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A Great Team We have to Overpay to get what we want

Created by: JJstings315
Initial Creation Date: Mar 2, 2019
Published: Mar 2 at 3:40 pm
Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Now Technically I am Over cap, but the NHL has hinted that the cap is going up, which is awesome. And then you have alot of trashy players that you dont need to resign that will leave with money in your pocket. I have also Calculated that 6827000 will be available from pending free agents in our farm and players. RESIGN EVERBODY WHO IS A FREE AGENT OR A RFA ON THE TEAM I'VE CREATED
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Dzingel, Ryan5$4,000,000
Zuccarello, Matts3$5,500,000
Kempe, Mario1$750,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Faulk, Justin
CAR
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
WPG
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Zucker, Jason
MIN
  1. Maksimov, Kirill
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2021 7th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
NJD
  1. Russell, Kris
Buyouts
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Brandon Manning: $1,225,000 ($2,250,000)
  • Al Montoya: $37,500 ($1,062,500)
  • Alex Petrovic: $925,000 ($1,950,000)
  • Tobias Rieder: $975,000 ($2,000,000)
  • Kyle Brodziak: $125,000 ($1,150,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2020
EDM
EDM
BOS
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,000,000$88,840,749$0$850,000-$6,840,749
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Dzingel, Ryan
$4,000,000
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 7
Zuccarello, Matts
$5,500,000
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$675,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Gagner, Sam
$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Kempe, Mario
$750,000
EDM
Cave, Colby
$675,000
C
RFA - 2
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 5
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$2,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
EDM
Sekera, Andrej
$5,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
CAR
Faulk, Justin
$4,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Stolarz, Anthony
$761,250
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
EDM
Persson, Joel
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Gravel, Kevin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar 2 at 3:42
#1
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 1,838
Likes: 492
I don't think any of those get accepted. Some are just insulting.
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Mar 2 at 3:43
#2
MisstheWhalers
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 5,542
Likes: 1,724
Not one of these trades would ever happen, you have to give up something of value for Ehlers or Zucker and you'd have to give up way more for anyone to take Lucic.
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Mar 2 at 3:53
#3
GreggoryMcKeggory
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 686
Likes: 123
Zucc signing in Edmonton hahahhahahahaha
Mar 2 at 4:13
#4
Burgers and Hockey
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 8,134
Likes: 3,428
"We have to overpay to get what we want"

Dude, all of these are bad underpayments.
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Mar 2 at 4:36
#5
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 7,777
Likes: 2,524
Lol, you think you these are overpayments? They are ripoffs. Jesus. shakes head
Mar 2 at 4:44
#6
Big John T
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 468
Likes: 84
You're stuck with Lucic barring a minor miracle where he wants to leave and join the very team that wants him at his full $6 million cap hit

4 more years, and then the Oilers can start fresh with a 27 year old McDavid hoping to win his first playoff game and start growing again

Optimistically:
$6 million with a cap increase of $3 million per year (the increases have been steady even though revenues have been lagging and the escrow clawbacks climbing)
2019: 6 / 82.5 = 7.27%
2020: 6/85.5 = 7.02%
2021: 6/88.5 = 6.78% *8 team trade list
2022-2023: 6/91.5 = 6.56% **10 team trade list

Those final 2 years will have the Oilers paying purely to dump his cap hit.
Any forward earning more than 5% of the cap must be playing in the top 6 and special teams to deserve it.
Lucic's decline will accelerate given his age + weight + the reffing is allowing a faster game.


Bide your time, encourage him to be a good teammate that looks out for the younger kids.
Bank a bunch of prospects. If you're lucky, Lucic will agree to a trade to a team willing to rent out their cap space for prospects.
If you're really lucky, you can LTIR him for life but there's no advantage doing that before the 2021 season as there are other bad contracts like Russell and there's no buildup of prospects waiting to rush in.

p.s.
This roster is at $88 million for next season. The Oilers are so screwed it would actually make sense to trade McDavid. Imagine if the Penguins were trying to now win their first cup with Crosby -- and he's got a 13 year contract that's not allowed today that softens his cap hit.

Toronto would have in the past entertained McDavid for Matthews straight up, and the Oilers could have flipped Matthews to Arizona for a truckload of picks and prospects.
McDavid may be worth his money but it's a short list of teams that have the cap room and flexibility with NTCs to take him on today.

I'd phone Joe Sakic in Colorado if they win the draft lottery with Ottawa's pick. Especially if there's a lockout coming, McDavid and Draisatl get paid no matter what, and the Oilers are already having trouble renewing seasons tickets with an expensive brand new stadium during an oil slump.
Jack Hughes + Tyson Jost + Nicolas Meloche + 3x COL 1st = 6 first round picks, 21 and under today = at least 4 NHLers hitting their prime when Lucic and Russell leave

That's just McDavid, you could dump Draisatl in NJ or NYI. Or you can hold on for 4 years and have a team that's not as good as if you had been bold
Mar 2 at 5:37
#7
Cale 4 Calder
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 2,587
Likes: 1,067
1) these trades are all underpayments

2) you are already over the cap by a lot and you still need to consider that koskinen is getting a 2M raise next year

3) you couldve just chose 19-20 instead of 18-19
Mar 2 at 5:42
#8
Cale 4 Calder
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 2,587
Likes: 1,067
Quoting: tatatavares
You're stuck with Lucic barring a minor miracle where he wants to leave and join the very team that wants him at his full $6 million cap hit

4 more years, and then the Oilers can start fresh with a 27 year old McDavid hoping to win his first playoff game and start growing again

Optimistically:
$6 million with a cap increase of $3 million per year (the increases have been steady even though revenues have been lagging and the escrow clawbacks climbing)
2019: 6 / 82.5 = 7.27%
2020: 6/85.5 = 7.02%
2021: 6/88.5 = 6.78% *8 team trade list
2022-2023: 6/91.5 = 6.56% **10 team trade list

Those final 2 years will have the Oilers paying purely to dump his cap hit.
Any forward earning more than 5% of the cap must be playing in the top 6 and special teams to deserve it.
Lucic's decline will accelerate given his age + weight + the reffing is allowing a faster game.


Bide your time, encourage him to be a good teammate that looks out for the younger kids.
Bank a bunch of prospects. If you're lucky, Lucic will agree to a trade to a team willing to rent out their cap space for prospects.
If you're really lucky, you can LTIR him for life but there's no advantage doing that before the 2021 season as there are other bad contracts like Russell and there's no buildup of prospects waiting to rush in.

p.s.
This roster is at $88 million for next season. The Oilers are so screwed it would actually make sense to trade McDavid. Imagine if the Penguins were trying to now win their first cup with Crosby -- and he's got a 13 year contract that's not allowed today that softens his cap hit.

Toronto would have in the past entertained McDavid for Matthews straight up, and the Oilers could have flipped Matthews to Arizona for a truckload of picks and prospects.
McDavid may be worth his money but it's a short list of teams that have the cap room and flexibility with NTCs to take him on today.

I'd phone Joe Sakic in Colorado if they win the draft lottery with Ottawa's pick. Especially if there's a lockout coming, McDavid and Draisatl get paid no matter what, and the Oilers are already having trouble renewing seasons tickets with an expensive brand new stadium during an oil slump.
Jack Hughes + Tyson Jost + Nicolas Meloche + 3x COL 1st = 6 first round picks, 21 and under today = at least 4 NHLers hitting their prime when Lucic and Russell leave

That's just McDavid, you could dump Draisatl in NJ or NYI. Or you can hold on for 4 years and have a team that's not as good as if you had been bold


If the Avs get Hughes I would not trade him in a package for McDavid. Hughes for 3 years on an ELC is too valuable for a team who would be looking to open their cup contending window. McDavid's cap hit would limit any other major additions also
 
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