How does Toronto move the best player in the Nashville deal and still lose the deal by a landslide?

Jeannot = Robertson + 3rd
Niemela = Tomasino
Tolvanen + 1st <<< Nylander

Doesn’t make sense if the Leafs are still trying to win, which they are.

Columbus has plenty of middle 6 forwards, I’d rather have the second.

An emphatic "Nyet" from EDM. Aside from the very obvious cap issues EDM has, Mrazek's contract is going to cost a pretty significant asset to move off the books.

Montreal says done deal thanks!

My thoughts exactly!

Agree with your sentiment but feel like you're underselling Jeannot big time here

I mean sure we give up a high 2nd and 3rd but if the Leafs have another early exit that pick could turn out very good.

NSH doesn't consider



The team trading the best player does typically lose most trades. TOR doesn't here though.

Jeannot + 1st >/= two years of Nylander
Tolvanen > Robertson
Tomasino > Niemelä + 3rd
$3M spent on three roster players >> $7.7M spent on one-two roster players

Nylander is worth more than Jeannot and a 1st sorry to tell you. Nylander has been a consistent point producer and play driver his entire career and has a much larger sample size. Jeannot has been good for 1 season and that season came as a 24 year old rookie. The gap between Nylander and Jeannot is much larger than a 1st round pick. If Brandon Hagel got the kind of return he got, there’s no chance a kid round 1st and a middle 6 winger gets Nylander. Sorry to break reality here

I’m not denying that he’s a good player at all. But 1 good season as a 24 year old rookie doesn’t sky rocket you’re value to as the same as a 25 year old consistent play driver that’s minimum 60 points a year and is near a point per game this year on a great contact. The gap is much larger than people think

Not arguing nylander, I'm saying the gap between Jeannot and Robertson is more than a 3rd

I don’t think it’s much more than that. Robertson is younger and produced at a FAR superior pace in the AHL than Jeannot did and Robertson cracked the AHL before Jeannot did, Jeannot actually played as an overage player in junior. Robert son’s potential is still worth Jeannot. Jeannot is just highly rated on this site because of his physical play, but that doesn’t make him worth that much more when the skill level is already further in Robertson’s favour

Maybe if Nylander had more term left before he's a UFA. Even if Jeannot was just a run of the mill 20+ goal middle six winger instead of someone with all the Tom Wilson-esque intangibles teams covet, they're still making out like bandits with this proposal. Hagel got the overpayment he did because of his team friendly contract for 2.5 seasons, and being a RFA when that's done (also, TBL paid a significant deadline premium - this proposal is an off-season trade).

Robertson has considerable skill, but I don't think it's NHL skill. I think he winds up being another tiny guy like Darren Haydar or Simon Gamache who can put up great numbers in the AHL, but can't hang at the next level.

Lmao. This narrative of “this player could walk to free agency” is so overblown on this site. Every player could - and if that’s your excuse for not making a trade then it’s not a very good one. That’s part of the risk when you do ANY deal.. here’s an idea, you’d have 2 years to talk to Nylander about an extension. & hey if that’s your thought, could Jeannot just walk as a UFA too? Expires an RFA then only wants a 1 year deal so he can test free agency? Oh no!

Come up with better excuses. This is just getting redundant at this point from people on here.

Nylander's free agency status isn't the only reason this is a bad proposal for NSH (they're giving up more overall talent, taking on a lot more cap, and the pieces they're getting back don't meet their needs and are easier to find than what they're giving up), but I think you're vastly underestimating how much NHL GMs value team control, when it comes to contracts.

Say for example Jeannot and Bunting were completely equal players, in terms of on-ice play. They're both late blooming rookies with one year left on their contracts. Let's just say they're the same age and make the same amount too, for the sake of the argument. If NSH was going to trade the RFA Jeannot for the UFA Bunting, which team would have to add? The Leafs obviously, and it would need to be a significant add. A 3rd or a B- prospect wouldn't get it done.