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Jan. 2, 2018 at 3:56 p.m.
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Or... idk. I guess I'll take Weise if you need cap space.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:03 p.m.
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I love Chabot so wouldn't suggest moving him typically. But I think a best, realistic-case scenario for him would be if he developed into a Roman Josi. Zach Smith is pushing 30 and has 8 points this season and has never had a 40pt season. Bowers is a nice prospect and the 2nd and 3rd are obviously good assets. I'd love to pawn off Phaneuf's salary in the deal (or any salary in addition to Smith's), but overall I think the price tag is fair on Josi given he's got another 2 years after this at $4m.


So how about we try to get him without trading Chabot first?
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Icegirl
Or we could just focus on Svetlakov+ for Chlapik, if cap space is a big deal for you. I'd definitely make the + worth your while.


but then it still doesn't really get us anything we need.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:04 p.m.
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Juice is it okay if i try to get a 2nd AGM? Cause it's always good to have 2.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:05 p.m.
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So how about we try to get him without trading Chabot first?


Can't hurt to ask. Do you have Chabot, White and Brown as the top 3 prospects? If so, do you have an order ranking? I can't imagine we would be able to land Josi without losing one of them so just curious who holds more value.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:06 p.m.
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Juice is it okay if i try to get a 2nd AGM? Cause it's always good to have 2.


I don't have any problems with that
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:08 p.m.
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Can't hurt to ask. Do you have Chabot, White and Brown as the top 3 prospects? If so, do you have an order ranking? I can't imagine we would be able to land Josi without losing one of them so just curious who holds more value.


IMO probably Chabot, then Brown, then White.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:09 p.m.
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IMO probably Chabot, then Brown, then White.


Ok. Same
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:13 p.m.
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Or... idk. I guess I'll take Weise if you need cap space.


This could make sense. Out of curiousity...what would it take on our end for Zucker?
Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:17 p.m.
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I think this is me and Juice's discussion page. IMO we should bring discussions with other GMs to the Ottawa page.
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Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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The Preds want White and a 1st for Josi if they can't get Chabot. I think we should keep our 1st this year in case it becomes Dahlin.
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Jan. 2, 2018 at 4:49 p.m.
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The Preds want White and a 1st for Josi if they can't get Chabot. I think we should keep our 1st this year in case it becomes Dahlin.

I agree. I still really like the original offer that includes chabot.

I’m not a fan of the 3-way deal that involves Mcdonagh
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:21 p.m.
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I agree. I still really like the original offer that includes chabot.

I’m not a fan of the 3-way deal that involves Mcdonagh


Yeah, i don't think we're moving both Brown and Chabot.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:25 p.m.
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Do you see Krug as a top pairing d-man as of right now?
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:28 p.m.
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Borderline. He’s a 2/3 maybe. I don’t like the last asking price i saw tho.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:33 p.m.
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Actually if it’s just for brown that’s not too bad.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Juice
This could make sense. Out of curiousity...what would it take on our end for Zucker?


Don't even try to get Zucker unless you're willing to blow me away.

Also, make sure you tell your boss that I'd take Weise in a Chlapik/Svetlakov swap.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:56 p.m.
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You asked if I'd be interested in helping. I would potentially consider joining if RAIF agrees to get Twitter to make communication easier
Jan. 2, 2018 at 5:58 p.m.
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Check the page to see my Josi offer and potentially make a counter
Jan. 2, 2018 at 6:45 p.m.
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i'm not sure if we're moving out both.



I'm not sure about Juice but IMO Hammond is not a guy we'd move to get cap space. He has potential.



Foligno is also sending cap to us.


RAIF, Hammond has no potential. He's completely useless. He's buried in the AHL, under contract to COL, and got loaned back to OTT. When a player under an NHL contract gets loaned to a different minor league team, that should tell you right away that they have no future in this league. Hammond is completely dead cap space. I really don't want to take Weise, so taking Foligno and sending back Pyatt and Hammond will end up minimizing the cap you take on.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 6:58 p.m.
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Can this go back to the Ottawa Communications Page please... don't need anyone who isn't with Ottawa to be posting here
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Jan. 2, 2018 at 8:10 p.m.
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Ok. Some basic frameworks here that might make sense.

Trade #1 With Nashville:
Chabot
Phaneuf (pending league approval)
Bowers
Batherson
2019 2nd
2018 3rd
+ ?

for

Roman Josi

Trade #2 with Boston

Logan Brown + ?

for

Torey Krug

Trade #3 with Minny
Andrew Hammond
Taylor Pyatt
Filip Chlapik

for

Marcus Foligno
Andrei Svetlavok
+ ? (try for a 2018 3rd which Minnesota has 3 of)

Cap implications: We'd have an even $3m of cap space remaining as this brings in $12,125,000 and moves out $9,450,000

Potential Lineup:
Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Dzingel - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Burrows
Foligno - Thompson - Mitchell

Josi - Karlsson
Krug - Ceci
Oduya - Wideman

Anderson
Condon

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Notes:
We lose 2 of top 3 prospects in Chabot and Brown and a 2nd round pick in 2019 (assuming we can acquire a 3rd in the minny deal then the 3rds cancel out)
We gain legit #1 and #2 LD and shed a huge contract in Phaneuf while upgrading and getting younger at left wing for the bottom six.
Jan. 2, 2018 at 9:56 p.m.
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Actually if it’s just for brown that’s not too bad.


if we have to add i don't think we should do it.

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You asked if I'd be interested in helping. I would potentially consider joining if RAIF agrees to get Twitter to make communication easier


i have email for this game but only for things that need to be said off-site

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RAIF, Hammond has no potential. He's completely useless. He's buried in the AHL, under contract to COL, and got loaned back to OTT. When a player under an NHL contract gets loaned to a different minor league team, that should tell you right away that they have no future in this league. Hammond is completely dead cap space. I really don't want to take Weise, so taking Foligno and sending back Pyatt and Hammond will end up minimizing the cap you take on.

This is the Ottawa GM discussion page

Quoting: Juice
Ok. Some basic frameworks here that might make sense.

Trade #1 With Nashville:
Chabot
Phaneuf (pending league approval)
Bowers
Batherson
2019 2nd
2018 3rd
+ ?

for

Roman Josi

Trade #2 with Boston

Logan Brown + ?

for

Torey Krug

Trade #3 with Minny
Andrew Hammond
Taylor Pyatt
Filip Chlapik

for

Marcus Foligno
Andrei Svetlavok
+ ? (try for a 2018 3rd which Minnesota has 3 of)

Cap implications: We'd have an even $3m of cap space remaining as this brings in $12,125,000 and moves out $9,450,000

Potential Lineup:
Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Dzingel - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Burrows
Foligno - Thompson - Mitchell

Josi - Karlsson
Krug - Ceci
Oduya - Wideman

Anderson
Condon

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Notes:
We lose 2 of top 3 prospects in Chabot and Brown and a 2nd round pick in 2019 (assuming we can acquire a 3rd in the minny deal then the 3rds cancel out)
We gain legit #1 and #2 LD and shed a huge contract in Phaneuf while upgrading and getting younger at left wing for the bottom six.


Trade 1 - I don't really think we should trade Phaneuf.
Trade 2 - That's too much for Krug and i don't even think he's a top pairing guy yet
Trade 3 - We could just try to get Foligno in another deal
Jan. 2, 2018 at 9:59 p.m.
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So about our list what are your thoughts on moving Ryan, Anderson, Chabot, and Turris?
Jan. 2, 2018 at 10:05 p.m.
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The + on Krug is too high unfortunately.

Phaneuf has negative value with the term and cap hit. Moving him without eating any salary would be seen as a massive win.
 
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