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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 1, 2022 at 9:40 p.m.
Thread: Start the rebuild already
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Islesforthecup</b></div><div>1st of all that wasn’t the deal. It was
Hall and Blake speers for
Nick merkley
Nathan schnarr
Kevin bahl
A 1st and a 3rd.
2nd of all Taylor hall had won the hart a year prior while tarasenko was having 3 major surgeries. When hall was traded that was the low point in his value while tarasenko is at the high point. There’s a much lower chance that tarasenko improves more than there was for hall. Hall was also much more extension friendly as he was ~3 years younger then than tarasenko is now. Taylor Hall was much more valuable then than VT is now and the fact that the package that hall got is only slightly more than this proves my point.</div></div>

The mental gymnastics on this... What we established was that your first point was talking out your ass. Teams trade for rentals and pay 1st's for talent to win the cup. Even if your more recent argument held water, which it doesn't, you still have a rental player going for multiple firsts.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 20, 2022 at 8:31 p.m.
Thread: Timo Year 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Guess we shouldn't offer Huberdeau either since that will get the same response. Bloated contract, best years are behind him, probably only puts up 30 points right?

Or maybe you should ask yourself why the goal scorer who's scored on around 16-20% of their shots over the previous 3 seasons is only shooting at 9% so far after these 17 games.</div></div>

The guy would have more goals if he had more goals? He'd have more points if he'd have more points? Do you understand your argument? He'd score more if he shot more? The point is he doesn't score more because he doesn't shoot. And somehow that percentage is suppose to magically hold up when it scales? He's a 26 year old 6th round draft pick, with a 5.8 cap hit who is on pace to once again put up 30 points. We aren't trading Tarasanko for a guy who will "potential" shoot. And Mag's best years aren't behind him, hes never produced at a level to be a cornerstone piece for someone like Tarasanko.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 20, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
Thread: HAWKS TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Considering everyone thought he was "washed up", his two way game has come back, he is on pace for 50+ points, and he dominates at the dot, "insane" is still probably an overstatement, but "insanely better than most people thought he would be this season" is a valid statement. Not to mention, he is a veteran leader and 3 time stanley cup winner... I don't think a late 1st round pick this year is out of the question, and a 2024 or 2025 1st round pick, or something comparable in value, is definitely not out of the question.</div></div>

That's not how any of it works. People dont trade for players based on how they performed versus expectations. If toews was projected to put up 5 goals and scores 10, literally no one cares. What they actually care about is how is a 5 million dollar player going to perform who will change the team chemistry for better or worst. His productivity has been declining and all the conjecture about a 3 time cup champ is removed when he's gone to the playoffs once in the past five years. If he's hovering around 25 goals during the trade deadline I could see him getting a similar package to Giroux. All that being said, it is highly unlikely Chicago trades him, I'd expect a deal to take him into retirement. And the Avs aren't really hurting for centers