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Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 15, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
Thread: Tampa Bay Lightning signed Tanner Jeannot (2 Years / $2,665,000 AAV)
Lots of hyperbole on this contract. It is a fair contract for a physical middle 6 winger that has 25 goal scoring upside. Dunk on the trade all you want but this contract is totally fair and is no way an "overpay".

It's not like he got an Anthony Mantha type deal here.

Mathieu Joseph got $2.95 mil from Ottawa last year
David Kampf got $2.4 million in Toronto
Morgan Geekie got $2 million from a cap-strapped Bruins team
Zemgus Girgensons got $2.5 million from Buffalo while Victor Oloffson got $4,750,000 last year for being a ~25 goal scorer
Daniel Sprong and Klim Kostin got $2 million each from Detroit
Kasperi Kapanen makes $3.2 million

Tanner Jeannot is a great value at $2.6 million under any circumstance compared to those players above.
Forum: NHLJul. 5, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread: 2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #3 - Free Agent Frenzy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pompadour_de_Armstrong</b></div><div>Honestly I think Karlsson won't return much more than that. The contract is just a killer. No third team is going to want to retain for four years any more than the Sharks want to. Especially after the way Arizona lost it's retention slot for a decade when a buyout happened on a declining defenseman. Last year was the first year he's been healthy and got a full season in forever. And he put up monster numbers, but can a team expect him to repeat that after two very bad and short seasons preceding it? And he's 33, so I'd expect heavy regression to the EK we've seen the previous two years. Before this season, he was considered immovable.
If I was Grier, I'd be thanking EK for his monster season and shipping him out for almost anything just to get out from under the $39 million real dollars and the cap tied up for the next four years. Imagine being tied up til the summer of 2027 with 11.5M in a 37 year old EK.
EK wants out. The Sharks want him out. I think the deal will be very underwhelming considering the year he just had. Even at $8M, I think the next team will regret it by year two.</div></div>

Agreed. I also think that while his point totals were certainly eye-popping; the situation in San Jose and their lack of competitiveness gave him a green light to be entertaining, aggressive, and ignore his defensive responsibilities because they WEREN'T TRYING TO WIN. Now, this does not mean EK can't be better defensively elsewhere; but that also means you can't expect 100 point totals if he does that.

A team that lacks an offensive defenseman and needs a jolt to their Power Play should certainly be interested; but putting him into a new situation also should change the expectations (which is why teams aren't breaking the bank to get him).
Forum: NHLJul. 5, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
Thread: 2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #3 - Free Agent Frenzy
Honestly I think Karlsson won't return much more than that. The contract is just a killer. No third team is going to want to retain for four years any more than the Sharks want to. Especially after the way Arizona lost it's retention slot for a decade when a buyout happened on a declining defenseman. Last year was the first year he's been healthy and got a full season in forever. And he put up monster numbers, but can a team expect him to repeat that after two very bad and short seasons preceding it? And he's 33, so I'd expect heavy regression to the EK we've seen the previous two years. Before this season, he was considered immovable.
If I was Grier, I'd be thanking EK for his monster season and shipping him out for almost anything just to get out from under the $39 million real dollars and the cap tied up for the next four years. Imagine being tied up til the summer of 2027 with 11.5M in a 37 year old EK.
EK wants out. The Sharks want him out. I think the deal will be very underwhelming considering the year he just had. Even at $8M, I think the next team will regret it by year two.
Forum: Arizona CoyotesJun. 28, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
Thread: I LOVE the Coyotes first round tonight!
Besides from entertainment value alone from the internet scouts behind keyboards who think they know more than fully funded scouting departments who do this for a living, there are 3 main reasons why:

The Coyotes are one of the only teams to have a full time scout in Russia, and have lots of boots on the ground in regards to scouting in the region in general. Given how a lot of teams didn't really scout Russia based on the current political climate within the country, the fact that the team felt confident enough to draft two players from the SAME team with their two top twelve picks shows just how much of slam dunk picks they think these two are.

I love the positional value of these two. The team has 3.5 legit NHL Dmen on their roster (Moser, Valimaki, Durzi, Brown) and 3 prospects who may have a chance at doing something someday (Soderstrom, Kolyachonok, Kesselring) and even then they are not top pairing guys in the slightest. The defenseman prospect pool is completely barren with no blue chip guys, and Simashev is going to fill that void. As for But, a goal scoring power forward is always going to be in demand, especially during the playoffs.

And finally, mock drafts and general consensus and big boards mean jack squat. I don't care about trade downs or rankings or whatever, the Coyotes thought that these two were their guys and they took them, which I respect. Bill Armstrong has a proven scouting record and the organization has many veteran scouts on their staff, I'm putting my faith in the guys who do it for a living and the team that spends money to do this stuff than whatever some guy watching 2 minute clips says online. I am very excited to follow these two and can't wait to see them in the desert.
Forum: NHLJun. 24, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
Thread: 2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #2 - The Salepocalypse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>You can't debate the point so you resort to profanity and name calling. Pathetic, yet entirely predictable. It's because you know you're wrong and you can't possibly defend politicizing the NHL. It's over. You lost. Move on.

Also, the fact that your profane response was allowed to stay posted is a little disconcerting, to say the least.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>I hate Bettman as much as the next guy, but I 100% support him here. Even without getting into a whole debate about the whole pride movement itself (which for the record I don’t support but that’s irrelevant), it was clearly only causing problems. Explain to me how it’s good for anyone on either side when all the media talks about is these guys not wearing the jerseys. It’s just causing unnecessary controversy. This is sports, the place that is supposed to be politics free.</div></div>

My existence is not political.
Forum: NHLJun. 23, 2023 at 1:42 a.m.
Thread: 2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #2 - The Salepocalypse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>LeBrun has it backwards. He's the one dissenting. The overwhelming majority of fans and players do not want this stuff in the game. Notice how few will protest this decision. I don't see how no longer forcing players to play politics on the ice is a step backwards, as he puts it.</div></div>

I mean, most of the specialty jerseys weren't necessarily political. Nothing political about Cancer awareness, pride, Indigenous history, black history, etc is inherently political. Plus, these nights are still happening, they just aren't platforming the jerseys which is a huge shame. The unique practice designs were always really fun and gave artists the opportunity to have their work honored.

Not really sure why the change was made in this way. It's certainly not as big of a deal as many people are making it out to be, it just kinda stinks
Forum: NHLJun. 22, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.