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What i think arizona should do

Created by: SamMcI0036
Team: 2018-19 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2018
Published: May 3, 2018
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Description
I am not the best at making trades so if there are trades that you think are bad tell me what I need to change
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Perlini, Brendan
  2. 2020 4th round pick (ARI)
2.
ARI
  1. Okposo, Kyle ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. 2019 1st round pick (ARI)
3.
ARI
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (CAR)
4.
CBJ
  1. Domi, Max
  2. 2020 1st round pick (ARI)
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2018 1st round pick
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$68,359,444$0$2,725,000$6,640,556
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
$839,167$839,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 1
$821,666$821,666 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$675,000$675,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
UFA - 3
$5,475,000$5,475,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 3
$3,937,500$3,937,500
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,850,000$1,850,000
G
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
$745,000$745,000 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
LD
UFA - 2

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May 3, 2018 at 5:51 p.m.
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I see a CF GM from another team actually sees the same value in Okposo that I do.
I assure you Botterill will be sending Okposo the Arizona if Kyle waives his no trade contract. I think because Moulson was on the Sabre roster was one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo, but since he is gone now, so he may very well waive it. IMO, Sabres would have to retain some salary ($1,500,000) is a good amount, and either a pick (maybe a 3rd) or a prospect (Guhle may be too much) for this to be a completely fair trade.
Five stars for this trade alone.

All of the other trades look even except the one with CBJ. I think it would take more to pry Panarin out of Ohio.
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May 3, 2018 at 6:00 p.m.
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If you want Panarin you’ll need to add. Like a lot.... like Keller and Domi and your 2018 first.
May 3, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Ajp_18
If you want Panarin you’ll need to add. Like a lot.... like Keller and Domi and your 2018 first.


Keller AND Domi is way too much for Panarin. Let alone a top 10 pick.
May 3, 2018 at 6:06 p.m.
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Keller AND Domi is way too much for Panarin. Let alone a top 10 pick.


Lol. It’s not.... if you want to pry out the guy who has the most points in a single season in team history..... okay. Maybe the top 10 pick is too much. But Domi and Keller for an established first line nhl player. Domi has been okay... and Keller was good for a month then poof he was gone.
May 3, 2018 at 6:16 p.m.
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Okposo deal is off because he's overpaid for a 45pt player that's really good for powerplays but slightly drags down his team when 5-on-5 (See: 5-on-5 CorsiForRel% -1.7 and FenwickRel% -3.5).
I think he can be acquired for a high 2nd round pick without salary retention. If ARI wants BUF to retain salary, he could alternatively be acquired for a low 1st round pick.

Panarin is a top-10 NHL star in his prime. Thankfully for you, he only has 1 year left till UFA. Murphy is a C+/B- prospect with limited foreseeable NHL future (unless he surprises us). The 1st rounder is a good start (though being in 2020 is unrealistically far). I think the conversation starts with any comparable NHL elite player, like OEL or Keller, and continues with Arizona's #5 selection this year. CBJ must not be in any hurry whatsoever to trade Panarin away, so you're not in a position of power. You have to pay more.

Hope you had fun!
May 3, 2018 at 6:17 p.m.
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Riley Nash gets 3 mil+.
Domi gets 4 ish give or take.
Why on gods green earth would Carolina give up a 3rd/5th for a 4th line player and a terrible contract?
Okposo don't get a first, his contract can be described as "albatross": a source of worry or distress.
unless they retain like 2 million, then maybe someone takes a chance. 5 years left on a contract with a player over 30 with declining production. yikes.
Chicago trade maybe can be tweaked but i'm thinking to save face, Saad is going to be given every chance to succeed next year because of what they paid for him. so no.
Columbus trade is straight up not enough value.
May 3, 2018 at 7:14 p.m.
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We have no reason to trade Panarin away unless we're getting a replacement scoring superstar who will be able to play as as a scoring superstar next year. Your package does not contain such an asset; therefore it is insufficient.
May 3, 2018 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: GMTD
I see a CF GM from another team actually sees the same value in Okposo that I do.
I assure you Botterill will be sending Okposo the Arizona if Kyle waives his no trade contract. I think because Moulson was on the Sabre roster was one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo, but since he is gone now, so he may very well waive it. IMO, Sabres would have to retain some salary ($1,500,000) is a good amount, and either a pick (maybe a 3rd) or a prospect (Guhle may be too much) for this to be a completely fair trade.
Five stars for this trade alone.

All of the other trades look even except the one with CBJ. I think it would take more to pry Panarin out of Ohio.


Quoting: Ajp_18
If you want Panarin you’ll need to add. Like a lot.... like Keller and Domi and your 2018 first.


Quoting: LuckyPercent
Keller AND Domi is way too much for Panarin. Let alone a top 10 pick.


Quoting: Ajp_18
Lol. It’s not.... if you want to pry out the guy who has the most points in a single season in team history..... okay. Maybe the top 10 pick is too much. But Domi and Keller for an established first line nhl player. Domi has been okay... and Keller was good for a month then poof he was gone.


Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
Okposo deal is off because he's overpaid for a 45pt player that's really good for powerplays but slightly drags down his team when 5-on-5 (See: 5-on-5 CorsiForRel% -1.7 and FenwickRel% -3.5).
I think he can be acquired for a high 2nd round pick without salary retention. If ARI wants BUF to retain salary, he could alternatively be acquired for a low 1st round pick.

Panarin is a top-10 NHL star in his prime. Thankfully for you, he only has 1 year left till UFA. Murphy is a C+/B- prospect with limited foreseeable NHL future (unless he surprises us). The 1st rounder is a good start (though being in 2020 is unrealistically far). I think the conversation starts with any comparable NHL elite player, like OEL or Keller, and continues with Arizona's #5 selection this year. CBJ must not be in any hurry whatsoever to trade Panarin away, so you're not in a position of power. You have to pay more.

Hope you had fun!


Quoting: SirCharles
Riley Nash gets 3 mil+.
Domi gets 4 ish give or take.
Why on gods green earth would Carolina give up a 3rd/5th for a 4th line player and a terrible contract?
Okposo don't get a first, his contract can be described as "albatross": a source of worry or distress.
unless they retain like 2 million, then maybe someone takes a chance. 5 years left on a contract with a player over 30 with declining production. yikes.
Chicago trade maybe can be tweaked but i'm thinking to save face, Saad is going to be given every chance to succeed next year because of what they paid for him. so no.
Columbus trade is straight up not enough value.


Quoting: Viqsi
We have no reason to trade Panarin away unless we're getting a replacement scoring superstar who will be able to play as as a scoring superstar next year. Your package does not contain such an asset; therefore it is insufficient.


Ok, like I said in the description I am not the best at making trades but, I think I made it better now
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May 3, 2018 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: SamMcI0036
Ok, like I said in the description I am not the best at making trades but, I think I made it better now


you did better than most that I have seen on this site.
May 3, 2018 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: SamMcI0036
Ok, like I said in the description I am not the best at making trades but, I think I made it better now


Take out the firsts and put Keller on the Columbus trade.... that would be a deal.
May 3, 2018 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
Okposo deal is off because he's overpaid for a 45pt player that's really good for powerplays but slightly drags down his team when 5-on-5 (See: 5-on-5 CorsiForRel% -1.7 and FenwickRel% -3.5).
I think he can be acquired for a high 2nd round pick without salary retention. If ARI wants BUF to retain salary, he could alternatively be acquired for a low 1st round pick.


Hope you had fun!


True, that he's not perfect defensively, but offensively he's been mentoring young guys the last two years. Before that he had three straight seasons with 50+ points. The Islanders replaced him with Cup ring model Andrew Ladd and haven't been back to the playoffs.

Could just be a coincidence. But I think You and GMTD are arguing for about the same total trade value:

Quoting: GMTD
I see a CF GM from another team actually sees the same value in Okposo that I do.
I assure you Botterill will be sending Okposo the Arizona if Kyle waives his no trade contract. I think because Moulson was on the Sabre roster was one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo, but since he is gone now, so he may very well waive it. IMO, Sabres would have to retain some salary ($1,500,000) is a good amount, and either a pick (maybe a 3rd) or a prospect (Guhle may be too much) for this to be a completely fair trade.
Five stars for this trade alone.

All of the other trades look even except the one with CBJ. I think it would take more to pry Panarin out of Ohio.


What's clever about the orignal post, but also risky, is that it's trading future first picks for guys who can help the team win now, sign OEL long term, and win more as the existing plethora of youth and talent develops together.

Of course, the Leafs totally failed at that, one time, so be pretty sure about the guys you're getting.
May 4, 2018 at 6:52 a.m.
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Lol. It’s not.... if you want to pry out the guy who has the most points in a single season in team history..... okay. Maybe the top 10 pick is too much. But Domi and Keller for an established first line nhl player. Domi has been okay... and Keller was good for a month then poof he was gone.


Keller for an impending UFA makes absolute zero sense for Arizona.
May 4, 2018 at 7:42 p.m.
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Quoting: SamMcI0036
Ok, like I said in the description I am not the best at making trades but, I think I made it better now


Not for the Jackets. There still isn't a scoring superstar coming back.
 
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