Am I the only that thinks this - too many wingers on this team

Created by: F50marco

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 26, 2021

Published: Aug. 26, 2021

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The Habs have way too many wingers on this team and at least 1 needs to go before the start of the season, or at the very least by the time Byron comes back? (Possibly Byron included if that's the case)

There are only 3 real options IMO. Anyone else is either too good to trade away or not going to play when the roster is healthy anyway.

My gut says if Drouin comes back just good enough to be tradeable, than its him. If he either comes back crazy good and is untradeable now OR is so bad that we can't even trade him if we want to, than its Lehkonen.

Byron is the only other real option that frankly doesn't make sense.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi		3	$2,750,000
Poehling, Ryan		2	$850,000

Trades

MTL

This would only happen right before Byron comes back from LTIR mid season as I don't think Drouin would be tradeable until he plays a few games and shows he's back to the level he was at before taking a leave of absence. Habs will want to only move him if they know that as well so they can actually recoup some value.

PIT

Option 1 - Most obvious

Jonathan Drouin

MTL

I don't exactly want him gone but when everyone is healthy, he will be the odd man out under current construction. He's a great defensive forward but there simply is too many other wingers I would prefer in the lineup. At least trading Lehky would bring back some value as any team looking for very solid 3rd-4th line winger would be better with Lehky on their team. He's a coaches dream and a must have style player on a Cup contender.

DET

Option 2 - The best value and makes the most sense right now.

Artturi Lehkonen

MTL

I keep seeing AGM's where the Habs need to add a 2nd rounder to move this guy and Im flabbergasted every time. Byron is a player that is worth more to MTL than to any other team. If we have to pay to move him, it has to come at the cost of potentially losing a player to free agency, etc only. Otherwise there is no reason to move this guy. YES he makes too much money but he is NOT a cap dump. He's fast, physical for a small guy, gives it 100% every game, ocker room favorite, assistant captain, loves playing in MTL and actively WANTS to play here. Etc etc etc

He is 10th-13th forward on this team but given the perception that we'd have to pay to get rid of him, moving him would be silly. We'd be losing an asset and a good player for a small cap saving. not worth it in the slightest IMHO.

DET

Option 3 - The guy that other teams think we'll have to pay to get rid of but we shouldn't because he's still good.

Paul Byron

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$63,637,977	$597,561	$1,475,000	$17,862,023

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $2,750,000$2,750,000 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan $850,000$850,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,150,000$1,150,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Paquette, Cédric $950,000$950,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1		Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Wideman, Chris $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Top Comments

Aug. 26, 2021 at 3:22 p.m.

Shanesaw9

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I believe habs will be going with the young C core you lined up... therefore it only makes sense to make sure they all have good wingers to play with.

I wouldn't feel bad if Byron or Perreault were scratches, they will at least be good depth for injuries and keep competition with the others in the lineup, I don't see any issue at the moment.

Not opposed to a trade but if the expansion draft and waivers from last year are any indication Drouin and Byron both carry negative value in the league. I think they are useful players so I wouldn't dump them unless it was necessary. Lehkonen carries little value and I doubt he remains with MTL past this season.

Edit:
I think Lehky will play an important defensive role this year with Danault gone, his PK experience will be helpful while Poehling learns.

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Aug. 26, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Detroit's roster is set. The only way we'd trade at this point, would be for a game changer, or a cap dump that came with a HEFTY return (1st round pick or more)

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Aug. 26, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.

F50marco

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Quoting: Shanesaw9

I believe habs will be going with the young C core you lined up... therefore it only makes sense to make sure they all have good wingers to play with.

I wouldn't feel bad if Byron or Perreault were scratches, they will at least be good depth for injuries and keep competition with the others in the lineup, I don't see any issue at the moment.

Not opposed to a trade but if the expansion draft and waivers from last year are any indication Drouin and Byron both carry negative value in the league. I think they are useful players so I wouldn't dump them unless it was necessary. Lehkonen carries little value and I doubt he remains with MTL past this season.

Edit:
I think Lehky will play an important role this year with Danault gone, his PK experience will be helpful while Poehling learns.

I feel like sitting Byron sends a bad message and based on what we've seen in the past, Byron is not going to sit. He played ahead of Lehkonen this year during the regular season as well as playoffs. He's the assistant captain. Under the current setup, sitting him is not a good look. The only benefit is that Byron is on LTIR so we have time with him. When he comes back, you can;t sit him for the remainder of the season. Thats not an option. Perreault and Paquette didn't sign to be 13th forwards. Frankly they'll be hungry to make the lineup so competition will be fierce.

Let me clarify I want all these guys to play but there are only so many spots available. When everyone is healthy, 1 of the benched forwards will be too good to bench and thus a wasted asset. Much better suited to move on from one of them so that you can replace that player with a better suited scratched player and recoup the assets from the player too good to be scratching. IMO

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Aug. 26, 2021 at 3:33 p.m.

F50marco

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit's roster is set. The only way we'd trade at this point, would be for a game changer, or a cap dump that came with a HEFTY return (1st round pick or more)

Just clicked random teams, this wasn't targeted at Detroit in the slightest.

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Aug. 26, 2021 at 3:33 p.m.

Chabotrrorr

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Get rid of Drouin.

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