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Well take Laine

Created by: RC333
Team: 2018-19 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2019
Published: Feb. 3, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Winnipeg isn't giving Laine his chance in Winnipeg and it's showing in his stats.

In the off-season canucks go after Edler (2-3×5-5.5mil) and one of Stone(7×8.5)/Karlsson(7×11mil) and trade Sutter to give Gaudette the 3rd C role. Freeing further cap space

Resign Laine to 8×8 contract
Trades
VAN
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. Laine, Patrik
Additional Details:
Kulikov is the cap dump. Edler is way better

Baertschi is a 50 point winger imagine with better linemates.

Gagner and Leivo add depth to the bottom 6
WPG
  1. Baertschi, Sven
  2. Edler, Alexander ($2,500,000 retained)
  3. Gagner, Sam
  4. Goldobin, Nikolay
  5. Leivo, Josh
  6. 2019 1st round pick (VAN)
  7. 2020 2nd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Adds cap flexibility for winnipeg to resign Connor and other rfa as well as signing some big UFA
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$60,805,347$852,847$11,082,500$18,694,653

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,375,000$4,375,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 2
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,325,000$2,325,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:17 p.m.
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WPG's not trading Laine if 1st round pick is the most valuable asset VAN's giving up.

It needs to be either Horvat or Boeser that starts the discussion.

Problem with these quantity for quality trades are that those pieces you're giving are easily replaceable by other players, but the other team have no pieces to replace the traded star player...
Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
WPG's not trading Laine if 1st round pick is the most valuable asset VAN's giving up.

It needs to be either Horvat or Boeser that starts the discussion.

Problem with these quantity for quality trades are that those pieces you're giving are easily replaceable by other players, but the other team have no pieces to replace the traded star player...


I don't know man, like what ur saying makes sense to me but Laine clearly isn't being used properly. In my opinion he's also a one dimensional player that's why I'd be hesitant to give up Boeser. Boeser was leading the canucks as a rookie when the canucks were horrible. Plus he's got a very good defensive game. Horvat on the other hand is important to the team bcuz he's out second line center and future captain. Has got a good offensive and defensive game.

My mindset was trading a first which could be a lottery pick, Edler who is having a career year and is no doubt better than Kulikov and will improve your D core drastically as well as your penalty kill. Baertschi is a top 6 forward, he was on pace for a career year before his concussion and he's still on a 50 point pace. Goldobin could also help out with scoring. Winnipeg was looking for more scoring and I think this helps them, not to mention adding gagner and Leivo which would help the bottom 6. Lets not forget that gagner was a 50 point player in Columbus and a 40 point player on a weak canucks team. I think he's low risk high reward.

As a collective whole I think it makes u better. Especially if u go out in FA and make some moves
Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:41 p.m.
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I don't know man, like what ur saying makes sense to me but Laine clearly isn't being used properly. In my opinion he's also a one dimensional player that's why I'd be hesitant to give up Boeser. Boeser was leading the canucks as a rookie when the canucks were horrible. Plus he's got a very good defensive game. Horvat on the other hand is important to the team bcuz he's out second line center and future captain. Has got a good offensive and defensive game.

My mindset was trading a first which could be a lottery pick, Edler who is having a career year and is no doubt better than Kulikov and will improve your D core drastically as well as your penalty kill. Baertschi is a top 6 forward, he was on pace for a career year before his concussion and he's still on a 50 point pace. Goldobin could also help out with scoring. Winnipeg was looking for more scoring and I think this helps them, not to mention adding gagner and Leivo which would help the bottom 6. Lets not forget that gagner was a 50 point player in Columbus and a 40 point player on a weak canucks team. I think he's low risk high reward.

As a collective whole I think it makes u better. Especially if u go out in FA and make some moves


Comparing players from the VAN to WPG is pretty pointless, because the teams are in different situations. VAN's almost out of the playoff position, whilst WPG is a division leader.

In WPG Edler would probably be a decent 2nd pair rental d-man. Baertschi would end up to the 3rd line with Lowry and Perreault, thus not scoring points anymore with the same efficiency. The same goes for Goldobin.
Gagner ended up as an AHL player in your team, it will definitely be the same thing in Jets roster. Also Leivo would be a healthy scratch.

None of those forwards would go higher than the 3rd line. And Edler would probably be for the rest of a year a 2nd pair D. There simply isn't enough value to give away a 40 goal winger - despite he's going through a rough patch at the moment.
Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Comparing players from the VAN to WPG is pretty pointless, because the teams are in different situations. VAN's almost out of the playoff position, whilst WPG is a division leader.

In WPG Edler would probably be a decent 2nd pair rental d-man. Baertschi would end up to the 3rd line with Lowry and Perreault, thus not scoring points anymore with the same efficiency. The same goes for Goldobin.
Gagner ended up as an AHL player in your team, it will definitely be the same thing in Jets roster. Also Leivo would be a healthy scratch.

None of those forwards would go higher than the 3rd line. And Edler would probably be for the rest of a year a 2nd pair D. There simply isn't enough value to give away a 40 goal winger - despite he's going through a rough patch at the moment.


That's a good point
Feb. 3, 2019 at 3:57 p.m.
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So many things wrong with this and I'll give you two prime examples:

1: the trade crosby train when he had all his injuries. Keep Crosby and they win back to back
2: Trade Ovi when he was on pace for career lows. Keep Ovi, he's still a god damn stud in his 30's and led the team to their first cup.

WPG trading Laine cause he's having a bad stretch is the EXACT SAME as Canucks trading Boeser when he had a slow start. But you heard NOTHING about fans wanting Boeser gone. Also, what frustrates me the most about cap friendly is so many people treat it as the EA Sports NHL games, as if it's all statistical value based

ie:

Laine has a value of 80/100
Kulikov 10/100
Total 90/100

Bae 20/100
Edler 20/100
Leivo 10/100
Goldobin 15/100
Gagner 5/100
1st rd pick 40/100
Total 110/100

Therefore WPG definitely does this trade cause they're getting more value back, right?

How about this.. How about Canucks trade Boeser and Gudbranson to WPG for roslevic, petan, lowry, kulikov, perrault, and their 1st and next years 2nd. Not a hope in hell Canucks do that. So why would WPG?
Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:03 p.m.
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Laine is getting all the chances the jets can give him, he is just in a slump. He is not getting traded, especially for that package. Getting tired of writing this
Feb. 3, 2019 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: ItsBlowTime
So many things wrong with this and I'll give you two prime examples:

1: the trade crosby train when he had all his injuries. Keep Crosby and they win back to back
2: Trade Ovi when he was on pace for career lows. Keep Ovi, he's still a god damn stud in his 30's and led the team to their first cup.

WPG trading Laine cause he's having a bad stretch is the EXACT SAME as Canucks trading Boeser when he had a slow start. But you heard NOTHING about fans wanting Boeser gone. Also, what frustrates me the most about cap friendly is so many people treat it as the EA Sports NHL games, as if it's all statistical value based

ie:

Laine has a value of 80/100
Kulikov 10/100
Total 90/100

Bae 20/100
Edler 20/100
Leivo 10/100
Goldobin 15/100
Gagner 5/100
1st rd pick 40/100
Total 110/100

Therefore WPG definitely does this trade cause they're getting more value back, right?

How about this.. How about Canucks trade Boeser and Gudbranson to WPG for roslevic, petan, lowry, kulikov, perrault, and their 1st and next years 2nd. Not a hope in hell Canucks do that. So why would WPG?


Roslovic is a non starter he looked a lot like scheifele last night and if he keeps developing that way, he’s going to be a another nice problem to solve on contract talks
Feb. 4, 2019 at 11:37 a.m.
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So many things wrong with this and I'll give you two prime examples:

1: the trade crosby train when he had all his injuries. Keep Crosby and they win back to back
2: Trade Ovi when he was on pace for career lows. Keep Ovi, he's still a god damn stud in his 30's and led the team to their first cup.

WPG trading Laine cause he's having a bad stretch is the EXACT SAME as Canucks trading Boeser when he had a slow start. But you heard NOTHING about fans wanting Boeser gone. Also, what frustrates me the most about cap friendly is so many people treat it as the EA Sports NHL games, as if it's all statistical value based

ie:

Laine has a value of 80/100
Kulikov 10/100
Total 90/100

Bae 20/100
Edler 20/100
Leivo 10/100
Goldobin 15/100
Gagner 5/100
1st rd pick 40/100
Total 110/100

Therefore WPG definitely does this trade cause they're getting more value back, right?

How about this.. How about Canucks trade Boeser and Gudbranson to WPG for roslevic, petan, lowry, kulikov, perrault, and their 1st and next years 2nd. Not a hope in hell Canucks do that. So why would WPG?


Don`t dance around it ... just put the offer of Boeser & Gudbranson for Laine & Kulikov out there then.... oh and if you think Kulikov is equal to Edler you have no idea what ur talking about ... he`s more like an older Trouba - Edler`s avg is 35 points and has had 50 in his best years
Feb. 4, 2019 at 6:25 p.m.
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Don`t dance around it ... just put the offer of Boeser & Gudbranson for Laine & Kulikov out there then.... oh and if you think Kulikov is equal to Edler you have no idea what ur talking about ... he`s more like an older Trouba - Edler`s avg is 35 points and has had 50 in his best years


I never said Kulikov was equal to Edler.. Edler is better. Also Boeser and Guddy for Laine and Kilikov is a trash deal for the Jets. Laine is a better sniper than Boeser hands down
Feb. 5, 2019 at 5:13 p.m.
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I don't know man, like what ur saying makes sense to me but Laine clearly isn't being used properly. In my opinion he's also a one dimensional player that's why I'd be hesitant to give up Boeser. Boeser was leading the canucks as a rookie when the canucks were horrible. Plus he's got a very good defensive game. Horvat on the other hand is important to the team bcuz he's out second line center and future captain. Has got a good offensive and defensive game.

My mindset was trading a first which could be a lottery pick, Edler who is having a career year and is no doubt better than Kulikov and will improve your D core drastically as well as your penalty kill. Baertschi is a top 6 forward, he was on pace for a career year before his concussion and he's still on a 50 point pace. Goldobin could also help out with scoring. Winnipeg was looking for more scoring and I think this helps them, not to mention adding gagner and Leivo which would help the bottom 6. Lets not forget that gagner was a 50 point player in Columbus and a 40 point player on a weak canucks team. I think he's low risk high reward.

As a collective whole I think it makes u better. Especially if u go out in FA and make some moves


Gagner scored like 35 points, and didn't even make the team this year. If you can't make the Canucks you can't make the Jets either
 
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