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Opie

Opie
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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 10:38 am
Thread: Hyman - Mango Reunion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>I think this whole "Lacks the players to win in the playoffs" is such an overplayed narrative. How many times did Washington flame out in the playoffs for the exact same reasons listed above? Toronto lost this year because Carey Price played out of his mind. The Leafs outplayed the Habs from start to finish.

Like, people say that the Hyman-type players are the gritty guys that will help win you a series...well, he had 1 point in 7 games. Wilson? 2 pts in 5 games for the Caps. in yet another 1st round exit for them. Heck, half of this site was spouting off about how Nylander is soft, lazy, etc...after that series? Not so much.

The Leafs need to continue building on what they've got. The playoffs are an absolute crap shoot, and saying "tHeY dOn'T hAvE tHe RiGhT pLaYeRs!!!" is the biggest media-driven narrative foolishness that people (for some reason) seem to eat right up.</div></div>

100% ...

Though those contracts are tough to maneuver around. They will get it right one year, I suspect..

All in all, who wouldn't want to start a team with the Leaf's top 4 - 5 players? Its a solid core, just a tad too expensive. If Cap goes up someday, it will offer relief. Your reference to Washington is spot on.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 9:43 am
Thread: Hamilton and Reinhart
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>I don't really agree. Trades seldom take place before the playoffs wrap up and JVR not only burned another year of his deal, but had a really good season as well (not to mention the necessity for a shakeup)</div></div>

NJ? Fitzgerald is on record saying he is only looking to aquire players in the age vicinity of Hischier and Hughes. If he takes older veterans (which I agree is needed) he'd look for a cap dump compensation opportunity or something with lesser draft capital cost.
Third round draft picks are Looong shots, but in a year like this one, with the lack of scouting, more picks are better. There will be late round gems for sure. Idk, I just dont see NJ taking JVR, despite the popularity of this trade on AGM.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 14 at 8:24
Thread: Who has more value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>So Hughes makes mediocre guys decent while Marner makes elite players better. This isn’t a comparison that can be made. It’s really not even close when it comes to skill, if it was, Jack would be getting all of his bonuses. This comparison is the equivalent to us comparing Kakko to Eichel. It’s not close. Now given our situation with awesome youth and already having high paid players we would choose Kakko so we don’t look like the leafs or tampa with struggling to resign guys(at least TB is getting cups to justify losing players). Weak division, yes, but only this season. Marner took JT from a 40G scorer to a 50G scorer. Hughes doesn’t have that capability YET. One day he might</div></div>

I agree this is a tough comparison to make ... there is just no baseline given the dramatic differences in supporting casts.

Hughes took two rookies (a 2nd &amp; 5th round pick, mind you) and made them relevant, while supported (kind of) by a poor blueline. Im not the biggest Hughes fan, but what he did with Lemons at 19 opened my eyes a bit.

He's not Marner, but give him a chance next to winger with JT level talent &amp; I suspect he elevates production in a similar way. His vision, passing and skating are off the charts.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 14 at 8:11
Thread: Who has more value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Marner is only 1 mill overpaid

in comparison with 2 other great RW

Kucherov makes 9.5 mill and the year of his contract signing he had

<strong>41 goals, 87 assists for 128 points. </strong>

Now its Florida money so he took a discount as with lower taxes he still makes the same as if he was making 11 on another team

Rantanen makes 9.25 mill and the year of his contract signing he had

<strong>31 goals, 56 assists for 87 points</strong>

Marner the year he signed his contract had

<strong>26 goals, 68 assists for 94 points</strong>

So in retrospect Marner makes 10.893 compared to 9.25 and 9.5 so 1 mill overpaid. Therefore Marners ideal range should have been 9.3-9.5 mill</div></div>

The tough thing about Marner's contract are the other monster contracts on the same team. The are only so many contracts you can give out that take up nearly 13% of the cap &amp; still expect to have the depth to win. For my taste, those contracts belong on the blueline or center.

He's a fantastic player who makes others better, I get it. I just dont think its the right place to put your cap dollars, when you already pay the guys the Leafs are paying now down the middle etc.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 14 at 8:00
Thread: Who has more value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>lul marner is not a finished product. Hes 24 years old. Your acting as if Marner is 30+ years old . Players continue to grow and develop through their careers.

Marner has been changing his game up year after year improving both offensively and defensively making him one of the best playmakers in the NHL

Hughes also has time to improve his game but it better come soon as so far its not been a good look for him</div></div>

Sure, as I mentioned, he could change. Most NHLers peak (production) at 25, but a significant move is likely behind him. As experience helps him, physical skills will begin to erode.

IDK, Hughes looked pretty damn good for a 19 year old, esoecially so considering the circumstances, but I agree he could go in any direction.