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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2019 at 12:56 a.m.
Thread: Ok fine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>Dubas was on Tim and did today and literally said they have protected the exact amount they need for marner.

Dubas is out of moves??? They have one nmc on their entire roster... I would say there are a lot of moves they can make.

Sorry to say but you are completely off base here. The cap space will be about 20m and that is all to be spent on defence since we will be set on offence next season. Our entire top 9 will be locked in. Then we have Freddy and Rielly in. Liljegren and sandin will be moving up. 2 fourth liners, scratches... leaves us about 13m to sign Dermott and 2 more Dmen. The outlook for next year looks good.</div></div>

I couldn't agree more.

Of course if i did try it would take me way more works.

Well said.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2019 at 12:42 a.m.
Thread: Ok fine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>trickydick55</b></div><div>he doesn't want an 8 yr deal thats why he turned it down. With what cap room will they match? seems that Dubas has run out of moves to clear space. then how do the fill 11 roster spots next year with only ~16 million in space after a 10.5 marner contract? I think they just aren't going to match anything above 9.5. the cap space is more important in a 5 year window they have with JT and Matthews down the middle.</div></div>

I get that he doesn't want it but if he wants over 10 million then he has to give up term.

Leafs can match any offer up to 9.5 + 3.2 = 12.7 million

Of course they would have to trade Kapanen to pay Mitch but I have no doubt they could find someone willing to take Kappy off there hands. Especially with the new cost certainty of his 3.2 x 3 yr deal.

I understand according to "insider extraordinaire Dreger" Marner may want 5 years, I understand he may think he should be paid what Matthews and certainly won't sign for "less then 10 million".

Look at what GM's have been willing to pay for a wing and only Panarin and Kane are the only two that I believe are signed for more then 10 million. Remember that those contracts didn't also cost the GM who signed them 4 X 1st rounders on top of the salary.

I may be wrong but I don't see an offer sheet at that AAV appearing and anything less the leafs gladly match.

And.........tell me why and who makes an offer that the leafs will match.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2019 at 12:16 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2019 at 12:10 a.m.
Thread: Ok fine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>trickydick55</b></div><div>i just don't see how Marner is going to take that deal and if contract talks continue to stall, someone will be willing to offer sheet him for 5 yrs just under the 4 1st threshold. the question is: will an offer sheet be used by marner's agent to get a deal he thinks the leafs will sign that gives him what he wants (like Aho's agent did) or will it be an aggressive 10+ million dollars offer sheet.</div></div>

Ok.......I will play along because I have time and switched to the IMAC so I have a real keyboard.

So your suggestion is Marner signs a 5 yr (his supposed first choice for term) deal and you are suggesting at 10.4 million AAV so as not to be the 4 firsts.

Is there anyone out there who thinks the Leafs would not match that offer I mean I think they match that offer for sure. Its an over pay but even if its loaded with signing bonus payments is that really something that would be a barrier to Dubas. Look at every contract they sign and its all signing bonus' so doing that won't be a problem.

I get that Marner might want an offer sheet that overpays him and that is for 5 years. But, if the Leafs are going to match it then tell me who makes that offer, some GM who wants to "screw the Leafs".

They only way I see a team agreeing to offer sheet Marner is if they think they will get him. That means going over 11 million or maybe even 12 million (god forbid) plus give up the 4 first round picks.

Who do you suggest is the team that is going to offer that?

Carolina has the cap space but do you think they are going to do it at that level. I mean they just agreed to pay Aho almost 22 million in the next year, now you want them to pay Marner 25 or 30 million on top of that, plus overpay him AAV, plus give up the picks.............I think the owner has the money but he isn't looking to screw Toronto, her is looking to screw with Montreal......Personally I don't see it.

Montreal just made a sheet so we know they are open to the idea and they have the cap space. Plus the Habs you would think would love to steal this guy from the hated Maple Leafs . But do you see them giving up the 4 firsts plus the 11 or 12 million it would take. I mean if they were going to go to that level wouldn't they have at least gone that high on Aho who was there initial target instead of lowballing the AAV like they did to not give up the picks......... I think Connor or Laine or Tkachuk would be more likely to be next on there list of guys.

Long Island, I mean Lou must want to screw Dubas. Plus he has the cap space and he just lost out offering Panarin over 11 million. Of course, Panarin doesn't cost the 4 firsts plus the 11 or 12 million AAV. I think Lou will pass and hope to build something on his own. Lou is old school and likes his first round picks. Handing those picks to the hated Dubas would I think take all the joy away from his getting Marner. Imagine the look on Marner face if he was suddenly faced with playing the next 5 years under a coach T system. Not likely Mitch takes that chance.

Winnepeg, Calgary, Edmonton, St Louis, Minnesota, Chicago, Buffalo, NYR, Washington, Pittsburg, Philadelphia, Tampa, Dallas, Nashville, Arizona, Los Angelos, Anaheim, Vegas all have there own cap problems and would have to jump through hoops to make a sheet.

I guess we could go on looking at every team out there but I think I made my point. Offer sheets are rare and GM's don't make them unless they think they will not be matched.

AHO's agent played Montreal and I don't think you will see that happen again and certainly not with the Leafs.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 27, 2019 at 1:25 a.m.
Thread: Marner 4 years
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I don't think Marner has any problem signing that. I don't know why you think he would. The only reason he wouldn't is he wants 11 million for 4 years. But either way if that's his fastest way to FA and he's sick of dealing with boy wonder big mouth Dubas he'll sign it. And yes, I do think another GM would offer it. Why wouldn't they. They don't care if you will match it or not. They know you only have 7 days to do so and you'll be scrambling after.</div></div>

Well......."boy wonder bigmouth" I guess you are not a Dubas fan and perhaps think the guy who drafted him (mark hunter) would have been a better choice.

Yes, if Marner is in fact only interested in the fastest way to a FA contract he would sign that. I guess we disagree on what he is after and I guess we will see in the next week or two whether another GM makes that offer.

I don't see it happening.