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Created by: zibby805
Team: 2023-24 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 15, 2023
Published: Jun. 15, 2023
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Because no one on here agrees on value for Colton via trade, lets say Tampa lets him walk and don't qualify him (which won't happen) they go full UFA then. and for those who think he's resigning on a team friendly deal.... it would have been done already.. hes got arbitration written all of him.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$1,300,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
6$3,500,000
Trades
TBL
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Myers, Philippe
    2. Seabrook, Brent
    3. 2023 7th round pick (ANA)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    2025
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
    Logo of the TBL
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$83,500,000$81,833,333$0$0$1,666,667

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $758,333$758,333
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $3,150,000$3,150,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $800,000$800,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $800,000$800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $762,500$762,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $5,200,000$5,200,000
    RD
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
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    Both BBQ and Reims aren’t signing those deals
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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: SashaLavery
    Both BBQ and Reims aren’t signing those deals


    can you provide opinion on why.. both contracts are posted on the athletic as possible parameters for their next contracts? the average for BBQ projected is 4 years 4.25 (i went longer allowing to lower the cap which is normal for teams) and reimer anything around a million
    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: zibby805
    can you provide opinion on why.. both contracts are posted on the athletic as possible parameters for their next contracts? the average for BBQ projected is 4 years 4.25 (i went longer allowing to lower the cap which is normal for teams) and reimer anything around a million


    Is longer supposed to go lower? Thought it was supposed to go higher if you provided a longer term. Cap Ceiling doesn't go down...it goes up.
    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Toronto has the Core 4, but Tampa has the Magnificent 7.
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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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    100% agreed on RC. I've posted a few trades with RC (and the dumps you have above) to CHI with a pick/prospect going back. That way Killer can be extended and get a pick for the future at the same time. It got shot down pretty hard by TBL fans.
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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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    Jeannot and Barbashev won't sign those deals. Jeannot is worth at least 1.5, and Barbashev is going to get a massive deal after the playoffs he just had. Brisebois often waits until the start of ufa or later to announce new deals on more valued players, so there's nothing that indicates Colton isn't re-signing. Tampa should also upgrade from Fleury at 3LD, as he's terrible and not an every game regular to be counted on.
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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    Jeannot and Barbashev won't sign those deals. Jeannot is worth at least 1.5, and Barbashev is going to get a massive deal after the playoffs he just had. Brisebois often waits until the start of ufa or later to announce new deals on more valued players, so there's nothing that indicates Colton isn't re-signing. Tampa should also upgrade from Fleury at 3LD, as he's terrible and not an every game regular to be counted on.


    IDK, Barbashev might if it's a 1 year deal and he doesn't find what he's looking for in the market. Only $1M in cap increase leaves a lot of teams already strapped. With the Cap supposedly jumping next year...he might simply find a good home for 1 year to elevate his play and potential for a larger deal the following summer. Vegas and TBL seem like good places to sit for 1 year.
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    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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    Seab is LTIR - if insurance pays? AZ i guess fine on taking it for AHL/bottom pair D and 7th.
    Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: zibby805
    can you provide opinion on why.. both contracts are posted on the athletic as possible parameters for their next contracts? the average for BBQ projected is 4 years 4.25 (i went longer allowing to lower the cap which is normal for teams) and reimer anything around a million


    There’s going to be lots of interest for both of those players around the whole league, may not so much Reiner I think he would definitely take a 1.5 million deal with Tampa but BBQ I think gets a bidding war for around 6/7 years at 5 million he’s not worth it but had a great playoffs won the cup and the FA market is severely thin. Tampa does have the advantage of no tax but will still need to pay a bit more to get them
    Jun. 15, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    IDK, Barbashev might if it's a 1 year deal and he doesn't find what he's looking for in the market. Only $1M in cap increase leaves a lot of teams already strapped. With the Cap supposedly jumping next year...he might simply find a good home for 1 year to elevate his play and potential for a larger deal the following summer. Vegas and TBL seem like good places to sit for 1 year.


    Terrible for him and for Tampa. There are teams that will line up to pay him 5x5. There's very little reason to have to "bet on himself" for a year, he's already placed that winning bet and now it's time for the payout. He could also very easily not care as much about going to a contender, as he has two Cups already as well. For Tampa, it's losing at minimum several years of Colton(probabaly more), for one year of Barbashev. Even if somehow Barby took a bad deal for himself, there's absolutely 0 chance that Tampa could re-sign him after the upcoming season. Tampa will be using the projected cap increase to re-up Hagel and Stamkos, so there would be no room at all for Barbashev. Tampa isn't at a point where it's one last run left with this core, so there's no reason to be approaching the offseason that way.
     
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