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Armchair-GM
Jul. 1, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
Thread:
They could still get EK and a Goal Scorer
Why is ANA getting a super similar (debatably better)return while they are giving up no players and taking less salary cap?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:46 a.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>The "insider" who reported on the interest in Kaapo is considered by most in the burgh to be a buffoon, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. Haha</div></div>
Okay haha, I can’t I actually didn’t know that, good to know. I really don’t keep up with my insiders other than the Sharks, and don’t know who’s credible, especially when I see someone repost it and don’t know who the original insider was
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:44 a.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>I understand you're new here and don't comprehend how ACGMs work. You can have your fun without publishing. Once you put it out for public viewing you open yourself to critique. If you cannot handle the criticism then don't publish.</div></div>
I’ll handle good criticism and respond to it, like I did with yours, explains why I made the trade as I did. All you said to that is pretty much pointless bashing with no critique and no helpful advice
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:43 a.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>I understand you're new here and don't comprehend how ACGMs work. You can have your fun without publishing. Once you put it out for public viewing you open yourself to critique. If you cannot handle the criticism then don't publish.</div></div>
Look at all my posts, comments, etc. I take critique and have actual conversations with people in the comments, I talked with 4 other people on this post and had actual good conversations where I feel like I learned something and maybe they did too. You’re the one coming onto my post and trying to be salty, I’m simply giving a thought and basing opinions off of other mock trades and my knowledge. Just because I haven’t posted almost 1200 times doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about. I’ll agree, I don’t know everything and probably frequently get trade values and stuff like that wrong, however, that’s literally every single person on ACGM. We all don’t have a full time job as a GM and are just coming on to give thoughts and ideas about a sport we love.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>I don't believe you've seen anyone on here giving Lysell away for nothing. If you have then they're even more delusional than you.</div></div>
Jesus Christ someone is salty because of a mock trade haha. I’m not just making up that I saw that, plus I already addressed this in another comment so go check it out. Plus, this isn’t giving him away for nothing, it’s getting a mid round pick back, a cheap contract, and a cap dump. It’s a reasonable amount of trade value and not much of a difference as you may seem (at least for what I thought Lysell was worth from other bruins fans). I’m making mock trades for fun guy, calm tf down haha
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>Petry didn't play bad. We just want to get younger if possible. Kaapo is a HUGE gamble and has a cap hit that can't be buried. No way would PGH give a 2nd that can become a 1st with one series win but also a 4th. Usually conditions are "if they reach the SCF" or "reach the ECF". Not if they win a round</div></div>
I agree that Kaapo is a huge gamble and that PIT should not go for him, however, apparently PIT has legit interest in him for some reason. I figured that because SJS could take 4 million off of PIT’s hands they could get a good or at least decent younger player in free agency, which would basically cost them only a 2nd rounder.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JackChambers</b></div><div>Lysell is an A tier already developed prospect, a second rounder instead of a 4th might get the deal done, but a first is more realistic</div></div>
I see, I knew that he was a good prospect just not that good. If he is truly that good of a prospect then I could totally see BOS denying this deal
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>PIT & BOS say no. Doubt we'd get a 2nd for taking on Petry. Also imagine SJ is on Petry's no list. BOS isn't going to give up Lysell for that much
WSH & TOR probably say yes? those seem fair. I imagine TOR will just buy Murray out, but time is running out
Hopefully SJ can get a bit more for Karlsson than that but I'd love to see him in SEA</div></div>
NYI paid CHI a 2nd rounder to take Bailey for 1 year at 5 mil, I figured that taking Petry for 2 years at 6.5 will get more than a 2nd round pick honestly, especially with throwing Kahkonen in (who PIT is interested in). That’s why I included the 2nd rounder. Also for BOS, I’ve seen some bruins fans shop lysell for cheap, I also know that they want to get rid of Mike Reilly, and get cheap contracts. I figured that this would be best for both teams as it would open up cap space and give them a better player at D for less and longer. If BOS values Lysell higher than I thought though I could totally see them denying this deal.
And for SEA, I think that Karlsson should deserve to be traded for more, however with his contract and age he won’t, even for retaining 14 Mil over 4 years. I think that this is a somewhat realistic package for him that both sides should I be interested.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>I imagine TO would give more for Karlsson</div></div>
I hope so, but, I think that this is being realistic. I really don’t think teams will pay more than this for him, even though he is worth far more in my opinion.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>That is NEVER gonna happen</div></div>
Why not? It is reported that PIT likes Kaapo, and wants to move Petry. This would let them shed about 4 million In cap for the next 2 years while providing a backup goalie. NYI just paid CHI a 2nd round pick today to takes Baileys 1 year 5 mil contract. Petry has a higher cap hit at two years. This if effectively a cap dump for PIT while getting a goalie back. The cap dump market has been set and it looks like SJS should get more than this for taking his awful contract.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.
Thread:
SJS Post Draft 2324
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruins1054_gmb</b></div><div>Wow. Absolutely not.</div></div>
I’ve seen bruins fans shopping Lysell for cheaper… I thought that taking back a horrible contract in Mike Reilly, as well as a cheap and solid defenseman with Benning, and then a 4th rounder would be adequate. I can see that you don’t believe that it is
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 28, 2023 at 1:22 a.m.
Thread:
Wanch 2
Wow, both of these are absolutely delusional
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.
Thread:
SJS 2023 off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pavelski_tip_in</b></div><div>Although you got pushback from fans of other teams, you did a good job at crafting these trades. Most are approaching fair value, which can't be said of a lot of ACGMs.
I wonder if GMMG is plotting a rebuild like this (i.e. tear it all down for max picks) or whether he tries to slowly turn things around. A Karlsson trade and what we do at goaltender will answer that question.</div></div>
Thank you! I appreciate it.
And I really hope that he is trying to do something like this. Flipping Karl for some good assets and hopefully fixing our goal development system should go a long long way to helping our team in the future.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
Thread:
SJS 2023 off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KrakenTheCode</b></div><div>The closest player Seattle has to a cap dump is Driedger. A change of scenery might be a good way for him to re-establish himself as a viable NHL goalie, as he's a bit of a question mark right now.
If Seattle trades for Karlsson he'd be supplanting Justin Schultz both on the right side of the defense and on the power play, meaning Schultz would also likely be on the move. However since Schultz has positive value Seattle would be able to get assets from a contending team, so he doesn't really fit the idea of a cap dump you're looking for. Ultimately trading for Karlsson is a big risk due to his age, term, and cap hit, even with the retained salary. Whether the Kraken make a move for Karlsson will ultimately depend on whether the offensive boost is worth that risk along with the trade cost.</div></div>
Okay that makes sense. I think that while I love that SEA is doing, I think that a star like Karlsson would greatly bolster both their even strength points, and PP points. SEA also has a couple cut down defenders that I think Karlsson could pair well with. While it may not be the perfect solution, I think that Karlsson could add some great star power to their roster that they don’t really have right now. I don’t know if that’s SEA’s solution, but he would do great there I believe. I think (as a biased sharks fan) that they should take a swing on it, however, like you said, the deal is risky because his contract length and age, even for 8 million.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2023 at 12:29 a.m.
Thread:
SJS 2023 off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Trading 20 for 42 and 43 is a big drop in value. Draftprospects.com has 20 at 6250 points and 42 and 43 combine for 3950</div></div>
That’s kind of what I was thinking too, I looked at a coupon draft value charts and some of them had the 2 2nds higher, some had it the same, and some had it as lower value. I just added a 6th to it because I feel like this years draft is extremely deep, and that there are a lot of players that can be picked intermittently between 20-45 that could all be as good or better than each other.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 2, 2023 at 11:06 p.m.
Thread:
SJS 2023 off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I doubt the Blues would trade a 23 1st for Ferraro. Maaaaybe a 24 1st. But they need to offload an LD first anyway.</div></div>
That’s understandable, I tried to throw in the 3rd and 4th rounders to try and offset this, is there anyone that the blues would try to get rid of at that LD position?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 2, 2023 at 10:57 p.m.
Thread:
SJS 2023 off-season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>The islanders probably aren’t trading the 2023 2nd round pick, due to the fact they already dealt their 2023 1st and 3rd round picks. Also if the isles trade bailey they r doing so in order to clear cap space, so trading for Labanc doesn’t make sense anyway.</div></div>
That’s completely fair, I didn’t see that they traded their 1st, however, now that I think about it I do remember that trade. Do you think that a 3rd would be a fair deal or no?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 31, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
Thread:
Trade down
Sharks should only do this if they absolutely know that Michkov will fall to 6th
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Armchair-GM
May 9, 2023 at 4:26 p.m.
Thread:
Who Says No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dr_Invictus</b></div><div>Steep price to move up two spots</div></div>
I agree, however, while this draft is deep, the top 4 players are the real prize in my opinion.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 28, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
Thread:
Fabbro
I will throw my chair through my window if Grier makes this trade
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 26, 2023 at 11:10 p.m.
Thread:
Rebuild
Sharks aren’t giving up the 35th overall pick and the 50th overall pick for a defenseman with 8 points
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 26, 2023 at 11:08 p.m.
Thread:
Remember When Sharks Fans Thought They Were Gonna Win This Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DevilsInDisguise</b></div><div>They didnt lol</div></div>
When you guys see how Timo plays and fits in with your system, you will see why we wanted a lot for him.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
Thread:
SJS TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>In general, most NHL-active prospects are substantially more valuable than first round picks as they're playing at a discount. ELCs tend to be about half the cost as a typical "quality depth" contract (think Nuutivara) or offer far more still and talent than a typical depth deal (think MacDonald). Given Edmonton's cap situation, how highly Broberg is valued by the organization, and the ceiling he may or may not have, any deal that sees Broberg moved cannot happen. Holland actually shut talks down on Chychrun once Broberg's name came up.
Karlsson's contract is a unique case and I almost don't care about what other teams are paying for cap space right now: Erik Karlsson as he is today is not a guarantee. His production plummeted last year which presents an inordinate amount of risk on the side acquiring him. <strong>San Jose is not retaining on this deal as a favour to Edmonton, but to simply make the contract moveable.</strong> At $11.5M nobody can acquire Karlsson, and nobody should given his injury history and the remaining term on the deal. At the rumoured $2.1M retention, the deal starts to become more palatable and thus discussions about moving the contract can occur. However, we need to maintain a sense of realism: how many contending teams can accommodate a >$9M contract come deadline time? Taking back salary at this point, especially if the Sharks refuse to retain past that rumoured $2.1M mark, is necessary and you no longer get to ask for assets in exchange for that returned salary.
Right now your offer is essentially a top prospect and a third round pick over what I and other Oiler fans will find reasonable and I really think that just comes down to misinterpreting what you're getting in exchange for Karlsson. Bouchard is his immediate replacement. If the Oilers had the luxury of time, Bouchard's name would never enter trade conversations. His underlying numbers are in the ballpark of Hamilton-esque to Karlsson-esque. This piece is the crux of the deal, he is not a throw in. Likewise, Barrie is not a cap dump: he's in the upper echelon for point production and possession numbers this season. Realistically, he has been for 4 of the last 5 seasons. You treat him like a cap dump when acquired from Edmonton but sell at a premium to Pittsburgh: the inconsistencies in your math do not add up. Why doesn't Edmonton just pay less for Karlsson, as they no longer need to include Barrie in the deal, and recoup assets from another team?
I think it's reasonable that most contending teams should be able to accrue about $2M in cap space come the deadline. If we take the retention of $2.1M to heart, this would suppose that the Sharks should be able to expect about $7.4M in salary cap to be returned in a Karlsson deal. The combination of Barrie, Bouchard, and Puljujarvi comes in at just over $8.3M. There is no discrepancy here that would suggest that Broberg and another midround pick be included to facilitate a trade. San Jose can walk away with extra 2023 and 2024 first round picks in tow, a graduated prospect in Bouchard who will in time replace Karlsson as San Jose's #1RD, and a quality puck-moving rearguard that can be flipped at a profit next year. All I would ask is a C-prospect (Coe), Lorentz (depth for Edmonton), and maybe the return of San Jose's 6th round selections in both years as I personally do not like the idea of moving high picks out without low ones being returned.
The Sharks set the precedent of moving out a quality offensive RHD with limiting suitors when they hucked Burns to the Hurricanes for essentially nothing and retained a boatload in the process. Karlsson may be a step up, and the deadline is always more expensive than the offseason, but there's a limit to what the Sharks can actually ask in exchange for Karlsson. The alternative is no trade at all, and by the time he can be moved, San Jose is likely not getting anything of value returned.</div></div>
I totally agree, from what I’ve seen, I would value Broberg higher than a first round pick, especially from the oilers who would most likely have a pick in the mid-high 20s. Taking out Broberg and instead adding a 2024 1st rd pick, do you think that would be a fair deal? The 3rd round pick can also be moved to another team like AZ or CHI with another pick, maybe even if the sharks for some retention.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.
Thread:
SJS TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Overpay!</div></div>
Not if you consider Vrana a next to negative asset. When you compare to taking the contracts of Zaitsev and Nemeth, this is right along the lines of value. For at least on paper, as vrana has like 12 points in 50 games and a 2x5.25mil contract. On the other hand , Barb has a contract of 2x2.5 with 38 points in 50 games.
I think that Wings fans value him higher than he looks on the score sheet, which I totally respect, I just do not necessarily see it in my opinion.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 24, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
Thread:
SJS TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MorHitzSeider</b></div><div>I don't mind Barabanov. He's done very well for himself since his "Clash of the Titans" days. But I don't view Vrana as a negative asset. And CFACGM posters don't really either. Because they keep placing him on their teams 1st line LW.
But they always think Steve Yzerman is a complete moron. They think they can get something for nothing. Barabanov is at least a decent player but we have too many forwards as is. Soderblom is in Grand Rapids and Kaspar might make the team next season.</div></div>
That’s fair, I haven’t watched much of his game, but just seeing the +/-, Small amount of points, decent amount of games, and large contract I thought of him more as a liability. But I guess I could be wrong with this. I just saw barabanov’s (in my opinion) increased points (+25), better +/-, 1/2 the contract size and younger age as a huge upside for Detroit that they can capitalize on, and have him as a small contract next year as well if they decide to push into the playoffs. Also, I think that Yzerman is a Top 5 GM in this league so I wouldn’t purposefully make a bad trade while knowing that haha
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