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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread: Hellebuyck to NJD Jets trade up PLD to MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>I agree. Plus, if you're the gm that trades too much for him, you are probably under extra internal pressure to sign him to an extension. Wanna guess what that looks like? It looks like a Carey price/bobrowski special. I don't care if my team picks him up as a rental, for say a 24 first and maybe some stuff that's lying around, but I would much rather shop in the ufa bin than pay any more than that.</div></div>

UFA goalie shopping is not a good idea either. This coming year your headliners are Andersen, Jarry, and Varlamov. Not only is Hellebuyck better than all 3 of them, the contract probably wouldn't be too much more expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if Andersen and Jarry each get 7M, even though I don't think they're worth it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread: Hellebuyck to NJD Jets trade up PLD to MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>No, NJ should not be trading all that for a rental, nor a goalie over 30. Helle is great right now, but a term on a deal going forward is depreciating value.</div></div>

I gotta ask, why not? To me a goalie is the biggest piece you're missing, and Hellebuyck fills that hole quite nicely? Sure he's not the youngest anymore, but you're gonna have some older players on a cup winning team. I think this move pushes your team to a top 2 team in the East, and to be honest, the return isn't all that high for an elite goalie. And in terms of the contract, I mentioned he'd come with an extension. Doesn't have to be long term. I really don't see the downside from NJD's POV, you won't be worried about losing the 2nd, and Hellebuyck is a huge upgrade on Schmid. Holtz is the big piece, and even then there are already concerns about his future with NJ.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread: Patty Cake
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Would take more then a Rich Peverley trade to fix this team.

Chevys failure has been not trading for guys with term, plenty of good players that don't have trade protection but he's very inactive.

Also his drafting outside of round 1 has been pretty meh.</div></div>

Drafting is Chevy's biggest strength. Lowry in round 3 2011, Helle round 5 2012, Copp round 4 2013, Appleton round 6 2015, Samberg round 2, Kovacevic round 3 2017, Chibrikov round 2, Rashevsky round 5 2021, Salomonsson round 2, Zhilkin round 3, Wagner 6 2022. Feel like we've got a lot to show for later rounds than most teams. Round 1 also is 100% a strength with picks like Scheifele, Trouba, Morrissey, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, and some more recent ones
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
Thread: Patty Cake
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Legit top 6 forwards- Scheifele, Connor, Ehlers, Dubois
3rd liner- Wheeler
4th liner- Lowry
*Injured- Perfetti (middle six winger)


Top 4 dman- Morrissey
Are the rest really any better then 3rd pair dmen?

Helle (Having a Vezina season but I don't think he can save this tire fire)

I'd say they're pretty far from a complete team.</div></div>

So trade for the missing pieces. Trade for a top 4 dman, and 2 middle six scorers. Trade this year's 1st, Heinola, and one of Lucius or McGroarty to make it happen. If we don't push now, we'll be a WC team forever. Guys like McGroarty, Lucius, Lambert will just drag us into playoffs, then we'll lose round 1, and get pick 16-20. Push now, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. THEN you can rebuild all you want, if PLD, Scheif, Helle, all these guys want out, fine rebuild. But right now we have absolutely no reason to. We're 2nd in the central. You don't see Dallas overreacting, and they're on a 5 game losing streak. Teams get cold sometimes, even Boston was for a little bit. Also Lowry is not a 4th liner, he's a solid 3C.