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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2021 at 10:11 p.m.

Thread: Final offer for Eichel

Final pass from Buffalo

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2021 at 7:31 p.m.

Thread: Rangers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JackAce91</b></div><div>hes on the verge of a breakout year offensively. This year, his defense was nearly selke worthy, which is rare for such a young player.</div></div>

He may be on the verge of a breakout season, but he hasn’t done it yet. He’s not un-tradeable either. Especially for Eichel. If Kakko isn’t in the deal, I can’t imagine the Sabres even considering a deal with the rangers. They’ll need to outbid every west coast team.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.

Thread: Rangers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JackAce91</b></div><div>probably, but Rangers fans would be pissed giving up Kakko. I think its worth it, but I guess I just tried to find another trade</div></div>
Why? Kakko hasn’t proven anything.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2021 at 11:54 p.m.

Thread: Eichel to the Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Yes, but there is a fine line between a absolute haul, and a huge overpay. If you are asking Suzuki, and Caufield, you will be the team that keeps Eichel and doesn’t trade him. That’s ridiculous. Yes a division rival needs to pay more, but not that much.</div></div>
You just said that keeping Eichel is ridiculous.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2021 at 9:16 p.m.

Thread: Eichel to the Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Yes, but not that much. And in my opinion, Eichel is not a top 5 center man.</div></div>
That’s fine. But the Sabres believe he is and should absolutely ask for a return from a divisional rival that is worthy of that. This isn’t about being fair or realistic. It’s about the Sabres not wanting Eichel in the division unless it’s an absolute haul

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJul. 4, 2021 at 11:15 p.m.

Thread: Unlikely but interesting Eichel trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>I think if you add Skinner, it could be a possability</div></div>
No way. The Sabres aren’t going to diminish eichel’s value just to trade skinner

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2021 at 11:09 p.m.

Thread: Eichel to the Habs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>That’s not realistic. I know they are in the same division, but you can’t get both of Suzuki, and Caufield. It starts with Suzuki then you add more and not Caufield. Eichel is good, but not a top 5 center man.</div></div>

I’m pretty sure he is a top 5 center. Also, nothing about an Eichel trade to a division rival has to be realistic. Divisional rivals will need to overpay.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2021 at 10:59 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

Olofsson is an RFA, so saying that there’s no way he stays with the Sabres is really misleading. If he was a UFA, different story.

That said, I don’t think Olofsson is the player you think he is. He’s a PP specialist and is a horrible 5v5 player. You don’t want him on your top 2 lines.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.

Thread: Jack Eichel to CBJ Sleeper Trade

I don’t the think the Sabres would be interested in marchenko. They have no scouts in Russia, no Russian players on the roster, and not 1 Russian prospect in the system. They’ve been staying away. I’m guessing to avoid the kaprizov situation.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2021 at 11:05 p.m.

Thread: just do it already

Any deal the rangers present would need to vastly outbid any team from the east. This isn’t enough.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.

Thread: Realistic

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>No way Chicago does that</div></div>
Dach for Eichel makes way more sense than the CBJ/BUF trade

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 8:43 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>no, i understand leverage.
in this scenario, Buffalo doesn't have any...</div></div>
That’s exactly the point. In my opinion, this is lower than eichel’s worth, but probably a little higher than what most would want to pay right now. Hence, a solid offer for the Sabres to consider

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 8:40 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>there isn't a person that frequents this site that actually knows/understands the true value of Eichel.
in my opinion - this is too much.</div></div>

Are you confusing value with leverage and what teams may offer to take advantage of that leverage? Two different things.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

Solid Eichel offer.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 10, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.

Thread: My Take

Oof. That Eichel/Olofsson trade is brutal.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2021 at 11:02 p.m.

Thread: Could this work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Not disagreeing, who doesn't want a superstar? I also think the Kings and Sabres would make great trade partners, the issue is that the Kings have a lot more areas of concern and they can't put all their chips on one guy once the free agency/trading period opens, Blake has been trying for Eichel for two years, if he can't get it done, he needs to address the real areas of concern for the Kings (top-line LD and top-line winger). That's my two cents.</div></div>
The Kings/Eichel thing always confuses me. I never really buy it as a fit.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2021 at 4:14 p.m.

Thread: Could this work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>I think the issue now is Eichel will likely take the surgery, and no trade will occur until he has recovered from said surgery. I think the Kings can't afford to wait through free agency for a chance at Eichel, and they will use their assets to get a top LD or sign a free agent winger.</div></div>
I think the recovery time for the surgery he wants is very quick.

Honestly, I think every team should want Eichel. If his value truly is down, I’d buy low, let him get the surgery, roll the dice that he comes back at an MVP caliber, and then flip him at the deadline

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 6, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.

Thread: Another Eichel trade

Eichel is not getting traded within the division for that kind of an offer. It would need to be a severe overpayment.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.

Thread: Massive Step Forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>I’m not saying the return will be what hall got. I’m just saying that it will be less than what eichel should get. Just like the return for hall was less than what he should’ve gotten since he only wanted to go to boston</div></div>
Except the Sabres had no power over hall. They weren’t going to sit on hall. They can absolutely sit on Eichel and I doubt Eichel will refuse all trades for 5 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.

Thread: Jack to minny

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>Long term MN has 0 cap; no young FWDs except Eichel, Kaprizov, and JEE; and an ageing d-corps. Any prospects are still at least a year away, and outside of Rossi, are likely bottom-6 players.</div></div>
Trade the d corps, regardless. Forwards drive offense anyway, not dmen. Trade dumba for a couple forwards. I’m not saying in addition to an Eichel trade. Forget Eichel. I don’t wanna trade him to MN anyway. In general, trade Dumba. Try to add depth that way.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:57 p.m.

Thread: Massive Step Forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>All I’m saying is that he may not be comfortable ever playing without the surgery, and Buffalo hasn’t let him get it yet. The situation can get worse than it is. Once his nmc kicks in it just makes it that much harder. Similar situation that Buffalo was in with taylor hall where the return wasn’t great.</div></div>
But different in that hall was a UFA and Eichel has five more years left on his deal.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 3, 2021 at 11:50 p.m.

Thread: Darling trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalojonny</b></div><div>LOL. It's supposed to be Rasmum Dahlin trade but my stupid Google auto correct changed it.</div></div>

This is an interesting idea. I assume you have the Sabres taking Power at 1. This would give them flexibility to trade Eichel for the best offer and not need to get a center in return for him.

I’ll be honest, this trade makes way more sense to me from a kings standpoint than an Eichel trade. I just don’t see why they’d want him right now. They’re not there.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.

Thread: Jack to minny

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>No they aren't. They become a 1 scoring line team, 1 shutdown line (low end 2nd line/high end 3rd line), an okay 4th line and an AHL quality line. Eichel is good for a PPG, maybe hits 100p if he can stay healthy (which he hasn't yet). As soon as he gets hurt MN's season is over. They basically become a version of the 17/18 Sabres with a better d-corps.</div></div>
We could go back and forth all day. I understand why you wouldn’t wanna do it, but trust me. You’d win that trade long term. I understand it creates holes, so maybe it’s not a fit.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 3, 2021 at 11:41 p.m.

Thread: HUGE TRADE

I think the Sabres should throw in Cozens too. Maybe add jokiharju as well.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 3, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.

Thread: 3 way fun

Too much quantity for Jack. It needs more quality. Also, no way the Sabres are accepting a 1st two years from now.

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