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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1, 2022 at 8:10 a.m.
Thread: Improving
Quality > quantity

Marner likely isn’t getting moved unless management has a drastic change of heart (losing in the first round doesn’t guarantee they will). It’ll take them getting beat and not looking like they’re even in the games to consider that move.

Now IF Marner was going to considered to be moved, it’s fewer pieces 6, likely closer to 4 pieces with higher value. Considering Toronto’s needs, I’d say you’re likely looking at Mercer + Severson (with an extension) + Sharangovich + conditional 2nd that turns into a 1st if Marner is top 5 in league scoring or MVP voting

Leafs won’t be looking to rebuild so players like Holtz, Gritsyuk, and Stillman really have very little value to them. You don’t get a consistent top 10 point producer for cheap - you wouldn’t like the price you’d be paying for him
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 25, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.
Thread: Chaotic Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Maybe if Nylander had more term left before he's a UFA. Even if Jeannot was just a run of the mill 20+ goal middle six winger instead of someone with all the Tom Wilson-esque intangibles teams covet, they're still making out like bandits with this proposal. Hagel got the overpayment he did because of his team friendly contract for 2.5 seasons, and being a RFA when that's done (also, TBL paid a significant deadline premium - this proposal is an off-season trade).

Robertson has considerable skill, but I don't think it's NHL skill. I think he winds up being another tiny guy like Darren Haydar or Simon Gamache who can put up great numbers in the AHL, but can't hang at the next level.</div></div>

Lmao. This narrative of “this player could walk to free agency” is so overblown on this site. Every player could - and if that’s your excuse for not making a trade then it’s not a very good one. That’s part of the risk when you do ANY deal.. here’s an idea, you’d have 2 years to talk to Nylander about an extension. &amp; hey if that’s your thought, could Jeannot just walk as a UFA too? Expires an RFA then only wants a 1 year deal so he can test free agency? Oh no!

Come up with better excuses. This is just getting redundant at this point from people on here.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 25, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
Thread: Chaotic Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>NSH doesn't consider



The team trading the best player does typically lose most trades. TOR doesn't here though.

Jeannot + 1st &gt;/= two years of Nylander
Tolvanen &gt; Robertson
Tomasino &gt; Niemelä + 3rd
$3M spent on three roster players &gt;&gt; $7.7M spent on one-two roster players</div></div>

Nylander is worth more than Jeannot and a 1st sorry to tell you. Nylander has been a consistent point producer and play driver his entire career and has a much larger sample size. Jeannot has been good for 1 season and that season came as a 24 year old rookie. The gap between Nylander and Jeannot is much larger than a 1st round pick. If Brandon Hagel got the kind of return he got, there’s no chance a kid round 1st and a middle 6 winger gets Nylander. Sorry to break reality here
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 24, 2022 at 5:02 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.
Thread: Nylander trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlackwoodForVezina</b></div><div>why offer all that up for someone that would walk</div></div>

This has become the lamest excuse on this site. “Oh my team wouldn’t trade for that player because they could just leave as a UFA when the time comes “.. no shiit. Every player could. At that point why are trades a thing? Hell why sign a UFA or draft a player? They’re just gonna leave when they become a UFA.

Relax. You get 2 years to work on an extension with a player and then you have the advantage of being able to offer something that other teams can’t - the extra year.

Stop being bias and stop trying to find negative in everything. The game is a business, trades happens. There’s risks in every move, you weigh them and determine if it’s worth the risk or not. &amp; if you think it’s not worth the risk of Nylander for this package then you’re absolutely insane.