position of strength as much as desperation. 5 first round exit and it's compounded with the overall pressure of succeeding in Toronto. What's overall stats a lot of his underlying stats were some of the best of his career. The three previous seasons the team wasn't very good so that couldn't have helped and I am sure Dubis would be getting him because of his playoff résumé. Because of his competitive nature and playoff experience he would be someone that could probably get them at least to the second round and would also probably play well in front of a very good Toronto team.</div></div>
Yeah, that's why the Leafs aren't getting full value in terms of trade value for Nylander and Sandin. It's like overpaying for rentals on trade deadline, If it works then it's great. The Leafs are also getting some cap flexibility, which could allow them to make this trade more favorable towards them potentially.
I think trading Nylander away and trading for Quick is kind of a desperate move, but Dubas is in an extension year, so if it's another first round exit, he's probably not back. Blake and Armstrong don't have to worry about their jobs.
The frame of this trade does give all 3 GMs what they want, they will have to battle for who get the advantage if any in terms of straight trade value in regards to the pieces involved.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
Makes too much sense
I think that any eventual Chychrun-to-the-Kings trade is going to look substantially like this one. You can debate Walker vs Grans, or Turcotte vs Vilardi, or Andersson vs Anderson-Dolan or Spence, but these four elements seem reasonable and realistic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2022 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun deal with Vilardi and Bjornfot
Bjornfot will not be traded for Chychrun. It defeats the purpose of making the trade. They're looking to add another LHD to their stable, not simply upgrade on one of their existing guys. If they trade Bjornfot, they still have a long-term gap at LHD moving forward.
The Kings have a ton of quality RHD prospects, replace Bjornfot with one of them (not Faber or Clarke) and then the trade would make sense for LA.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun deal with Vilardi and Bjornfot
The Kings and the Coyotes line up really well - LA has a glut of prospects that are near NHL-ready without enough seats at the table. Half their defensemen are on their ELC and any of those three would be a great start for a Chychurn package. If you don't want Vilardi or Andersson, you can easily swap in Turcotte instead. Does Armstrong like Kaliyev instead? Fine, there's another guy right behind him that can step up and succeed in his spot.
I honestly think you could tell Armstrong "Pick 3, no Byfield" and you'll find common ground that doesn't ruin LA's system and gives Arizona some NHL-ready guys to develop. If another team is getting close for a Chych deal, it won't be hard for LA to top it either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
Thread:
Chychrun deal with Vilardi and Bjornfot
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>If you take anything you see on the internet as a legit rumor, then sure.
We can use logic here though. Of course that isn’t true.</div></div>
Ok bud.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2022 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread:
Makes too much sense
Don't think Andersson gets the job done. He's not a quality asset anymore. Replace him with a RHD prospect not named Clarke or Faber.
I think LA would rather move Turcotte than Vilardi. Insiders suggest that Vilardi won't be moved this season. Not sure if this is a hill Blake is willing to die on though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 22, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.
Thread:
If Byram is healthy
LA isn't ready to trade Roy yet. His potential replacements aren't NHL ready. Maybe at the deadline next season.
Swap Roy for Walker and the Kings might consider it, as Walker has been made expendable by Sean Durzi.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 21, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread:
How do they get under cap -- and under roster limit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>Well if they can't "conveniently" wait until after the deadline to Eichel back , then maybe they can wait/have to wait to get Pacioretty back. Then trade McNabb and you're within a $500,000 difference which is manageable I'm sure. Then your D pairings could be Theodore-Pietrangelo, Martinez-Coghlan, and Hague-Whitecloud ideally. All in a perfect world of course</div></div>
Or just use LTIR and a de facto taxi squad like Tampa Bay did last year.
I still think someone will ultimately pay the price for that though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 10, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
Habs trade with Bergevin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>& here in reality, we don't speak as if we know. We realize that we have opinions and cannot speak for someone else as if we knew or could read their minds. Just something to keep in mind for your future comments though.</div></div>
I'm not speaking for someone else, I'm speaking for myself. Don't you understand the whole point of CapFriendly? It's a fantasy website.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 12, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.
Thread:
Arizona Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roysboy72</b></div><div>That's a good collection of prospects and picks, but I'd think Arizona would want a young LHD coming back. It looks like Maatta is really only there for cap reasons, and I don't see him making much of an impact in Arizona anyway, so I think a defense prospect would probably be the best way to sweeten this kind of deal. Chychrun is one of the few members of Arizona's young core (and best defenseman on the team by far), so he'd likely be hard to pry away from them, especially right after his huge breakout season. I can only imagine much worse they'd get from losing him, and they're already projected to be in the bottom 3 lol.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joekings09</b></div><div>As a King fan, I don’t mind this deal. I believe it’s close but probably an NHL ready D-man to replace Chuychern right away. Maybe Bjornfot or Clague or both. Just spit balling here. I also don’t believe they ever trade Akil Thomas. I think they’re really high on him and would sacrifice most of their other prospects before trading himself</div></div>
LA is in a great spot, where they have a great prospect at every position, they could easily make this work. AZ trading Dvorak, likely selling Kessel at the deadline, and moving Keumper tells me they're heading towards another long term rebuild. Chychrun trade expedites that quite quickly with the return they'd get.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 12, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.
Thread:
Kaprizov to Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>maybe if a kaprizov long term deal is already in place. No one is giving up a ton for him with the chance he leaves for russia</div></div>
Laughable comment from Chicago fan
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 3, 2021 at 1:57 a.m.
Thread:
move to wing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>You guys somehow finished lower than our COVID Canucks though…. Do you really want me to do a line by line analysis showing how the Canucks are better?</div></div>
See Kings were 3-13 vs Vegas and Colorado,other than that they were 18-15-6 vs other teams,including Minnesotta and St Louis, who were equal teams to the Canadean division, if the Kings were in Canada they could have made the playoffs. No need to do analysis, I know both rosters well, Canucks have a slightly better offense, Kings have a slightly better defense, Goaltending is equal, we'll see when we clash on the ice.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2021 at 7:38 p.m.
Thread:
Free agency
I'm fine with everything except Parise. I'd rather just give that spot to Kupari.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.
Thread:
Final offer for Eichel
Try this:
Turcotte + Fa g emo + Kupari + 2022 1st for Eichel
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr. 21, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread:
run for eichel
Each fanbase has a certain element that is incapable of evaluating its own players realistically. That segment of Buffalo fans that thinks EIchel = Draisaitl or MacKinnon has conflated Kevyn Adams' expressed desire for (i.e., negotiating tactic of announcing) "four first-round picks or the equivalent" into four first-overall-pick equivalents as the proper price for the unhappy and now injured center. It's not going to happen. Los Angeles isn't trading Byfield, or both of Turcotte and Vilardi, for Eichel. Nor are the Rangers trading LaFreniere or Kakko for him, nor Anaheim Zegras or Drysdale, nor Minnesota Kaprizov or Rossi.
The trade shown is fair value, although I don't think Kempe fits Buffalo all that well (I would substitute Kale Clague). Los Angeles shouldn't give up more, and I have a sneaking suspicion that what Buffalo eventually receives for Eichel if they actually trade him will be less.
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