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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.

Thread: buying while also getting assets

The problem with this idea that the Canes flip Smith is that, if his value is so low that the Bruins will be getting very little or nothing in return, how are the Canes going to get value for him then? Why wouldn't, say Anaheim, just cut out the middleman in Carolina? If the Canes get Smith, they either plan on using him or will bury him. Reilly on the other hand could be useful for them for sure, but may be better bottom 6 guys out there (Kulikov?)

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: PLAYOFF PUSH

Don't see any reason for Buffalo to give up those assets for Kane when they have a realistic shot at signing him for free in a season where they will probably be better anyways. Same goes for the other guys if you want them too, all UFAs.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.

Thread: Hexstalling

Flyers have no cap room to make such a deal, especially since they are under contract next year too.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

Thread: Chicago TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I wouldn't mind trading a first and a third for McCabe as long as it was our 2024 first. We traded away our 2022 first in the Fiala deal.</div></div>

Think that could be doable

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

Thread: Chicago TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lightman13</b></div><div>Wild don’t like domi at all. He is apparently of no interest to them. According to their best writer. Could have gotten him a dozen times the last year and never had interest.</div></div>

Assume you're referring to Russo? If so, I trust that man so thanks for bringing that up. Lets just use Minnesota as an example team then, where 2nd+prospect is the return for Domi who is having a good year.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: Chicago TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>saysthemachine</b></div><div>No need to give up Jones. Kravstov wouldn't need to go if not for our cap situation. You'll get next year's 1st kravstov and a B prospect for 40 games of Kane and that is a good return given the circumstances.</div></div>

Is...that not what I put in the trade? I guess you can argue about if Jones is a "B" prospect but...you're acting like I'm asking you to trade Lidstrom

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: Chicago TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Onlyfairtrades1</b></div><div>Chicago GM has 3 choices if Kane limits him to just the Rangers...1. trade him to the Rangers for whatever he can get...2. keep him and let him become a free agent and get nothing...and 3. keep him and sign him. If this rumor is true, then Drury has all the leverage, like Gorton with Adam Fox and the Canes, and what happened? There is no reason to give up much in that circumstance. But if Kane will go to other teams like Carolina or Vegas, then the cost will be too high for the Rangers IMO and they are better off chasing a guy like Janeau or Bjugstad or Lafferty.</div></div>

I disagree its not like Fox at all. Its much more like Giroux, as I explained. Fox was an unsigned NCAA player who had already been traded once.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.

Thread: Chicago TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ginandtacos</b></div><div>Taking the Myers contract off TB's hands would probably increase the return beyond what you have here. Lafferty isn't like a superstar but he's a good asset and taking back a cap dump should cost something.</div></div>

Yeah I agree. I leaned a bit conservative here but probably could get more.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.

Thread: Matty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BenningTruther</b></div><div>yes, yes it is an awful package.

flames font have a single player Van even takes the call for petey on</div></div>

I mean, when I said that it wasn't like "Markstrom, Zadorov, random prospects and a 2nd". Like I said, its not that those players are bad but none of them come close to replacing Pettersson both on the ice and what it means to the Canucks if you're trading him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.

Thread: Matty

Its not an awful package I guess, but still seems like Vancouver loses this.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.

Thread: Buffalo Sabres

Flyers decline. Farabee is playing through injury because Fletcher is stupid, and he's signed long term. Mittelstadt is meh and Bjork is nothing.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.

Thread: Canes TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>then we hang onto him, find a team who wants him for that</div></div>

I mean, just to be clear: You are saying a 2023 1st for Henrique at 50% would get it done? I guess they COULD do that I guess. What about: Henrique (50%) and Kulikov for the 2023 1st, Coghlan, and like a 4th for Kulikov? Or instead of the 4th a lower end prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: Canes TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hunter8853</b></div><div>I think the Flyers want at least a 5th for Braun, just because of how good of a veterans presents he will be in the playoffs.</div></div>

I'm a Flyers fan and agree, I just wanted to be a bit conservative. Think he COULD get a 5th but since he's been the 7th guy all year it could drive it down.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: Canes TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>2023 1st instead of the 2nd will get you Rico

we can do 50% retained on top of it</div></div>

Well Carolina doesn't need the retention unless they're planning on adding even more, so I don't really see the benefit in giving up more for unneeded retention. I also would be shocked if they did a 1st for just Henrique, even if he has one more year. I think Henrique is a very good player, I don't know if he is worth a 2023 1st like say Meier is. What if they did the 2nd, Coghlan, and a prospect?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.

Thread: viable opponent for vasilevskiy only way id be ok with knies deal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>no I know, you said they may also want another NHLer going with Knies and I was saying take Kerfoot off the Hawks deal and give him to NSH. Though I doubt that really moves the needle</div></div>

Gotcha. Yeah, Kerfoot I don't think is much of anything in such a deal. I think it'd be young (say, 26 or under) guys. Woll like you said is not a bad idea. I think they'd be more interested in Knies/Woll/1st than Murray to be honest. I know that Murray would need to be moved still, but from NSH perspective.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.

Thread: viable opponent for vasilevskiy only way id be ok with knies deal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>i mean i'm sure the Hawks deal still works without kerfoot and they could have him. Could have Robertson as well who at least has had some body of work in the NHL. But to both of you appreciate the actually constructive discussion and glad to hear I at least provided a reasonable framework for this type of move.</div></div>

Oh I wasn't talking about the Hawks deal at all, my comment was about Saros. I think Saros will cost more than Horvat because he is under contract for more years, and yes Horvat got extended but there's still risk there.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.

Thread: viable opponent for vasilevskiy only way id be ok with knies deal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EvanderKanesLawyer</b></div><div>A good comparison I like to make is the Horvat deal. While he is a forward (two different positions) you gotta think we could net a similar return. Horvat got a blue chip prospect, a 1st, and a young roster player. Top end player, top end goalie. Different condiments, same sandwich.

If I'm moving a Vezina caliber goalie under a team friendly deal for the next 3 seasons, I'm asking for no less. The deal would have to really entice me to consider moving him.
But like I said, Knies and a 1st is a good conversation starter but it would likely cost more.</div></div>

Absolutely agreed. I would say they need someone who is already proven at the NHL level along with Knies for example, because at the end of the day until he's proven he is still a risk to bust.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.

Thread: viable opponent for vasilevskiy only way id be ok with knies deal

Honestly not a horrible starting point as you've acknowledged, and you deserve credit for not absolutely low balling. I would have to think the Predators would want more as we've said. If I was them, I'm looking at 1.) Young forwards (their offense is ROUGH) 2.) Young D and 3.) NHL goalie to fill until they bring up Askarov/back him up.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.

Thread: deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>spockrock</b></div><div>Why in the world would the Canes trade one if their D making close to league minimum, for a 5th and a forward they don’t need making over $3M?

If CAR takes on Smith, they’re not sending a roster player back and you’re paying a heck of a lot more than a 5th</div></div>

Agreed with this, and I also think the EDM deal makes no sense for either side. Am I wrong in understanding Grz is considered a good defenseman for Boston? If so, why are you trading him. If you're EDM, why are you trading FOR him when Bouchard is cheaper and younger AND giving up another 1st?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.

Thread: Calgary TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikej</b></div><div>i'd love to see looch back for one last run , even in a 4th line role</div></div>

I really think they could make this work if they wanted him back. Moving all the players I mentioned (including Smith and Reilly separately) would still allow them to add more depth after Lucic too. Could be fun

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.

Thread: Calgary TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>Lucic is still overpaid at this cap hit and they need Zboril/Stralman for depth reasons.</div></div>

If they did this deal, they would have enough cap to add other depth D still (Schenn, Seeler maybe both honestly) while being under the cap. I don't disagree with you that he's overpaid, I just think he COULD be moved and Boston wouldn't be the worst place for him to go.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>radtad</b></div><div>Idk how PHI could say no to that? Isn’t Henri playing RD first pairing? + second line winger + 1st + 2nd. Idk maybe I’m missing something, seems like BUF wouldn’t give up that much</div></div>

I mean I'm definitely confused why lots of Sabres fans are suggesting dumping Jokiharju as he seems very good to me, but I'm not sure they want to move TK.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CHAR</b></div><div>It's the worst collection of right wings in the NHL (with Terry on IR) and a d-corp that would struggle against AHL opponents. Oof, tanking sucks to watch.</div></div>

It is rough yeah. I imagine it will be a busy offseason for them once some of this money comes off.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Just a small point: Klingberg double retained is $1,750,000 (half of $3,500,000).</div></div>

Thanks! Mea culpa

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 22, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: Anaheim TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Manson</b></div><div>Ana Gets: Jesse P, Craig Smith, Anton Stralman, 3rd, 5th
Ana Gives up: Klingberg, Kulikov, Grant

What is this?</div></div>

I'm not really sure what your question is here. The Ducks get: JP, 2023 3rd, 2023 4th, 2023 5th, 2024 4th, 2024 5th. Smith and Stralman are just cap dumps to get the extra picks. I could see a scenario where Boston gives them something else instead. But if your assertion is that they should be getting MORE back for these pieces...I respectfully disagree. Klingberg has not been that good this year. Getting a 3rd for him in a good draft, plus a player who could turn it around out of Edmonton, is not that bad all things considered. You took a guy you signed for free, and turned it into two assets. Grant is a bottom six guy, if you get higher than a 4th or 5th for him I will give you my credit card information. Kulikov same deal, mayyyyybe a team gives up a third for him, but he's a bottom 6 defensive defenseman who is lefthanded. A 4th seems like a good return for a guy you will not be resigning.

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