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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 18, 2018 at 9:51 a.m.
Thread: Help Others!!!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Well I suspect we've all said things in job interviews that we didn't entirely mean. I am sure Alzner meant that he wants to help the Habs win. And, contrary to what many think, the Habs are not as sorry as the Leafs fans would like to believe. I am very much looking forward to the day Weber shows us what he's like when his knee and ankle are both healthy (that knee injury he was playing through was 3 years old). Max Pacioretty goes into this season with something to prove ... and will. I am a believer that Domi will be a step up on Galchenyuk, who is on his way to drinking himself out of the league (think Derek Sanderson skills and head). If Mete, Reilly and Juulsen can be better than rookies, and Carey Price returns to form as one of the top 5 or 10 goalies in the league, this won't be a bad year.</div></div>

I really think the Habs are a few SMART and SIMPLE moves away from being a wild car team. The issue is management. Miss managing of assets, miss managing of prospects. The Habs don't need to rebuild this team, they need to rebuild that head office. I think if they brought in a no bullshit vet to really lock down that locker room this is a completely different team. Im think if they can talk Jumbo Joe to sign a one year 3mill contract, someone with so much respect that the kids can go, "man, thats a pro, I need to be like him". Then this team is completely different. Honestly, I am sad to see what is happening in Van, in Ott, in Mon, even Calgary/Edmonton. I want Canadian teams to compete I want them to be the best. I want people to dread the Canadian swing like teams use to dread the Cali swing. I want teams to cross our border and think, "aw f*ck, this is going to be a rough couple days". I want to see an all Canadian final. And honestly, thank God for the Leafs and Jets, because without them this was going to be another boring year in Hockey.

In summation, I really hope the Habs aren't as bad as everyone thinks. I have my fingers crossed for CAL and EDM too.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 6:13 p.m.
Thread: Stripping it to the studs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valiev is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.</div></div>

Preach it!
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 2:55 p.m.
Thread: Future Canadiens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>This is fun except there's precious little on which to base all this optimism. Aside from being pretty good at drafting defencemen, the Habs history of drafting and developing forwards is pathetic. Were it not for Gallagher, who has exceeded every scouts' wildest expectations, the Habs have hardly anything to show from the drafting of forwards: Scherbak (???), McCarron (!!!) JDLR and Lehkonen (meh)... So why do we assume Kotkeniemi and Poehling are going to break that pattern of mediocrity? I hope you're right, but I've stopped expecting it.

For a guy who comes from an industry that's all about quality control, it's amazing that Molson hasn't busted more heads in his scouting ranks.</div></div>

This is a major reason why Sylvain Lefebvre was fired (albeit years too late) and why they hired Joel Bouchard for the Rocket. The also added Dominique Ducharme to the pro bench. Overall their prospect/young player development should vastly improved if the coaching successes they had in junior continue. So while you continuously look to the past, you need to keep in mind that they've undergone a massive overhaul here. I've long believed this was and would lead to their downfall and it shows. The Habs didn't necessarily draft bad in the past, but any development was basically solely on the player themselves.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 12:52 p.m.
Thread: GTD move your best player
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Agreed. The problem is that more than most positions, goaltending is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately job. If Price had put up his 2016-17 numbers last year, the Habs wouldn't have sucked as much and no one would be questioning the $10M/year (they might question the term, but by then, he'll be a painless buyout if needed).

Also, worth remembering, after every CBA negotiation, we've ended up with a compliance buyout window. It's a safe bet that if Price is washed up and playing like he did last year, Mr. Molson will cut a cheque and cut his losses.</div></div>

Completely agree with the buyout option. I never thought about that (as I am sure our good friend that was bashing Price's contract hadn't either). The Habs will be fine: They may not be the best this season or next, but they'll come around eventually. They always do.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread: Little moves, big return (Tor and Chi)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>A 40-point RHD is worth the same as a 60-point C, especially to a team that just replaced that C with a marquee UFA in Tavares. As I said, maybe there's another smaller piece (Byron?) that needs to be included, but the deal would help both clubs.

As for the division-rivalry crap, let's get our heads out of the 1980s. When the league was 6 teams, they all traded freely with one another. Perhaps that's what ails the NHL most of all -- that and the fact that GMs are such wussies that they won't use offer sheets to keep their colleagues in check. If there were risks to losing RFAs, these idiots would be a lot more judicious about spending like drunks on UFAs. But that's a battle for another day.</div></div>

A 40 point dman? Petry has done it once in his career and never hit 30+ before it, is also 30 years old.

Kadri has multiple 30+ goals seasons to his name, Multiple 50+ point seasons, is 27 years old and signed to a very reasonable contract.

Center depth is key to a Stanley cup. Moreso than defense. (But still important obviously)

I've fought tooth and nail for Petry as a player being good so I have no bias against him at all but I won't pump his tires more than is warranted. The same will go for Kadri, who despite my seemingly defense of him, can't stand the rat one bit.

As for the 1980's crap, who is charge of most NHL teams?? People who are from the 1980's and still have an affinity for it. We've finally in 2018 pretty much seen the end of the goon in hockey, nearly 15 years after they probably lost their place in it. (2005 lockout) I don't disagree with you, who gives a darn which team your trading with as long as it makes you better but you and I are not the ones in charge. The guys with 1980's type mentality are. There is a reason broadcasters and media people still bring it up. Its still happening in todays NHL and GM's nowadays still think that way. Maybe younger GM's like Dubas and Chayka will break that mold but as long as there are meat heads like Chiarelli and Bergevin, it will still be used as an excuse.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread: BUFFALO FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I didn't say Weber was scrap, but Sabres could spend 7.8 on UFA and keep their picks. This is one reason that many high priced players don't be traded. Teams would spend money on "their guys" and keep those young assets in the trade. Weber could be traded but it won't be for just picks, money would have to returned to the Habs. Probably one reason Karlsson hasn't been traded. Teams have to sent long term money back to the Sens for any hope of resigning Karlsson. Sure Ellis might resign Nashville but I don't know why you think it's a lock. Ellis is from Hamilton, and if home means anything (I think it's overrated) maybe the Sabres or Leafs could be in the running too. Sabres have two RHD Ristolainen and Bogosian, so it's not like a non playoff team is begging for another.
If Weber is traded it almost has to be a team that thinks Weber put them "over the top". But most teams are near the cap and really can't take on his 7.8m contract even short term. And yes Weber's 7.8m nine years left is a big detriment for any team. Canadiens and Sabres are somewhat is the position...out of the playoffs and the do have pieces in place for their rebuild. Why do you think Weber would be so valuable to the Sabres and not to the Canadiens?</div></div>

IMO the Sabres are better now with all the pieces they've brought in, than they were before the ROR trade. I do believe that Weber would bring a dimention that could bring them over the top.

Ellis as a FA would have the luxury of having a choice. I'd bet he'd want to stay in NSH 1st and foremost since they are cup contenders or sign with another contender. Unless BUF brings it this year and pulls a Colorado resurgence, they're probably far down his list right now.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 10, 2018 at 9:12 a.m.
Thread: BUFFALO FANS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Buffalo might be the one place in the NHL that has a harder UFA sell than Montreal.

I don't like this trade at all. Say what you will about Weber, last year was the first year in which he missed considerable action. Even then, playing on a bad ankle, he managed 16 points in 26 games. Taken out over a full season, that's 51 points. That's not washed up by any measure.

The only reason for BUFF to do this trade is because they want Dahlen mentored and protected by one of the better RDs in the game. For the same reason, I don't know why MTL would do this deal. Mete and Juulsen need mentoring now. Coming up the pipe are a few more solid D prospects. Even when Larry Robinson slowed down a bit, he and Rick Green had huge roles in developing Chris Chelios, Jyrki Lumme, Petr Svoboda, Mathieu Schneider and Eric Desjardins. Only Svoboda was a first-rounder in that group, which meant there was a lot of good on-ice schooling that went into getting the other guys up to Norris-contender status.</div></div>

That's exactly my perspective on what type of value Weber would bring to BUF.

If we still had Segachev I'd keep Weber as a mentor. But now I just want the Habs to tank. Keeping Weber and Price would be risking MTL finishing in the middle of the pack and further away from a top 5 draft pick. I'm all in for the rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 9, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread: Little moves, big return (Tor and Chi)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>I don't love Kadri, but I don't love Petry either. That said, Kadri would do more to help the Habs than he will the Leafs; and Petry would be a rock in that RHD position for the Leafs, who really need a top-4 player there. I am not sure there are a lot of other team willing to send a top-4 Dman for Kadri, for all the reason your own reticence suggests.</div></div>

I think there would be plenty teams willing to send a top 4 rock over there for Kadri in a heartbeat. Unless you know of other 30+ goals scoring centers signed to less than 5M contracts long term? He is totally a **** disturber but I know teams will look the other way for that. Aint a gosh darn team in the NHL that wouldn't take Marchand on their team and he is literally the most hated player in the league. (in terms of antics)
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 9, 2018 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread: Pacioretty for Nuge
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Truebeliever</b></div><div>Not a huge loss if the goal is to improve the offence and actually become a dominant playoff team.</div></div>

I posted a bunch of reasons above, not sure if you've seen them. But, have you seen what Nuge does to McDavid? In their 13 games together last season, McDavid scored 27 points - that a <strong>170 point pace</strong>. RNH scored 17 for a <strong>107 point pace</strong>. They literally tore through the competition (28GF - 17GA with an AHL RW)... during that span (15 last games of the season) RNH missed two games with a minor injury and McDavid went scoreless with a -5 rating, so this isn't just RNH riding CMD's coattails. Pacioretty MIGHT have that effect on Connor, but the odds are very, very slim. If Max scores 100 next to Connor you can bet he'll price himself out of Edmonton's reach, while Nuge is still under contract for two more years (after this one). Plus Nuge is 25 and Max is 30, Prime v past-prime.

I like Pacioretty a LOT and would certainly want to see him on the Oilers roster (he'd be dynamite on Draisaitl's wing, IMO), but not at the cost of Nugent-Hopkins.