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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread: KK Is a Goner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>That’s true, but Granlund had succcess before PIT, which I believe was more of a bad fit system wise than it was an indictment on the player. KK is also a similar profile to players Grier likes to pick up, but he definitely went overboard this season which has led to us being beyond bad, and KK’s contract is very scary, and could prevent players like Bystedt and Edstrom from their places when the time comes. Given the nice buyout structure I would say no more than a 2nd probably to dump him, but it could be less depending on other pieces of the deal vs whether or not the canes are OK with the buyout. I’ve seen other people say 3-5th round picks but that seems too cheap for my taste.</div></div>

Maybe something in the ballpark of KK, CAR's '24 3rd, and a couple of 4th-6th round picks (Canes have plenty to choose from in the next 3 years) for the signing rights to Chmelevski? CAR sold off their '25 and '26 3rds previously otherwise you could maybe send two 3rds.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5 at 11:06 a.m.
Thread: KK Is a Goner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>The timeline that the sharks are operating on is just different. Grier has indicated multiple times the plan is to start to try and win in 2-3 years, so KK contract is counter intuitive. But the main issue is the sharks cant have another year where they are THIS bad, that will be detrimental to the developing players at the club, so i imagine our focus would be on the vets, meaning this deal would have to be worth it for the sharks to accept, and this is not it. KK’s contract is a huge risk, especially considering what it might mean for our internal cap structure moving forward. He should be a 3 mil player on one of the best teams in the league with all the support in the world. the sharks can give him none of that so we shouldn’t assume he can be better. Gonna have to put assets in the trade to dump him, but given his cheap buyout i imagine the canes would do that first.</div></div>

What cost would you put on taking KK? The one counter argument I'd give you is that the Sharks can give KK the opportunity that no other team really can while they're in their rebuild, which is more TOI and better PP opportunities that he doesn't see in CAR. Part of the reason he looks worse statistically than he probably is in actuality is the opportunities given/not given with the Canes that he could get on a rebuilding team like San Jose. A current comparison that comes to mind is Granlund's success with SJS with increased opportunity that he never really had with PIT and to some extent with NSH too.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5 at 10:30 a.m.
Thread: KK Is a Goner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>KK definitely is a negative asset now. Sharks need more centers but, another young center on what is looking like a worse and worse contract isnt what we need.</div></div>

The Sharks won't be competitive for a playoff spot until the end of this decade which is right around the time KK's deal will expire (29-30). With the cap continuing to rise, you'll still need to hit the cap floor going forwards even as you finally tear down the pieces around the team. On top of that, obviously the sharks will start to bring in some of their younger kids in the next couple seasons but you still need players to be in your lineup to hold you over, and while he hasn't lived up to his draft spot KK is not a bad player, he's a decent 3rd liner who at 23 still has potential to be a 50 point center in the league. If he doesn't work out in San Jose, the buyout is very cheap, long, but very cheap.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 5 at 9:30 a.m.
Thread: KK Is a Goner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. I don't see Hughes going the OS route

2. If he did, I don't think he is dumb enough not to sign his RFA's the year before their expiry</div></div>

I agree and don't think they'll try another offersheet after how the Aho/KK series went (regardless of how KK's been playing, they initiated the conflict and ended up losing both players), however if they did they probably would have to offer Necas $8-10m on a 1 year deal with an extension worked out beyond that similar to how the KK offersheet went where you drastically overpay for 1 year with a long term extension figured out ahead of time. And for MTL, they have so many RFAs in the next 2-3 years that it'd be tough to proactively sign every player before expiry, there's a lot of choices for a retaliatory OS that CAR could choose from.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5 at 1:32 p.m.
Thread: Check Down Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>and DeAngelo sucks and fixes nothing, just like Klingberg who sucks and fixes nothing. They need to bring in good defenders and not ones who suck. Especially not ones who are notes pieces of feces with a history of locker room and off ice issues</div></div>

What other RHD is Toronto going to go get that fits in their cap structure and will come relatively cheap? If they move a 1st for Walker they also have to dump a salary which complicates things even if there's retention on Walker. When DeAngelo has played this year with Skjei on the 2nd pair he's been pretty good in that top-4 role, and he's been very professional about being scratched for 2/3 of the year so I'd say the attitude issues should be behind him (he wasn't traded from CAR the first time due to attitude, that was purely due to financials). The main reason he isn't playing in the Canes lineup is due to him and Orlov having poor chemistry together and Chatfield playing really solid as the 6D, Tony may be a lot of things but he's not a bad player. If he was traded to TO he'd play PP1 and third pair minutes with either McCabe or Benoit as a D-partner to help shelter him at even strength.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5 at 1:11 p.m.
Thread: Check Down Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>why do the leafs want another defender who cant defend?</div></div>

Regardless of whether or not it was the right move, they brought in Klingberg to run PP1 and take some of the pressure off Reilly to play in that role at the start of the year. Going into the playoffs, you get a RHD puck moving defenseman who is more than capable of running and distributing on a PP with Matthews, Nylander, Marner, etc. for slightly over league minimum while only giving up a 5th. The leafs don't have a lot of capital to trade out and certainly wouldn't do so without a player with multiple years left on a deal or an extension in place for an expiring contract (in either case they'd likely need to move a contract out to make the cap work). This gives them a cheap option to run a PP that could be the best of all teams in the postseason. Plus you could pair him with McCabe on the 3rd Dpair to shelter him at even strength with Benoit as the extra D.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread: Jiricek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChucktheFNG</b></div><div>Columbus' biggest need is not center, it's goalie. They have their core Centers of the future in Fantilli, Sillinger, Johnson, and Voronkov that can play up and down the lineup an on each other's wings. A transitional #1 center like Lindholm might be their answer, but I would think they would rather upgrade in net.</div></div>

Fantilli is the 1C of the future for sure, but I don't think the front office envisions Johnson playing C in the NHL. Voronkov has been a nice addition and has continued to get better over the course of the year so maybe he could be the future 2C, In the description I also mentioned building a trade package around Necas instead of KK so maybe that'd be a better fit if Voronkov does solidify himself over the remainder of the season as the 2C. I don't see any team eating Elvis' contract so you may be stuck with him in net and his cap hit unless they buy him out.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 29 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread: Jiricek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>wut?

if we werent a contender, sure KK could be in the deal for a flip but we are trying to contend.</div></div>

I'd argue this proposed team will be just as likely to win a cup in 24-25 as they are this year in 23-24. Jiricek only adds to the "contender" status not just in this year but in the long term future of the team as well and the emergence of Drury as a budding 2C with offensive production while still being defensively responsible has made KK an expendable asset when Ponomarev or a veteran center on a cheaper 1-year deal could play effectively the same role that KK is playing right now. KK is not a bad player by any means, he's just played his way down the lineup while other guys have increased their own stock.