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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 1:10 p.m.
Thread:
Taking the Next Step
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SociallyHawkward</b></div><div>For 2 years, you can double it and still be fine.</div></div>
If you were to do that much for a short term deal, I would rather try Monahan for a $7 million plus contract as he is a more natural center. Fair point on needing to add more for Stephenson though.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
Thread:
So we got Bedard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>What will we do at 20?</div></div>
If i had my way, I would package the 19th overall pick and a second rounder to move up to pick up Ryan Leonard. He is the engine on the NTDP's top line. Strong two way payer looks like a top 6 winger who plays at both ends of the ice.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
Thread:
Laff
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>It's a risk reward trade FOR SURE. The Hawks have the cap space now. The Rangers might not be able to keep all their young player as is.</div></div>
Don't mind the trade at all, but I would try signing him after that trade to a prove it deal of 2 years $3.5 million. If I am Davidson, i would be saving cap space to kick tires on AM34 or Debrincat if either get to free agency in summer of 24.
Wouldn't be shocked to see Domi back either this year.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2023 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
So we got Bedard
It was a worry, but what free agent are you bringing in this class to help with it? The only one besides Domi I like and i don't think the Hawks would commit to him would be Zucker. My thought process if Davidson and this is my team is I kick the tires on AM34 when he hits free agency while still adding probably a top 5 talent next year.
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
Laff
Interesting concept to trade for Lafreniere. Don't think NYR fires Gallant to trade him though as i would assume you fire the coach to try getting someone to develop that asset. If you acquired him, i would not sign him to a long-term deal as given his production $5.5 million is steep.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2023 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Tank Year 2
Missed that he was on LTIR.... if that is the case he is not getting traded, but i can't see Myers accepting a trade to Chicago. He was the original cap dump, I thought about.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 20, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
Thread:
Were having a Fire Sale
I've seen a few places link Kane such as 4th period and others. It makes sense to me since they're looking for more Top 6 scoring, but Cap hit makes that trade hard
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuilding Chicago
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseOfTastykakes</b></div><div>There would be no need for the Flyers to give up their 2nd in the trade with Chicago if they could just go to New Jersey and gain a 2nd, by your trade logic.</div></div>
Not all trades in this situation happen at the same time. The second trade is a deadline trade and NJ will not want to pay $7 million where Phil is looking to dump the whole cap. Comparatively, NJ has made it clear they want to push for a playoff spot and they lack wingers. They easily could make that deal at the deadline and again Flyers get the full cap dump minus the cap hit of a young player coming back.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 2, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread:
Davidsons Rebuild
Understand declining for both, but for Francouz whose also expiring they'd be insane to turn that down. Even Frank Saervelli connected Avs to Fluery.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 21, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
Thread:
Fixing Bowmans Mess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Just re: Vegas-They can't even afford to tender a contract to Kubalik this offseason. Don't see how that works.
A quick run through though (Just my personal opinions):
-I'd be 50/50 as the Leafs...
-I'd decline if I was the Oilers. I love MAF, but everyone is blaming this on goaltending when there's a heck of a lot more wrong in Edmonton than that (Bottom 6, lack of defence). MAF might raise the ceiling a bit, but even getting into the playoffs is a long shot at this point.
-I'd accept if I was Boston. DeBrusk's QO is outrageous...he's a non-tender candidate, regardless of what wild trades people make involving him.
-Sure for Florida. Why not? De Haan wouldn't be a bad option for their left side either...
-"Meh" on Gustafsson...he's no better than he was last year, when the Flyers got a 7th for him (with 50% retention!).</div></div>
On Vegas, they're so focused on winning the cup that they take the help for this year and pay the price for shedding a contract which they have to shed just to ice their roster this year. They will have to make extra difficult choices in the offseason whether thats trading McNabb, Karlsson, or one of their top scorers like Max.
Fair point on Edmonton both of you. The pick would have to be protected on their side and they have issues with depth scoring and need another defender. You could argue they could use pretty much of any of the big three MAF, Kubliak or DeHaan. It depends if Holland feels like this season has to be saved or if they're better keeping their draft capital.
Even better point on Gustaffsson, I forgot he went for a 7th last year. You could argue his season is better this year than last, but given the trade last year, hard to get that much of a jump in value without something closer to his 60 point season.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
Thread:
Chicago no Longer Runs on Duncan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DrumMan44</b></div><div>Both Suter deals look a little light on AAV</div></div>
Perhaps. Pius i i think is priced right given the weird nature of when and where he scored. Ryan Suter i think you can convince to take a discount given that he is still getting paid alot of money by the Wild to not play for him. Maybe with the rest of these pieces he takes that discount, but that is certainly not a given.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
Thread:
Chicago no Longer Runs on Duncan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Much rather have Suter
Large overpay for Hamilton
What happens next year when the Hawks only have $6.5M in cap space space with Kubalik, Dach, BoQ, Lankinen, Kurashev, Murphy, Kalynuk all needing new contracts? MAF falls off which begs the question why would you pick him up and give up a very good player in Suter?</div></div>
Hamilton is looking for and will get Pietranglo money. His analytics support it as well. On MAF you're getting him for one year to determine if Lankinen can be a #1 to either Commasseo or one of the two goalies in this draft are ready to play. Plus Suter scored most of his goals/points against weaker teams and only scored once on the road.
In terms of next year you have almost $27 million to pay those players with Dach likely getting a bridge deal and Boquist getting a modest pay bump to no more than $3. Kalynukk and Kurashev haven't proven anything yet to make themselves expenses resigning. Murphy and Kubliak could take more, but you have plenty of money and other options like buying out Connelly.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild Moves Forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Nick Holden cleared waivers in March. If the Hawks (or any team) wanted him they could have had him for free. That's not a very good trade for CHI at all.</div></div>
Wasn't aware he was on waivers. Good point on the trade!
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2021 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Lights
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>So, in exchange for an elite 1C, Vegas gives up their elite 1D, a 1st and Glass? If that's the ask, nobody is going to bite.</div></div>
Vegas has two elite #1D and Glass couldn't crack the line up when Stephenson was hurt. They put Nosek at top 6 center rather than try him for a game when they needed scoring.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild Moves Forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot723</b></div><div>Yes from NYI. You could even change the pick to deHaan if you want.</div></div>
I personally like DeHaan, but i think Seattle takes him and then flips him for picks.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Lights
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>Theodore would be a non starter</div></div>
They're rumored for Eichel so gotta give to get an elite 1c in the league.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 30, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
Thread:
Embrace the Tank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>As a pens fan, I would rather see them go for Soderberg as we need a 3C but with the way that GMJR does business... we may be overpaying for another dman :grimace</div></div>
If I am Stan Bowman they would be the team I would target for a trade. JR is always win now mode and has a bad habit to overpay. Though when you have Crosby and Malkin and are less removed from winning than Chicago it makes somewhat sense to try winning one more time before the window closes.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 30, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread:
Embrace the Tank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Murphy is worth more then a 2nd
De Haan is not worth a 2nd, 3rd at best given his cap hit.</div></div>
Cap isn't the big issue with him its his health. When healthy he was our best defenseman in the regular season last year. Given his health I can understand a third, but may have overestimated his value based on his play when healthy.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 30, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread:
Embrace the Tank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>I agree Chicago should trade Murphy, but for more than a 2nd. Remember Murphy is a big, right shot defenceman, was a 1st round 20th overall pick, and plays over 20 minutes a game, and is still only 27, prime age for a defenceman. He's too old for a Chicago rebuild, but a good age to be traded.</div></div>
You think you could get more than that in the flat cap? I tend to be tentative with trade values as a lot of fluctuation and variables based on team needs and situation. I think Devon Toews went for a second or two seconds. I didn't know if Murphy's value around the league would be the same as that so I probably undervalued it.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 30, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
Thread:
Embrace the Tank
Don't disagree, but unless Seabs waives his NMC Murphy is exposed in the expansion draft. Might as well get the asset for him. WPG after last year lost their top 2 right defenseman. This way they get a serviceable top 4 defender for 1.5 years at a reasonable price. Pitt depends if they're in the hunt at the deadline, but given that the traded a top 9 winger for spare pucks to sign Jack Johnson I wouldn't put a trade like this past them.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 21, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild
Happy to admit trade value was speculative, but that wouldn't come close to a price for Kane.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 25, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread:
Fixing Bowmans Mess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>I honestly think we could get a third or a 4th for dehaan. But if we needed a sweetener it would be something like sikura or Krys. D pairs with Brodin look really good.
Brodin-Boqvist
Kieth-Murphy
Maata-koekkoek
If Mitchell is ready then Koekkoek sits and it gets shuffled a bit but if he's not it looks like that. As for Colliton/Stan.... I think that they are really on the hot seat this year. If the team doesn't compete and honestly if they miss the playoffs both will be gone I think. I would deffinelty be in favor of the change. Never liked the Colliton hire (thought they kinda rushed him to the NHL) and I don't think Colliton's scheme/system fits our personal very well. As for Stan, I don't hate him as much as most hawks fans do, but I would definelty be in favor of a change. He still thinks Kieth and Seabrook are 2015 Kieth and Seabrook which has been a big problem for us. They have this year ti figure it out out they're gone imo. That's why I think it could be a busier offseason than most expect from the hawks</div></div>
agreed on Stan/Colliton they don't have many more chances left to fix it. Plus you can't fire the coach and let Stan pick the next one. Also with Brodin our defense does look much better. Also this scenario is already outdated Kapanen is being traded to Pittsburgh according to Freidman
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 25, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.
Thread:
Fixing Bowmans Mess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>Interesting points for sure. I still think the hawks are better off not trading Murphy. Yes forward depth is important but I would argue Murphy is currently our best defender. The hawks biggest issue isn't forward depth it's defense. Especially if you're going to ride a 36 year old concussion prone Crawford as the starter. We need to do a better job defensively. The hawks gave up the most high danger scoring chances in the league last year. This defense above if worse than what we had last year.Dehaan needs to go IMO. He was bad in the playoffs, is expensive and injury prone. I think we could get a mid round pick for him, but if we can't move him for free or even throw in a sweetener. Maata-koekkoek should be back next season. Our best shutdown D pair in the playoffs. If possible we need to find someone else on the left side who can take some minutes from Kieth, although it is looking unlikely that can happen. Rolling a defense of:
kieth-Boqvist
Murphy-Mitchell
Maata-koekkoek
works pretty solid IMO. Best case scenario is pulling off a Strome for Brodin trade to try to give Kieth less minutes. Forward depth is nice but it's a luxury. With all the bad contracts, the team is going to have some holes. You kind of have to decide what part of the roster is going to be weaker. We have played the "try to score 6 goals a game and hope you only give up 5" style of play for the last two years. It's time to shore up the defense. Unless we can get Lehner Back or bring in some goalie that can steal games, fixing the defense is our best shot at staying competitive IMO.
Regardless, it was nice to have a quality discussion out this. You bring up good points for sure.</div></div>
Agreed. I appreciate the fact as generally those i talk to on Hockey aren't that knowledgeable of this type of stuff so its nice to be challenged and reevaluate some of things i was thinking. Who would be your sweetner for Dehaan? if you can get rid of him and keep Murphy i would agree its the better option as Murphy has been solid 3 or 4th defender. I really like your D pairings as they have balance and i would switch Mitchell and Boqvist to shelter him with a stay at home defender which allows Keith to be more active in the offensive zone. The reason why i went for forward depth is probably an overly optimistic view of how good Mitchell will be as everything, i have read projects him as not just a great puck mover, but a top 4 defender. If you can get a Brodin for Strome that would be a steal of a trade, but given his season and how he seems to need Kane or DeBrincat to produce i wasn't sure how strong a market for him is going to be plus trading him does bring lockerroom issues.
Though let me ask you would get rid of Colliton and/or Bowman in favor of a new voice at GM or a more experienced coach like a Gallant?
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 25, 2020 at 9:14 a.m.
Thread:
Fixing Bowmans Mess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>You didn't really do anything to "fix Bowmans mess". Strome and Georgiev would get more money which would put you over the cap. NYR probably don't even come close to accepting that as well. Bowman's "mess" is the salary cap which you didn't fix. we can't get back guys like Panarin, Tuevo, or Danault who were traded and probably shouldn't have been, but honestly between good drafting and euro signings Stan has somewhat made up for it. I just don't see how what you did here is better. Team is worse off salary cap wise and worse defensively</div></div>
Strome after both a down year/playoffs and the fact he can only seem to produce with Kane and DeBrincat is not slated to get the $4-6 million like he was at the start of the season. Also as an RFA w/o any arbitration rights he is going to get squeezed and will likely take a smaller deal to stay in Chicago or traded which he doesn't want after a bad experience in Arizona. Plus if you look at his quotes, and the desire to play with DeBrincat it all points to him staying on a lower value bridge deal.
Georgiev hasn't proven himself as a NHL starter, but has shown flashes of skill which point to him as a possible starter his save % is .914. Also don't forget the number has been trending down over past two years. Also back ups do not get paid alot without a proven track record. Also i said in the description the defense has to take a step back. Bowman created a logjam of "okay defenders" with term when he has a glut of high end prospects and with the Seabrook albatross of a contract its not possible to go out and add a high or even a medium priced defender. So next year has to be a step back in order for the Mitchell and Boqvist to cut their teeth in the NHL. Unless you move Matta and another defenseman its not likely Mitchell even has a spot on the roster. Preferably you'd keep Murphy over Dehaan, but injury history makes him a hard player to move particularly in a flat cap world.
However, the team structured as such would have greater forward depth which was a significant problem for them throughout the year. They also have less cap stuck in longterm deals for okay players. Under ideal situations you'd also move Shaw, but i can't imagine any NHL team risking that cap space on a player whose missed something close to a season's worth of games over past two years form concussions. So the team has roughly in an actual scenario 1.2 million in cap space with alot more being likely as the chances Dehaan or Shaw are both on LTIR for a long period of time is high.
Fixing Bowman's mess in the way traditionally thought is nearly impossible you cannot undue his bad trades or magically get rid of Seabrook's contract, a contract that he is not to blame for as what player would demand less money, so what mistakes can be fixed? Making the forward core deeper and removing bad contracts which prevent the next core from having a roster spot. Additionally, as you can tell most of my contracts are short term so the team actually has an ability to hit reset, depending on how the current core and the next core are playing in two years. Also under this scenario, as unless they draft Askarov who won't be there at 17 they don't have a legit NHL starter in the system and cannot pay for anyone other than Crawford on the market they could trade for a potential starter in Georgiev. New York also will certainly trying getting as much as possible, but unless Lundquist retires they're stuck with three goalies and are not in a place of strength in that trade. Getting a quality depth forward and a NHL back up quality goaltender who can also be sent to the minors is about market value on that trade.
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Aug. 20, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread:
Looking into the future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McRanteskog</b></div><div>Seattle would be morons to accept that Seabrook cap dump.
The #1 advantage for a new expansion team is a clean slate, no bad contracts or cap anchors, why would the agree to give themselves one lol</div></div>
Easy. Especially if you turn that 2nd rounder in a 1st rounder you do what Vegas did which squeeze cap crunch teams take on someone who can play a roll (Seabs provides leadership and experience to a new team) get a high prospect who could be a top 4 defender and a high draft pick. We just watched this only a few years ago happen. I mean they said the samething about Reilly Smith and his 5.5 million deal after a few down years.
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