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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
Thread: Pros and Cons
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hazard</b></div><div>I think if Chychrun is comfortable playing the right side for this season, we should 100% go after him. Amirov, Liligren, and a 1st (As per Jeff Mareks reporting that they are looking for Brent Burns from MIN to SJS trade package).

Cap space we can work out in the offseason as I think this is Muzzins last year as a leaf, and Chych can step in on the left abd we can address his right side partner in the off season</div></div>

I don't think Chychrun has, which is the problem. Yeah, id like to have Chychrun on the Leafs, but I don't think I like the idea of moving Liljegren and Amirov for him. At some point you gotta think about the future, and if Robertson and Amirov make the jump to the leafs in the next year or two, that's a HUGE addition to the LW.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Works for me, if its someone to provide some organizational depth thats good with me.</div></div>

You'd probably get a choice of: Kristians Rubins, Mikhail Abramov, Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Filip Krahl or Veeti Miettenen. If the ask is for Abramov or SDA, TOR may ask to reduce the 2nd to a 3rd, as these two got a bit more upside than Miettenen, Krahl and Rubins. Although, Rubins got into (i think) 2 games with us, and he looked outstanding seeing that last year he played most of his time here in Newfoundland. I got to watch him (because that's where im from) and he looked amazing. Very good shutdown defensemen, and the 6'5'' frame is scary to go up against. He ain't afraid to use it either, which has displayed well with the Marlies this year too
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>Thank you for getting back to me, please tell me the URL of your post.
Many Sabre fans think Adams is still making the decisions.
Everything improved when Karmanos was made the "Associate" GM.
Most Sabre fans do not realize how well Hinostroza has played.
You are correct H &amp; H would be great additions, I find it best not to argue, post my opinion and move on.
While you are a Leaf fan do you go to many Sabre games?

EDIT, I actually hope the Sabres sign them both for next year.

SECOND EDIT: I found it.
You made your point and others counter with their opinion.
Stupid comments about Hagg and hits, you mentioned his hits with PHIL but that was countered with why he has many hits with Buffalo.
Only the Sabre fans know how good Hinostroza has played.
Thank you for trying.
Great chatting with you.</div></div>

I personally think the Sabre's should without a doubt. Alot think Hagg is a 7th defencemen, I don't see that. Yeah, maybe a 6th, 5th at best, but he's definitely that 6th cheap defender that gives coaches and teammates the confidence to allow the roster to flow naturally, and by that I mean everybody having roles within the team. I could imagine that if Hagg and Hinostroza were acquired by TOR, Hagg would play the role as a shutdown third pairing guy, probably in games where they are up against good offensive teams, while maybe sitting him while playing teams lower in the standings, allowing some playing time to others... and in the playoffs, you give him more minutes and PK time, helping you defend a lead, or to prevent from going down a goal in the game. He is capable of logging big minutes, and at 1.6 million, that's a bargain in my eyes. Even with Hinostroza as well, you want a guy whos capable of 5v5 scoring. In TOR, we don't have to worry about PP goals, were enough of an offensive threat as it already is right now, but you need guys that can get you that 5v5 point production to get you ahead, something that the Leafs lack sometimes. If im not mistaken, Nylander and Matthews are typically the ones that score most of the time on 5v5, with Bunting, Kerfoot and Kase chipping in also sometimes. Doesnt hurt to add more of that
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13, 2022 at 8:41 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>IMO Buffalo wins the trade if they could sign Holl for and additional couple of years.
You know the Leafs better than I, but the one game against the Sabres Holl looked a little slow but very solid defensively.
I could not remember one mistake he made.
Dahlin with Holl, Power with Jokiharju, Johnson/Samuelsson/?? with Laaksonen/UFA would make a really solid defense.
<strong>EDIT</strong>
I think it would be interesting to hear from other Sabre and Leaf fans.
While you know the Sabres better than most of their fans, IMO most would not want Holl.
I am guessing most Leaf fans do not understand how good Hinostroza can be as it is only his last 50 games that he has rediscovered his MoJo he demonstrated between 2018 and 2019.
Please let me know if you post this trade.</div></div>

No not a lot don't, and I posted another updated ACGM post revisiting this trade, but many leafs fans who came into the thread didn't like the idea of having Hinostroza or Hagg, saying that they didn't need them. IMO, they do, and I firmly believe that leafs fans just don't take notice of some players special assets. We all want the big superstar rental, but forgetting the fact that the cost of getting that superstar will cost more than an arm and a leg, and much more. Not a chance in hell am I giving up picks and future prospects for a superstar player that I'll only get 20 or so games out of, and not be able to resign him, or bring in Chychrun, and not having the money to keep Jack Campbell. Fans have to be more engaged with the players in the league, and know what assts they have, and what flaws they have, like Hinostroza, as I was told he's a very good 5v5 bottom six point producer (in his own right), and adding more bottom six scoring should be one of the leafs priorities heading into the deadline, on top of finding a cheap, reliable shutdown defender (Robert Hagg) and maybe another depth piece somewhere n their lineup. Hinostroza and Hagg makes perfect sense to me for the leafs if they need cheap rentals
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
Thread: Revisiting the Buffalo Trade from Yesterday
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Just my thoughts, but:
-Maybe change Anderson for a slightly better prospect?

-I feel like there's been a lot of discussion around Crouse that he could potentially nab a 1st for the Yotes, given his cheap contract. I don't see how taking a cap dump (Ritchie), and a fringy prospect makes any sense at all?

-I feel like trading Mikheyev is a poor idea. He's a free rental right now, and one of the best penalty killers on the team...you need guys like that in the playoffs.</div></div>

The guys I got here are all known to be on the penalty kill, especially Hagg and Russell. Hinostroza is more of a power play guy so I understand your point there but Crouse is known for being a good penalty killer also. We already got some good PK guys in Kampf, Kase, Kerfoot, Marner, and somewhat in Nylander. The way I see things is that if we trade Mikey and retain salary, and with his good start to the year, we can get more value from other playoff contenders, while still keeping the lineup the same and somewhat better
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
Thread: Revisiting the Buffalo Trade from Yesterday
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>This is a downgrade across the board. None of this improves the Leafs</div></div>

Hagg (25GP, 1G, 4A, 5PTS) puts up 150-200 hits per year, the most being 253 with the Flyers 3 years ago, while having 100 in only 20-30 games last year and currently has 49 hits this year, AND matches this with blocked shots as well... don't need him?

Hinostroza (33GP, 7G, 9A, 16PTS) is only behind Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, Kerfoot, and Bunting in scoring... don't need him?

Crouse (32GP, 9G, 8A, 17PTS) is a middle six physical presence and is only behind Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander, and Bunting in scoring. OH! and I almost forgot, another player who puts up 150-200 hits a year, his most being 288 hits 3 year ago, while this year in 32 games, has already registered 89... don't need him?

Russell (14GP, 0G, 2A, 2PTS) holds an NHL record for the most blocked shots in NHL history, who is consistently and reliably sound in his own end... don't need him?
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>You know Buffalo better than most Sabre fans.
Only Kase, Nylander, Tavares and Matthews have more goals than Hinostroza.
Only Muzzin has more more hits and no Leaf has more blocked shots than Hagg, while hits/blk sh per 60 is higher than any Leaf.
While they appear to be fringe performers to many, the have value.
Skyraider112 is correct, having to take Ritchie would reduce the value of the trade for Buffalo.

On the other hand Holl with Dahlin would be a great pairing.
Ritchie may have value to another team at 50% reduced.
If there was a home for Ritchie prior to closing this deal, I would make the trade as it would then favor the Sabres.</div></div>

So maybe it could work out as:

Hagg (50% retention)
Hinostroza
6th

FOR

Holl
2nd

??

I feel maybe buffalo might want something else out of it. Cant see it being a top prospect, but maybe someone like a Mikko Kokkenen
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 12, 2022 at 9:07 a.m.
Thread: Steve Dangles Prospect Pyramid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Colts_927</b></div><div>I dont know why ovechkinov is so low</div></div>

Hes at 4 for me because he is still in the minor leagues over in Russia. Yes, he may be producing over a point per game in the MHL, but he ain't getting much action in the KHL. You also got to factor in their size and strength as well, as he lists at 5'11'', 165 lbs, which is not really ideal at the NHL level. You could make a case for Amirov being under sized too, bt he's at the KHL level now, thus is why he's in tier 2 for me. Another example is Joe Miller. He's scoring the lights out in the USHL, but he's 5'9'', 149 lbs, suuuuper undersized, and will need to bulk up extremely if he wants to play in the NHL, hence why I also have him in tier 4
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>On one hand, Kane seems like an idiot who at 30 years old, hasn't grown up yet.

On the other hand, he's still a guy that could put up 30/30, and is twice (three times) the player Dubas was hoping to get when they signed Ritchie.

Considering Simmonds is a member of the Hockey Diversity Alliance with Kane, I'm assuming he'd know him better than most. I'm also assuming Dubas would get Simmonds two cents if he were consicering signing him.

If the Leafs were to sign him for $1Mish or less, I'd be OK with it knowing Dubas figures the risk is worth it.</div></div>

I mean, its worth a gamble, but ya gotta way the pros and cons and think about how the others on the team may feel about getting him. You make a good point about Simmonds, which I completely forgot about, but I also wonder if they do bring in Kane, will JT lay down the rules with him, making sure he isn't a distraction to the team as they push for the playoffs. JT may be quiet, but I get the feeling he's a no-nonsense type of captain, and someone who will reel in Kane from his antics, or at least try to.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>noobmaster69</b></div><div>If the Leafs sign him they can just send him to the Marlies if they players don't like him - sucks for Kane but really if it doesn't work out it doesn't hurt the Leafs. Might as well take a shot....</div></div>

Thats the idea I was pondering with. It's a prove-it contract, so if he DOESN'T prove it, well then we can just bury him in the minors. Plain and simple. But people forget that he is a very good player, and people do change. Galchenyuk was a good reclaimation project, could Kane also be one? Who knows. Either way, I just hope that if the Leafs do pull the trigger and bring him in, that they keep him on a short leash, much like what Carolina has done with DeAngelo, which from what I can tell, has worked tremendously seeing that there hasn't been any conflicts with him yet, and he's producing good numbers.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 11, 2022 at 10:49 a.m.
Thread: Should the Leafs nab Kane plus TDL move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>no, kane is a selfish cancer of a player who cant even be trusted to keep covid protocol and my god that buffalo trade is terrible. the leafs arnt going to make their defence so much worse to get another bottom 6er they dont need</div></div>

The leafs have 2 powerplay quarterbacks in Rielly and Sandin. Im not paying a kings ransom for the likes of Klingberg or Chychrun if I'm only getting half a season out of them, while sacrificing top prospects and high draft picks just to have one of them. Robert Hagg puts up anywhere in the ballpark of 150-200 hits per year and also blocks ALOT of shots. People say that the leafs don't need certain players because they simply don't KNOW the players. Hinostroza is also a fine good player too, but again, you don't watch him. That guy is one hell of a hard worker, and he's always playing with a chip on his shoulder, and can also score a point or two for ya now and then.

As for Kane, I have to agree with you that yes, he is cancer to the locker room. I would be a little uneasy with him being on the leafs knowing the trouble he causes, but the guy has stated he wants to be on a contender. The leafs are one. You know Dubas is doing his homework on him and checking in
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.
Thread: TDL 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Warning. Long-winded hypothesis.

Over the Xmas break I was thinking about those extensions. Obviously this is the optimistic view, but I don't think it's not to out to lunch.

But I think the pandemic, the overpays, the "greed" might come back to benefit the Leafs in the end.

Obviously Shanny saying take less to build something great fell on deaf ears the first time around, but now that they all have a bit of $$ in their pockets, will it work this time?

Rielly (again) has set the table and took less than market. Will Campbell follow suit? If everyone's fav guy takes a bit less, will that spark the rest?

Even if it doesn't, when all their deals expire, the league will still be feeling effects of the Pandemic. Top salaries have more or less been paused the last couple of years. As long as MacKinnon doesn't blow the roof off the "glass ceiling" that freeze will likely still be in effect more or less.

So, IMO the big 4 could cost the same today as they do 3/4 years down the road. Matthews will become highest paid player $13.5M on long term deal. That'll riase the bar a bit then McDavid will smash it 2/3 years later. Nylander $8.5 or $9M seems reasonable. Did marner learn his lesson? Surely to God he'd be happy with $11M long term. Tavares being the wildcard, he would have made $100M or more, but if he's still effective (likely based on how he looks now) maybe he's looking at a Pavelski deal (and shift to the wing). Maybe $7M.

13.5+9+11+7 = $40.5M.

So, if Leafs can weather the salary cap storm this summer, they could be setting themselves up for some long-term cap certainty.</div></div>

Wow, that is a very good point. I didn't think of the pandemic side of things when it came to the cap. However, i didn't ponder the thought of Rielly taking a discount, and the possibility of Campbell following suite (he did say many times he doesn't want to leave and that he loves playing in Toronto). I wonder if Campbell really does take anywhere in the ballpark of 4-5 mil per, would it spark the likes of the core 4 to also go in that direction. I pray to god that they do
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10, 2022 at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: TDL 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barilko14</b></div><div>Exactly.

Leafs could have a very good LW group within a couple of years of Bunting, Robertson, Amirov and Knies and it would cost them likely $6M or less. All 3 of the prospects are looking like surefire NHL locks (barring injuries/more injuries). If they can have some playoff success, they still have work to do this summer (Campbell, Mrazek, Ritchie, etc.), but past that, if they give out the right term to their RFAs, they can be in solid shape for awhile, in terms of prospects/youth replacing vets and good amount of cap flexibility.</div></div>

Most of the times when I'm doing these ACGM stuff, its because i see trade rumours going around on social media, and would be curious as to how they would work out, plus, to see others reactions. Would I want Klingberg? Yeah obviously, but I wouldn't do the trade above, hence why I don't believe the leafs should be targeting big names like Klingberg, Chychrun, Hertl, etc...
Cost will be way too expensive and in years to come when Marner, Matthews, Tavares and Nylander's contracts are up, you gotta have potential replacements on the ready
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
Thread: TDL 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>I would do that Arizona trade were it ever on the table. I doubt it would be.

Klingberg would be a wonderful add. Its just that the Leafs really aren't in a position to add a player of that magnitude with their cap situation and a depleted draft capital pool. At some point, you have to consider the future.


Its probably best to let someone else overspend on Klingberg. Because it will happen. I am certain of that.</div></div>

tbh with ya, I'm in the same boat when it comes to thinking about the future. Yeah, id be happy with having Klingberg, but id be more intrigued with a Scott Mayfield or a Ben Chariot, as they come at a cheaper expense, that way, we hold on to the future's. Its only a matter of time before the likes of Robertson, Amirov, Niemela and Knies joins the team
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 21, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread: Eichel Package
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Robertson has had a handful of injuries now and his hype train has really fallen off. He had a good D+1 year but nothing really impressive since. He's still a fine prospect but Krebs definitely has a higher ceiling and plays a more important role.

Niemela is also fine but again you are over valuing him. He is not blue chip, he is not an A+ prospect.

How does Ritchie not have negative value? Come on man take off your blinders here.

You would have to add Kerfoot and not remove Niemela, i really dont yhink you get *** far off the value is</div></div>

Niemela not an blue chip? Dude, the youngster is 19 years old and is leading the LaLiga in points as a defenseman. If not leading, very close to leading. He was named WJC best defenseman last year and his game keeps improving by the day.