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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24 at 1:06 p.m.
Thread:
You never ask a player to waive until you know you have a trade ready
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>:tearsofjoy</div></div>
that's about the level of response i expected.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 24 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread:
You never ask a player to waive until you know you have a trade ready
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Roger that, homer.</div></div>
can you just not be so lame? the, "oh you don't agree with me about a players value so you're a homer," line is so tired and stupid.
and what would the homerism be? this goes for any team trading for hanifin. Here is what's happening here. I'm looking at 20 years of trade history and trying to sort out what the market would dictate the asset is worth, and you're just saying it should unprecedented and then lashing out at others that have different opinions. it's lame.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 23 at 5:12 p.m.
Thread:
You never ask a player to waive until you know you have a trade ready
boston isn't moving that much to get hanifin.
Forum:
Site Discussion
Dec. 13, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
Thread:
10 things most Armchair GMs don't understand about making a trade in the NHL
1. Trades are more likely to occur when there are changes that prompt them (player is due a raise, another player has supplemented them in lineup)
2. Trade comps will predict the price for most trades. Our gut won't.
3. Wingers grow on trees (there are always cheap wingers). Young centers and top-4 dmen rarely move.
4. There are differences between deadline trades (short-term focus) and off-season trades (longer-term)
5. See #2...always trust the comps over your own gut.
6. There is a risk premium on goalies...since their performance is harder to replicate (meaning the return is lower)
7. The cost for salary retention is a fairly stable market (use comps to determine cost of cap space)
8. There are some teams that *never* take salary dumps. Find out who they are.
9. There is a developmental super-cycle that every team goes through (Competing->Aging->Deconstructing->Rebuilding->Competing). Items like cap space and draft have different value at different stages.
10. Read #2 again on comps.
11. Sign-and-trades are rare (but could become more common). Setoguchi was first as RFA in 2011. Severson was first as UFA in 2023.
12. There valued added by intangibles is de minimis. For instance, he is 'good for your teams kids' or 'good locker room guy' don't change trade prices.
13. Trades do get rejected by league. We don't hear about them.
14. Top-25 prospects rarely get moved. Maybe once every couple of years. Top-50 prospects maybe once a year. Prospects in 51-100 range move frequently. Ask accordingly.
15. See #2 on comps.
16. There are contract limits. Teams usually want to be under those limits. Trading 5 guys for 1 doesn't help them.
17. Trading after the deadline is allowed. The limitations are for roster eligibility for post-season.
18. The value of a draft pick traded at the draft is largely known. Valuing a pick months away from draft is much more complicated.
19. Unsigned prospects are worth less than signed versions.
20. Trust the comps.
Forum:
NHL
Feb. 11 at 9:56 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #3: After Further Review...
Greig knew what he was doing on this play. He was showing off and trying to rile up the leafs. And Rielly rightly went after him.
HOWEVER… a blatant cross check to the head is not acceptable under any circumstances. You can’t defend what Rielly did. I’d say he probably gets 5 games, and I think he should get 5 games.
Forum:
NHL
Feb. 11 at 12:26 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #3: After Further Review...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stones6160</b></div><div>I guess I’ll toss my two cents into this
What Grieg did was objectively not the classiest move and well that’s a lesson learned looking at it for him now
However. Reilly 100% intentionally crossed checked him in the face. Can’t even say his stick went up his shoulders. He didn’t touch them at all. That’s a chicken move and does not have a place in hockey, if you’re actively defending Reilly here, idk man, the excuse of “oh look at back then” is over. It’s a newer, safer era of hockey. Accept it. Saying that’s embellishing is craaaazy
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I remember a more violent game. I would be 100% okay if someone took a run at Grieg during play. Or if a player dropped the gloves and pummeled him, even if he wasn't a willing participant. You send your message and take your penalty for charging or instigating if the refs see fit as the price to send the message if necessary. I'd be fine with that. If you can't do it tonight, you bank it for next time.
What you simply cannot do is just hit people in the face with a stick while the puck isn't even in play. Especially after a slap to an empty net. Grieg's wasn't even a violent play begging for some score settling. Just salt in your Leafy wounds. World class stupid, crosscheck and indefensible. You couldn't do it even when the game wasn't obsessed with player safety. Certainly can't do it now. Just tune him up next game.
Whatever the sentence ends up being (and let's face it, who the heck knows with DOPS), he earned it. The FAFO people cheering on Reilly might find that FAFO sword cuts both directions.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Feb. 23, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
Thread:
(BOS/WSH) - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Smith for Hathaway, Orlov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>No it isnt. A bunch of late picks for legit playoff performers in their prime. Good work by Sweeney not to give up a prospect. Who cares about these picks with their core aging. It works for both teams. I would have given up prospects if I was Holland. Another fail by Ken</div></div>
A 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are not late picks.
Forum:
NHL
Feb. 22, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #11: The Main Event
<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matthews blocked five shots last night. He's tied for the NHL lead, among forwards, in blocks with San Jose's Nick Bonino. Both have 71. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Leafs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Leafs</a></p>— Terry Koshan 🇺🇦 (@koshtorontosun) <a href="https://twitter.com/koshtorontosun/status/1628439478112079873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">February 22, 2023</a></blockquote>
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People complain he aint scoring. Thats because hes to busy adding to that Selke Resume
Forum:
NHL Trades
Sep. 19, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
Thread:
(NYR/DAL) - Lundkvist for 1st, 4th
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdDpYSyWYAAqfk0?format=jpg&name=small" alt="FdDpYSyWYAAqfk0?format=jpg&name=small">
Jim Nill philosophy
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NHL Trades
Jul. 22, 2022 at 11:31 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
ONE OF THE BIGGEST BLOCK BUSTERS IN HISTORY
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 22, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread:
Calgary Flames signed Matthew Tkachuk (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)
Damn, and I thought the Jays game would be the most interesting thing tonight.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:34 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
AND HABS FANS WANTED BOURQUE + A 1ST 😂😂😂😂
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 16, 2022 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread:
Montreal Canadiens signed Rem Pitlick (2 Years / $1,100,000 AAV)
The very second they had cap space, when you think he carries only 300k more than Poehling... Great deal even if his shooting % should go down.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
Throwing away Poehling is great cause he was either going to steal a spot in Laval from someone that can actually grow his game or get 4th line minutes as a winger which we have too many (Wingers), it also clears an extra 800k that could be used over the year for a short term cap dump OR to pursuit Dubois.
Petry didn't want to be here so that's that. Also to be noted is that we traded an aging defender with a 15 team no-trade list for a younger guy with 8 no-trade so on the long run it could help us if he has to be moved.
I like it for Montreal, they now have margin under the cap (If Price's healthy) to sign Dach.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Greatest winners are the CF community.
Now these stupid Petry trades can finally stop.</div></div>
It was as obnoxious that some Habs fans thought he was worth a 1st as Detroit fans thinking he needed to be moved along with a 1st to be tradeable. Both side of the spectrum can now go to bed.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 16, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Matheson was terrible in Florida but was really turning it around in Pittsburgh. I am really interested to see how he works out in Montreal now because it will show whether or not it was him figuring it out or something systemically that the Pens were doing to help him exploit his value. Lot of term at a big aav though to take that risk.
Petry has been good in the past but is old and in decline, but if last year was an abhoration then who knows this could be great for PGH but again a mid term at a very high aav carries a lot of risk.
Just an interesting trade all around with a lot of potential downside for all inolved.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biased_leafs_fan</b></div><div>AND HABS FANS WANTED BOURQUE + A 1ST 😂😂😂😂</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Can't say I'm super satisfied with the return, but we're far from the days people were saying it'd take a 1st to offload Petry.
The market was set by McDonagh & Petry - teams are too tight to the cap and MTL didn't want to retain. Poehling was going to be lost on waivers as well.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>While im happy Matheson is gone im not happy we in a sense replaced Marino with Petry.
Would have preferred it if we never signed Rutta and went with
Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
POJ-Marino</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>The winner of this trade depends on what version of Matheson MTL gets.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I find Pittsburgh's system often brings out the best in players. Remember how good Ceci was for them. Now often these guys once they leave see a regression. Now for Matheson I dont think its gonna be a big one but I feel hes gonna be between what he was in Florida and Pittsburgh</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/1xIuWpvZqg" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/1xIuWpvZqg</a></p>— CanadiensFan (@GuhleSzn) <a href="https://twitter.com/GuhleSzn/status/1548390772113694720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">July 16, 2022</a></blockquote>
Poehling is a throwaway player.
So it becomes Matheson + 4th for Petry.
Matheson is 6 years younger and signed for 1 more year than Petry, costs $1.4 Million Less and will likely remain as a top 4 defensemen throughout his entire contract wheras Petry will likely start regressing in the next 2 or 3 years. I do like this trade for Montreal, but I voted fair trade because I think both teams do well here.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Penguins GM should have just called off today....</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Steal for Pittsburgh, id much rather have Petry than Matheson, Petry may be more expensive but he’s better than Matheson and I don’t like the term on Matheson</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vmark</b></div><div>Well there you have it. Now our D is stacked. This isn't the last move. But I'll take Petry and Smith over Matheson and Marino every day of the week and twice on game night. Matheson's defensive positioning was atrocious. Marino was overrated as ****. Now we have a guy who is a legit top pair player and a high upside offensive guy who can certainly at the very least pull off a good Matheson impression.
Hexy is on one boys</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>I would've kept Marino and Matheson over Smith and Petry</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>don't understand this trade for pittsburgh. first they traded their young, defensive rhd for a younger, offensive lhd. then they trade a two-way lhd in his prime for a more expensive, over the hill offensive rhd.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stones6160</b></div><div>I’ll be honest, I don’t get this trade for either side
Petry is the older Dman, had a okay but not a good season, makes more money
Poehling is screwed, Pittsburgh is not the right place to go if he wants any chance at a thorough career
Matheson is very hit or miss, had a better year than Petry yes, but is still shaky, 4 years left could cause trouble for younger Dman to get into the roster, if he falls back to Florida Matheson, good luck Habs</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Petry is also 34 and is signed longer term which is sketchy. Obviously Petry is the better player, but we get younger and more cap space. Poehling was terrible last year and would've gotten claimed on waivers this season. It's a good deal.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sidney_crosgoat</b></div><div>I really don't know what to say about this</div></div>
I have no words. Hextall has single-handedly reconstructed the penguins defense core with a couple old guys in letang, petry, and ruuta and one struggling young guy in smith… once again we have no cap space
And <strong>WE STILL HAVE 9 DEFENSEMEN!!!</strong>
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 13, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
Thread:
Columbus Blue Jackets signed Johnny Gaudreau (7 Years / $9,750,000 AAV)
How sad is Devil?
Devil:
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NHL Signings
Jul. 13, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
Thread:
Columbus Blue Jackets signed Johnny Gaudreau (7 Years / $9,750,000 AAV)
I guess Columbus <em>does</em> attract free agents
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 13, 2022 at 8:15 p.m.
Thread:
(VGK/CAR) - Pacioretty, Coghlan for future considerations
>trade $7,762,500 in salary
>still almost 1.4 over the cap
Dude lmfao
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 13, 2022 at 8:14 p.m.
Thread:
(VGK/CAR) - Pacioretty, Coghlan for future considerations
HAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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NHL Signings
Jul. 13, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Reilly Smith (3 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)
This team went from making "history" to being the biggest trainwreck in pro sports all in less than 5 years.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 13, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
Thread:
(VGK/CAR) - Pacioretty, Coghlan for future considerations
I wonder if he found out on Twitter…
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 13, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.
Thread:
(CAR/SJS) - Lorentz, Mäkiniemi and conditional 2023 3rd rd pick for Burns, Pederson
Burns played the most last year at 37 y/o & still produce offensively like crazy
And SJ agreed to give him to CAR basically for free
Superb replacement to DeAngelo for CAR IMO
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 13, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
Thread:
Seattle Kraken signed Shane Wright (3 Years / $3,980,833 AAV)
These puns are gonna drive me Wright off the nearest cliff
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 13, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
Thread:
(ARI/NYR) - Emberson for Nemeth, 2nd and conditional pick
How bad did you get fleeced?
Drury:
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NHL Signings
Jul. 13, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Thomas Greiss (1 Year / $1,500,000 AAV)
this is good for joel hofer who will take over midseason likely now...
greiss wont hold it down more than 6 months
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