That Kane trade is awful...why would CHI give up a 1st rounder also if they are rebuilding? lol

To get Dahlin..

Buffalo isn't trading the 1st overall pick.

yeah its awful... for buffalo. no way buffalo trades for a 29 y/o winger when the have the perfect piece to fix their team waiting to be drafted 1st overall. what use could buffalo possibly have for a veteran winger making $10.5M when they arent even a playoff team?

Kane makes buffalo an immediate playoff team and his play style will age very well as buffalo becomes a contender. 8OA still allowed them to take an elite defender too. I think BUF takes a hard look at this proposal

Lol no they do not consider it at all. Nobody trades away a generational talent on an ELC for an aging star who makes a crap ton of money and a good prospect.

I wouldn’t want MTL to make that trade. Even at $8 million Toews isn’t worth it. ROR would be cheaper to trade for and basically gives you a younger version of Toews.

Other than the cap hit I dont think ROR comes much cheaper than Toews. Likely still commands a good young player and a first

Yeah, it takes like half a second. Dahlin is the perfect prospect for a team beyond desperate for d. Thats not even factoring in elc vs 10.5. Or that gambling on offense on players over 30 is betting against the house. Honestly id love kane here, id risk the diminishing returns likely on a winger making huge money soon to be over 30, but there is absolutely no way you get dahlin for him.

Not 3rd overall. You can’t trade an 18 year old controllable franchise player for a diminishing 30+ $10.5 million player, who frankly isn’t an elite player anymore. Plus your also taking a 24 year old proven 50+ point player who can still improve.

Yeah its honestly a pipe dream. But figured if BUF were to trade 1OA, Kane checks a lot of boxes for sabres going the other way

Oh i dont know. If bergevin gave us 3oa for ror, they could keep galchenyuk.

Toews is definitely still elite, albeit not worth 10.5 and brings everything Montreal needs. With a first going back and money retained on Toews I dont think its an overpayment

Kane is fantastic. If 1oa this year was an ekblad- a top pair at worst, all star d, maybe. The stuff we are hearing about dahlin is just nuts. Ive been following the sabres for 38 years, since i got my first opeechee sticker book. The sabres best d in that time (my list) is ramsey, housley (who was just a 4th forward here), mckee, zhitnik, numminen, and ill say patrick. Ask 100 people, youll get 50 different names. Point is, anybody outside of buffalo has no idea who these guys are. When they talk about dahlin, they say potvin, hedman, lidstrom, and karlsson. Theres just no way the sabres pass on drafting him.

How is Toews elite? He has never been a point a game player (that’s elite) and it’s jot just 3OA, it’s Galchenyuk, who is easily worth more then a late round first.

IMO Toews isn’t worth 3OA, neither is ROR. Let alone the Galchenyuk for a late first one top of it

If you think Toews isnt elite because he doesn't produce 80 points a year then you dont understand why Toews is a good hockey player. Being a good center is about winning match ups, which Toews still overwhelmingly does against "elite" centers, aside from being a career 58% at the dot and putting up 60+ points a season. Definitely the starting piece in a Toews to habs trade would be 3OA. Toews WAS a 3OA, and not all picks that high pan out to be as good as Toews...talk to me when Zadina captains the habs to a cup or 3

I honestly don’t care how many cups he has when I know he can’t lead MTL to a cup. Toews is 30 and hasn’t put up over 60 points in the past 3 years, the same years Chicago has been going down hill. I known he is good, at one point one of he top 5 in the league but that time is gone.

You don’t trade a 18 year old third overall and a 24 year old third overall for him. Especially at a cap hit that turns your team into a cap he’ll hole with the other 30 year old contacts you already have.

Case and point Chucky was 3OA and is great but will never be the player Toews is/was, especially in his own end. If MTL wants to win now then a 30yo conn smythe 1C>18yo top 6 winger. The habs have elite offensive talent, they dont have an elite 2 way center.

Galchenyuk isn’t the defensive player but I think he can be better offensively and Zadina could be a consistent 30 goal scorer. MTLs window to win isn’t this close, bringing Toews in won’t make it any closer.

If we trade for Toews, it's going to be Glachenyuk for Toews, straight up. Bergy hangs up and blocks your number forever if you touch our 3OVA.

If you look at last year's stats, Toews litterally scored one more goal then Glachenyuk. Chucky is 6 years younger, 6 and half mill cheaper, and is still growing. Unless we make some insane trades, Montreal is not making the playoffs this year. We're working on a rebuild, and Glachenyuk is just barely starting to find some stability under Julien's game.