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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
Thread: moves to make
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>All jokes aside, Detroit has no reason to move Perron, so we're honestly not the best trade partner for Toronto's needs and cost. Realistically for Detroit to move Perron somebody would have to overpay by a lot, so you're really not off on cost, I just don't think it would be a great idea from the Toronto perspective to do it, while it doesn't make sense for Detroit to do it for reasonable cost.</div></div>

To be honest our reason for cycling Perron should be that he’s 34, if the value is there. Take out voit and I still probably would consider this trade.

We aren’t a bubble Team this year in this division. Maybe next year. We need to keep building the foundations for the future with assets who won’t be here when we’re good. Perron fits that, so if someone is tossing a 1st and second our way, I’m hitting the sell button.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 7:38 p.m.
Thread: Deadline day - proven playoff performer with term
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>He's a 55-60 point winger that turns 35 in May. He's not worth a team's top two prospects *and* a 1st - you're literally asking for a bigger package than young RFA wingers like Fiala &amp; Debrincat got. The Tyler Toffoli trade is probably the best comp for a Perron trade - Calgary gave up a 1st, a solid prospect (Emil Heineman), and a couple of lower picks to get Toffoli, and sent Tyler Pitlick's expiring deal to offset some costs. OP's offer is light, but I think a 1st/3rd/Niemela would get Perron with retention, or you could swap that 3rd out for a worse pick and send back a contract (Pierre Engvall?) - but anything beyond that is too much for Toronto to pay.</div></div>

This though. I agree the toffoli trade is probably the best mode to go by. I didn’t expect the idea of retaining on a trade Perron to be so controversial though... he’s a 34/35 year old guy, we aren’t going to be good next year either (maybe a bubble team) and we need to keep building the foundation for the future.

1st/3rd/niemela would be enough for me tbh. Niemela is a decent fit - we might have Hronek and Seider but after that there’s nothing prospect wise on the right side unless you count wallinder who plays both.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread: Deadline day - proven playoff performer with term
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Panik was totally different, He held no value to the team. And Detroit needed a LD and took Leddy and was willing to eat on Panik and the retention was small not what we would retain on a far better David Perron.</div></div>

Which is why he would return a first plus... I don’t understand why this is a hard concept. Retention = added value to the trade. Added value to the trade means more futures. This trade is because Perron is good, has playoff experience, and will be a valuable contributor to a team in the playoff hunt for this and next year. That makes him very valuable...

If Steve gets the right value he’ll do just about anything. You’re artificially placing restrictions