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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3 at 5:03 p.m.

Thread: Necas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I know it is was just spitballing.</div></div>

Now I could see the canes having interest in fiala, but the package would have to be more picks and prospects based

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3 at 4:59 p.m.

Thread: Necas

Moving necas is just a nonstarter for the canes

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 2 at 9:47 a.m.

Thread: Depth at forward

Trading nino doesn’t make sense. The canes should be adding another forward in addition to nino to create more scoring depth. The goal would be to push nino to the 3rd line if we get another top 6 winger. Swapping nino for senko doesn’t change much imo

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31 at 8:01 a.m.

Thread: Team

Canes have drury and Lorentz who can both play 4c. I would rather spend the money on a top 6 lw, like through trade

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 29 at 7:08 p.m.

Thread: lines

The canes would probably strongly consider this, but I would have more interest in Marchessault. What would the likely ask be for him from the canes?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28 at 9:43 p.m.

Thread: What else is needed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Saad or Tatar would be more premium pickups that I’d like but don’t see those happening at this point.

Via trade I’d think guys like - Kilorn, R. Smith, Rakell would be reasonable targets. Tara would be exciting but is high risk and doubt that happens unless Gardiner is moved out. Unless they get a great deal for Tara since it seems like market isn’t too hot on him.

Low risk / high reward options via FA - Kase, Kahun, probably some others I’m not thinking of right now. I’d imagine this is the route they end up going based on how this FO operates. Plus sounds like they want to give Drury and potentially some prospects a shot this year to make the team so they probably don’t want to block them too much.</div></div>

Agree on all of this. Could see jarvis getting a shot as well as drury

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28 at 9:12 p.m.

Thread: how an eichel trade affects next year 2022

probably not enough for eichel

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28 at 7:41 p.m.

Thread: What else is needed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>imawesome</b></div><div>Already got Niederreiter. No need for Saad</div></div>

I think there may be players that could be a better fit but they would all be via trade. The canes need more depth scoring and that is mainly what i was looking for here. I do agree that nino and saad are similar players

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28 at 6:59 p.m.

Thread: Where the Canes Might Go

I totally agree on the Laine target. I think the offer would have to be bigger most likely

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17 at 11:46 a.m.

Thread: qwzsev

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I’m with BadDeals. Relatively realistic but would much prefer somebody like Saad to Hoffman. Just seems like a much better fit in the system and lower risk than Hoffman. Not sure Montour is worth that honestly tho, I see his ceiling as a second pair guy and think this could be a stretch but not a ton of options to even being trying to replace Hamilton</div></div>

Agreed. I dont live hoffman but its something at least. I think landeskog would be perfect on the first line personally

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 3:18 p.m.

Thread: GRIT GRIT GRIT GRIT WINS IN THE PLAYOFFS

I’d do that deal from a canes perspective

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:39 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>5.7M AAV & 3.2M cash for a player that filled a need playing 18+ mins a night. What you’re asking is 5M AAV, a retention slot for 2 years, and 3.75M cash for someone who isn’t going to contribute to Detroit. For reference look up how much Marleau’s dead space cost Toronto or compare the Staal deal to what you’re proposing.</div></div>

Yes i understand that, but the marleau deal the cap hit had to all be absorbed by a team in one season which raises the price significantly. The 2.5 for 2 seasons has no effect on detroit's cap as they wont be near the limit in the 2 years. If it doesnt work because detroit will only take a first so be it, but i maintain that is to rich on an ask

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yztnuK</b></div><div>something i would consider, but i know based on numerous reports/suggestions, Ownership wont</div></div>

The way i looked at it was you paid a 3rd last year and you got 1 year of the player + a 2nd to take a small cap hit for the next 4 years

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>We got a player we needed too in that Staal deal. And the $$ was only 3.2 million.

Detroit will decline for anything less than a 1st.</div></div>

I think a 1st is just way too steep of an ask. Maybe i would add a B prospect to the deal or something. If the cost is a 1st it just doesnt make sense for the canes, it is way to big of a risk for the canes

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>That’s not 2.5M I’m retention. It’s 5M in retention since it’s 2 years plus the contract is backloaded so you’d be looking at a first round pick to facilitate that from a third party.</div></div>

The price for detroit to take a total of 5 mil cap hit from mark staal last year was a 2nd. The cap hit for tarasenko is spread across 2 years so i think a 2nd is fair in this instance

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Can't see Vancouver retaining that much.</div></div>

Probably true and its not super necessary. I would drop the retention to 500k

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: Interesting possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yztnuK</b></div><div>From a Vancouver perspective - Ownership will not retain salary on multi-year deals.
What would the trade look like if.....and/or,
1. No retained salary
2. Bean is included
3. UFA rights to Hakanpaa</div></div>

What if the retention was dropped to 500k and the 4th was upgraded to a 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 11 at 9:52 a.m.

Thread: Landeskog

Nino isnt a cap dump and you dont even need to move him. Martinook isnt coming back, replace him with an elc (drury). Foegele will also be traded so that opens up even more cap. With that space you can fit nino.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10 at 3:00 p.m.

Thread: Hall

Trades all look decent value wise. Don’t understand the Howden move, would rather give geekie or drury the spot

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10 at 9:55 a.m.

Thread: Tarasenko

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>I really do like Dunn tho and think he’d be a great fit. I’m pretty high on Bean but if we made this deal I’d be fine with risking losing him if Francis doesn’t want to deal with canes in getting a sweetener to not pick him.</div></div>

The other option would be to do a deal with tarasenko 2 mil retained, and go after Martinez as a UFA. I am a big fan of dunn as well, so i do think he would be a great addition

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10 at 9:50 a.m.

Thread: Tarasenko

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Problem with that is STL very likely moves Dunn prior to ED otherwise he’ll probably be the one taken. Guess you could deal with Seattle if that’s the case but in general I’m weary of dealing with Seattle if I’m the canes. I know Francis isn’t in the business of helping any teams but I’d imagine he’ll take a harder line with us versus any other team</div></div>

Yeah that is probably the case. Maybe the best bet is to just leave dunn out of the trade and just sign a UFA to play LD on the 2nd pair. Im actually going to edit the team tell me what you think

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10 at 9:45 a.m.

Thread: Tarasenko

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Not sure I see the value in add Tarasenko and his salary and adding another somewhat expensive piece to a stacked blue line while giving up assets and taking up cap space.</div></div>

The Blue line isnt really stacked anymore. Dunn would be a direct replacement for Skjei

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10 at 9:43 a.m.

Thread: Tarasenko

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>Probably have to incentivize Francis to take Skjei over Bean. Would imagine if both are available he’d go with Bean and I could see him not making any deals with Carolina bc of how things ended, similar to McPhee and the caps.

If that happens I guess trade Skjei for assets and find a cheaper replacement, may also not be able to resign mcginn so you can use that cap space.

All in all I like the look of this team and think it’s a pretty realistic offseason.</div></div>

I was doing the the STL trade with the assumption it was after the expansion draft, thus skjei is the only one left exposed. If its before then, i would give Seattle a pick to take skjei

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 9 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: Canes Should Go For It

I do not like the trochek trade. The canes spent years looking for a 2C and they finally found one. If they were going to trade him it would need to be a much bigger return than a middle 6 winger and a mid round pick. The Tarasenko deal is tough because the canes are taking on so much cap, i know they get rid of gardiner but Tarasenko at full cap and 1/2 retained nino is alot of money. I dont hate the idea of getting tarasenko but my offer would exceed foegele and a 1st. Martinook is not getting 3.5 and he isnt going to get anything from the canes.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 9 at 8:58 a.m.

Thread: Canes 21-22

That’s more than i would be willing to give up for gourde. Tampa has no leverage they have to move out a ton of money. I’d do it if you removed the first probably

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