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Poaching Kucherov

Created by: Elevatorboy
Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 8, 2018
Published: Jul. 8, 2018
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Free Agent Signings
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2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
3$4,500,000
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Dahlin, Rasmus
3$925,000
Trades
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BUF
  1. 2019 4th round pick (ARI)
2.
BUF
  1. 2019 5th round pick (NJD)
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BUF
  1. 2020 4th round pick (NYR)
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TBL
  1. Bailey, Justin
  2. McCabe, Jake
  3. 2019 1st round pick (SJS)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
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2019
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2020
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23$79,500,000$70,893,334$0$1,245,000$8,606,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
$4,766,667$4,766,667
RW
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 2
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW
UFA - 2
$850,000$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
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UFA - 2
$5,400,000$5,400,000
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UFA - 4
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000$925,000
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 8, 2018 at 5:52 p.m.
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Not with that you won’t
Jul. 8, 2018 at 5:53 p.m.
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The only way you guys would get Kucherov is Eichel and Dahlin
Jul. 8, 2018 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
The only way you guys would get Kucherov is Eichel and Dahlin


Eichel OR Dahlin

I fixed your typo for you, because they way you had it is just stupid (like the original trade)
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Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Shifttee
Eichel OR Dahlin

I fixed your typo for you, because they way you had it is just stupid (like the original trade)


Both are over pay for kucherov
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Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:04 p.m.
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If only it were that easy smile
Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:12 p.m.
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is this the buffalo version of Neilson, Brown and a 2nd?
Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
Both are over pay for kucherov


Need to overpay for Kucherov
Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Need to overpay for Kucherov
Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Shifttee
Eichel OR Dahlin

I fixed your typo for you, because they way you had it is just stupid (like the original trade)


Kucherov is 25 and already one of the best players in the league. Eichel is nowhere close to that and Dahlin has not played a single NHL game. If you want to get a player like Kucherov, you need to pay a lot. No go away with your dumb responses
Jul. 8, 2018 at 6:47 p.m.
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yeah maybe if Bergevin becomes our GM
Jul. 8, 2018 at 7:54 p.m.
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That is a horrid deal. Kuch Has more value than eichal or dahlin alone atm because of his history of production and eichel has already built a injury history while dahlin hasnt played a single game in the nhl. Obviously these trades wouldnt help either team because tb is stanley cup contending while buffalo is bottom of the barrel, for kuch to be moved to buffalo one of those 2 pieces will need to be included as a minimum but values shouldn't be to far off otherwise in tb favor. NYR fan
Jul. 8, 2018 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Kucherov is 25 and already one of the best players in the league. Eichel is nowhere close to that and Dahlin has not played a single NHL game. If you want to get a player like Kucherov, you need to pay a lot. No go away with your dumb responses


If Tampa offered Buffalo Kucherov for Eichel straight up, Buffalo would say no. What does that tell you?
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Jul. 8, 2018 at 8:08 p.m.
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The trade is an embarassment to sabres fans.

We aren't trading Eichel or Dahlin, but certainly Reinhart, Middelstadt, Ristolainen, our 2019 1st, Guhle, would all have to be on the table for kucherov, if he is to resign.

My guess is we'd be looking at Reinhart, Guhle and a 1st, and that might not get it done
Jul. 9, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
If Tampa offered Buffalo Kucherov for Eichel straight up, Buffalo would say no. What does that tell you?


It tells me Buffalo doesn't know what it's doing.
Jul. 9, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
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It tells me Buffalo doesn't know what it's doing.


Or it’s you.
Jul. 9, 2018 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Or it’s you.


To be fair, it would be a close decision. "Better the devil you know" probably means it doesn't happen, along with contract status. But there's no question in my mind that Kucherov is the better player of the two. Will Eichel be as good as Kucherov when he's 24? That's not a bet I'd be willing to make. Here's their p/60 during their NHL careers:

Eichel
19: 2.17
20: 2.81
21: 2.85 ** 41st in the league

Kucherov
20: 1.58
21: 3.18 ** 9th in the league
22: 2.82
23: 3.54
24: 3.78

There's a huge difference between 2.8 and 3.8. Can Jack get there? Maybe... Nikita is there now.
 
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