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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 4, 2021 at 7:34 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
Thread: rebuilding go brrr
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Reason</b></div><div>I am not saying your wrong but I would like to know which metrics you are using to compare Pettersson to Hertl?
EP is a very solid defensive player and has averaged .92 PPG over his career compared to Hertl's .64PPG.</div></div>

Per https://www.naturalstattrick.com, Hertl had a higher CF%, higher GF% higher xGF% last season, and when Hertl was on, the on-ice SV% was .9108, compared to .8852 for Petersson. Those aren't the only stats that matter, and that last one isn't necessarily the greatest measure of defensive performance, but they do seem to suggest Hertl was the better player last year. I have no doubt that Petersson will reach a higher peak than Hertl ever did, and it will probably happen soon, I would say that if I was ranking them just for right now though I'd take Hertl.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
Thread: rebuilding go brrr
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>There’s no order to the list. I ignore everything evolvingwild because everything evolvingwild is stupid.

Hertl over barzal? Seriously? Pettersson? Seguin? Couturier? Actually, that’s a good one to stop on.


Couturier is a legit selke candidate. Physical (more physical than Hertl), awesome defensively (better than Hertl, significantly), outscores Hertl by a wide margin (over the past four seasons .91 points per game vs Hertl’s .78). There’s really no argument for Hertl over Couturier. I do think there is a very good argument for Hertl over some of the players on this list. I don’t think there’s any argument for him being a top 15 center that isn’t loaded with bias and wishful thinking.

Do you actually think that Hertl is better than Toews, Seguin, Barzal, Couturier, Pettersson, Eichel, Malkin, and Backstrom?</div></div>

Couturier and Eichel, those are the two you may have cases on. Barzal and Petersson are worth more because of their age, but RIGHT NOW they are not better than Hertl, and every metric you could think of would back that. And Seguin? Are we still in 2016? as for the others you have on the bottom:

Yes, Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, Yes

And I don't "think" he is, there are literally advanced statistics that I posted in my comment that show he's better. You think a 92 percentile player, 20th in the league per GAR projections, is not a top 15 player at his own position?

There is more to evaluating a player than point totals and there are ways to prove someone's abilities without just saying their "awesome defensively"
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
Thread: rebuilding go brrr
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>1. McDavid
2. Crosby
3. Matthews
4. Draisaitl
5. Barkov
6. Point
7.Mackinnon
8. Schiefele
9. Tavares
10. Bergeron
11. O’reilly
12. Zibanejad
13. Barzal
14. Pettersson
15. Couturier
16. Toews
17. Backstrom
18. Lindholm
19. Kopitar
20. Seguin
21. Eichel
22. Malkin
23. Suzuki
24. Kuznetsov
25. Hughes
26. Monahan.

Which 12 guys is hertl better than?</div></div>

Nobody from Zibanejad and down is better than Hertl except for Eichel, who you for some reason have at 20. Honestly some of these names makes me think you watch hockey with your eyes closed. Lindholm?? Kuznetsov? Suzuki after one above average year?

These are the stats that matter and show Hertl is top 15-20
https://twitter.com/wwright88/status/1445444401224814605/photo/1
https://twitter.com/EvolvingWild/status/1432775202824507395/photo/1
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