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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 4, 2021 at 7:34 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 1:25 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>There’s no order to the list. I ignore everything evolvingwild because everything evolvingwild is stupid.

Hertl over barzal? Seriously? Pettersson? Seguin? Couturier? Actually, that’s a good one to stop on.

Couturier is a legit selke candidate. Physical (more physical than Hertl), awesome defensively (better than Hertl, significantly), outscores Hertl by a wide margin (over the past four seasons .91 points per game vs Hertl’s .78). There’s really no argument for Hertl over Couturier. I do think there is a very good argument for Hertl over some of the players on this list. I don’t think there’s any argument for him being a top 15 center that isn’t loaded with bias and wishful thinking.

Do you actually think that Hertl is better than Toews, Seguin, Barzal, Couturier, Pettersson, Eichel, Malkin, and Backstrom?</div></div>

Couturier and Eichel, those are the two you may have cases on. Barzal and Petersson are worth more because of their age, but RIGHT NOW they are not better than Hertl, and every metric you could think of would back that. And Seguin? Are we still in 2016? as for the others you have on the bottom:

Yes, Yes, Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, Yes

And I don't "think" he is, there are literally advanced statistics that I posted in my comment that show he's better. You think a 92 percentile player, 20th in the league per GAR projections, is not a top 15 player at his own position?

There is more to evaluating a player than point totals and there are ways to prove someone's abilities without just saying their "awesome defensively"
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 9, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.