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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
Thread: Unconventional Thinking
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>Clearly I am one of the people you referred to. Just think this would be trading away Marchessault or Verheaghe again and not worth it.</div></div>

No I'm not man. I agree, I wouldn't trade him either, these are just ideas/alternatives to keeping him. I love Colton. I hope that's not the case. Colton has the tools, but he has a long way to go. He has the shot power, but he's not great at shooting off the rush unless he is completely free of pressure (2 on 1 or 3 on 1 scenario), his one timer (while lethal) needs lots of work. His stickhandling is significantly worse than that of Marchy or Verhaeghe, as well as several other members currently on the roster. Point, Kuch, Hagel, Stamkos, Eyssimont, Paul. When you get to a certain point, it becomes part of your game. Very rare for someone in their late 20s or 30s to suddenly turn into Brayden Point with their ability to put the puck on a string and be comfortable in the middle of the ice. He has great puck protection, but he's very 1 dimensional with how he moves with the puck. He can cut back/buttonhook and skate linearly with the puck, but he has poor control moving laterally and cutting between defenders to get to the middle of the ice, which is his biggest problem. He's a perimeter, netfront, and below the goal line player. He's only 26 and I really don't see him in any place other than Tampa next year, but this is just a possibility to consider.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
Thread: there is value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Jeannot and Barbashev won't sign those deals. Jeannot is worth at least 1.5, and Barbashev is going to get a massive deal after the playoffs he just had. Brisebois often waits until the start of ufa or later to announce new deals on more valued players, so there's nothing that indicates Colton isn't re-signing. Tampa should also upgrade from Fleury at 3LD, as he's terrible and not an every game regular to be counted on.</div></div>

IDK, Barbashev might if it's a 1 year deal and he doesn't find what he's looking for in the market. Only $1M in cap increase leaves a lot of teams already strapped. With the Cap supposedly jumping next year...he might simply find a good home for 1 year to elevate his play and potential for a larger deal the following summer. Vegas and TBL seem like good places to sit for 1 year.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread: Id root for this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zibby805</b></div><div>foligno has 1 year left and doesn't score season to season and the age of colton helps and the RFA status helps.. could probably get 2x2

this is a true help to both teams. makes tampa third line better, with D depth and minnesota gets a scorer for all their setup guys.. colton with Zuc sounds good</div></div>

Oh I like Colton and actually think he'd be a pretty decent fit in MN. It's a decent thought for sure, but this particular deal is just a wash on Cap when you factor in the retention. There's no significant savings for that be a real factor in the equation.

I guess it kinda depends on what Colton actually comes in at. If it is closer to 2x2, there's like a 1M in change...if it's closer to 3x3, it's a wash. He turns 27 before the year, so you're buying UFA years. The RFA discount isn't gonna be massive.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 22, 2023 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread: Colton trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>Dime a dozen middle 6 Bhahahahahahaha Bhahahahahahaha Bhahahahahahaha Colton over the last 2 seasons 1.14 goals per 60
Playing with 3/4th liners compared to say
Tavares. 1.12
Kubalik .9
Marchand 1.16
Panerin 1.00
HISCHIER 1.07
He may be the most underrated player on CF.</div></div>
Shame Colton's (1.09 5v5 g/60) got nothing on elite players such as Carrier (1.1 g/60), Mayhew (1.13), Malgin (1.18) and Paul frickin Cotter (1.22).
Look at me I can also quote univariate statistical rates without context :'D :'D :'D

Now if we were to compare all encompassing impacts by way of contextual modelling of Ross Colton and say, a middle 6 fwd currently with the Devils struggling to hold down a consistent spot in the starting lineup, what might that look like?
Well:
<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/01/03121419/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-10.52.15-AM-1536x962.png" alt="Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-10.52.15-AM-1536x962.png">
<img class="for_img" src="https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/01/03122301/Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-11.40.00-AM-1536x966.png" alt="Screenshot-2023-04-03-at-11.40.00-AM-1536x966.png">

If you really believe that Colton is something that he clearly isn't, then by all means keep him.
Let Colton lead you to another cup to close out your competitive window.
The Devils will do just fine without him.